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Vinny says, "Dont cry in our cup".........


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I agree with the Pratt call being pathetic. I stated so in the Kerry Fraser thread.

But the Flames lost the series in the 'bunker' in Toronto, not on the ice.

I never noticed the Gelinas goal at the time, nor did anyone I was watching it with. But there are paid off-ice officals whose only job is to review plays like that and inform the referees. They missed it, play went on and only after ABC showed the goal did the NHL come up with the bull shit about it being inconclusive. Disgraceful.

I don't believe in any conspiracy some Flames fan have brought up. All I have seen is incompetence.

Tell me you don't love the replay in the NFL to get the calls right. There's NOTHING worse in sports than the injustice of a bull shit call giving a team a bull shit win.
 

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what is that blue thing in the original posted picture? it looks like some wierd fantasy animal from a computer animated movie. . .look at the left of it. looks like he has a long slit eye like a lizard, a mouth and like some porcupine hair or something.
 

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I hate all the instant replay crap. The game is played by humans and should be refereed by humans. Sport was just fine before all the instant replay gadgets. The NFL has become a hold your breath league every time a semi-big play is made. A nine yar gain for a first down, and you have to wait to see if it might get reviewed. Anyway the point of all of this imo is The Flames had all of game 7 to rectify any percieved slight by the NHL or any refs, and they failed to do so. The call on Ference (all 38 seconds of it) did not hand the cup to anyone. The Lightning scored two legit goals and they stood up. Period.


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you know after looking at fishes photo and the ones wil posted of the 2004 wsop i have come to the following conclusions:

1. you must have facial hair to win it all in the NHL

2. you must wear really stupid looking sunglasses like moneymakers or this years winner. (they are bizzare period, and not just for a poker player)

lastly i would like to add that the people in that photo will probably make a trip to mass and it wont be for friendlys or brighams if you know what i mean boys
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> The problem with your theory

is, the goaltender's leg is clearly flush with the ice surface and the puck is clearly flush with the bottom of his leg, ergo, the puck is touching the ice surface, not "several inches" above it. The angle of the goalie's leg suggests strongly that it's flush, not only because it appears to angle downward from his knee, meaning the skate end is on the ice surface, but if you look at a wider angle photo here, you will see that he's on his knee with his weight supported on his right leg. This was a goal, plain and simple. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I hate to say it but even your explanation proves it...INCONCLUSIVIE...yes.....MAYBE...it was a goal...but...MAYBE not..

EGD entertain me on this...the pics you have in the thread above...pretend the camera lens is your eyeball & that is you looking at the net...not a Camera...

Now Take 5 Steps to the LEFT....

That is the Angle we would need to know for sure....May be blocked by the Post though...very hard to tell...even with Cameras...

I wanted Calgary Badly & the OFFICIATING was terrible & all sports FANS know there is an asterix next to the DALLAS STARS Stanley CUP...But in this case...Despite the Bad Officiating all in all...

There is no ASTERIX...

Congrats to the BOLTS...Congrats to the FLAMES...
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> The problem with your theory <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Skyweasel,

Not a theory really, but an explanation from someone who is objectively looking at the situation to those who are either too emotional vested or inexperienced to understand camera angles depth of field, focal length, etc. I work in video production and started my career in sports TV as a cameraman for such events. I can't tell you how many times things like this came up. It takes a further understanding from the simple "I know what I see with my own two eyes" approach. Again, you are attempting to use a two dimensional picture to prove a three dimensional point. The angle of the shot means EVERY thing in determining the relationship of the items to each other. Just because items "clearly" touch in a picture doesn't mean they were actually touching at the time. I can show you a picture of a friend who appears to be leaning against a miniature of the Washington monument. Only it's the real monument that's a quarter mile away but we lined the angle up to make it appear they're touching (an extreme example but the same principle). Another example are action film directors who count on deceptive angles in fight sequences in order to make phantom punch after phantom punch appear to "clearly" connect.

Knowing the (true) facts, there is very little that's clear in the shot you provide or the one that starts the thread (they're different). Although I agree his leg appears to be flush with the ice it's not clear where the puck is from THAT angle.

Again this is not a "goal, no goal" debate, not for me anyway. It's a "goal, inconclusive" debate. It may have been a goal, in which case it's a terrible sports injustice that Calgary doesn't have the Cup and it would have been great to have a angle to prove it - because this one doesn't.


I like your ergo train of thought, reminds me of the old joke:
God is love,
Love is blind,
Ray Charles is blind,
ergo...
 

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