Conan...This is the main reason why I don't go tout. Picking games will no longer be fun for me. I personally don't need the added stress of having an off week of hitting say 40% of my games and having customers on my back demanding their money back. This is where the job loses all it's glamour.
We all have to find our own comfort zone. GoSooners and I discussed this to some extent recently and it's ironic that this situation is coming up like it is now. I don't know Randizzle because there are only a select few posters who's threads I look into during the regular season. Like I've said before, I haven't ever seen him in here during the offseason which is the only time I like to spend here as I have obligations elsewhere the rest of the year. I, too, wish Randizzle luck in wherever his endeavors lead him.
I've had several opportunites to tout just like GS and Conan stated. That's not my own personal comfort zone. I do this because I enjoy the sport of college football and I enjoy gambling. It is a recreation to me and that is where I like to keep it. I look at it the same way I look at my golf game -- my intentions are to beat the course everytime I go out. Every week, I try hard to handicap the games and beat the book. My goal is to win money and enjoy myself while doing it. Period.
I've been on a lot of forums through the years and see the same shit repeating itself constantly. There are posters who have a good year or two and get noticed and go tout like Randizzle. There are posters who come on and act like touts through the entire season (these guys are nothing but irritants.) There are posters who post for no other purpose except to be noticed. There are posters who post and are actually wanting to get better at handicapping. There are posters who post who are genuinely trying to win money and help others to do the same along the way. There are assholes, jerks, internet bullies, and dumbshits aplenty. There are tons of viewers and some posters who are just looking for the "hot" poster so they can tail them. These forums never change.
I have my own niche and comfort zone. I have my own style of handicapping and it may be the same or it may be different than someone else. That's OK because I usually win money by the end of the season with my handicapping and others win money with their handicapping systems. No one system or form of handicapping is the BEST, it all comes down to consistency. I like posting on different forums and I have certain posters I trust and converse with more than others. I've noticed that Pags is lot like me in doing this as well. I have my own site that I own and that is where I post my plays during the regular season. I don't like dealing with a lot of knuckleheads during the season and some forums are loaded with them. I like having my own environment that I can control and keep out the posters that don't seem to do anything but cause trouble and try to grab attention for themselves.
I have a lot of posters and viewers that tail me through a season. This use to bother me because I can't win every week. Whenever I use to have a losing week, I would feel bad because I knew others had a losing week because they tailed me. I have got over this through the years. I don't encourage anyone to tail me, if they do it, they do it because it's their decision to do so. I feel good about the fact that they are tailing me because they want to and it's free for them to do so. If they were paying for my plays and I lost, I'd feel like shit. I don't want that on my conscience.
Everyone loses. I have more winning seasons than I do losing seasons. But, it would be damned dishonest of me to tell anyone that I will make them a winner. Some seasons that may not happen. Last season was a great season for me and I won over 100 units which is my goal every season. The season before last in 2007, I was a loser (and I wasn't the only one from what I saw.) Randizzle did well from what I understand last season, but he isn't going to win every year and he will have to deal with unhappy customers whenever that happens. He has to experience that for himself.
Just one last note I'd like to pass along -- don't ever bet more than you can afford to lose. This IS a recreational hobby. If you try to make it anymore than that, you'll be miserable and broke. Keep it fun, guys.
I've had several opportunites to tout just like GS and Conan stated. That's not my own personal comfort zone. I do this because I enjoy the sport of college football and I enjoy gambling. It is a recreation to me and that is where I like to keep it. I look at it the same way I look at my golf game -- my intentions are to beat the course everytime I go out. Every week, I try hard to handicap the games and beat the book. My goal is to win money and enjoy myself while doing it. Period.
I've been on a lot of forums through the years and see the same shit repeating itself constantly. There are posters who have a good year or two and get noticed and go tout like Randizzle. There are posters who come on and act like touts through the entire season (these guys are nothing but irritants.) There are posters who post for no other purpose except to be noticed. There are posters who post and are actually wanting to get better at handicapping. There are posters who post who are genuinely trying to win money and help others to do the same along the way. There are assholes, jerks, internet bullies, and dumbshits aplenty. There are tons of viewers and some posters who are just looking for the "hot" poster so they can tail them. These forums never change.
I have my own niche and comfort zone. I have my own style of handicapping and it may be the same or it may be different than someone else. That's OK because I usually win money by the end of the season with my handicapping and others win money with their handicapping systems. No one system or form of handicapping is the BEST, it all comes down to consistency. I like posting on different forums and I have certain posters I trust and converse with more than others. I've noticed that Pags is lot like me in doing this as well. I have my own site that I own and that is where I post my plays during the regular season. I don't like dealing with a lot of knuckleheads during the season and some forums are loaded with them. I like having my own environment that I can control and keep out the posters that don't seem to do anything but cause trouble and try to grab attention for themselves.
I have a lot of posters and viewers that tail me through a season. This use to bother me because I can't win every week. Whenever I use to have a losing week, I would feel bad because I knew others had a losing week because they tailed me. I have got over this through the years. I don't encourage anyone to tail me, if they do it, they do it because it's their decision to do so. I feel good about the fact that they are tailing me because they want to and it's free for them to do so. If they were paying for my plays and I lost, I'd feel like shit. I don't want that on my conscience.
Everyone loses. I have more winning seasons than I do losing seasons. But, it would be damned dishonest of me to tell anyone that I will make them a winner. Some seasons that may not happen. Last season was a great season for me and I won over 100 units which is my goal every season. The season before last in 2007, I was a loser (and I wasn't the only one from what I saw.) Randizzle did well from what I understand last season, but he isn't going to win every year and he will have to deal with unhappy customers whenever that happens. He has to experience that for himself.
Just one last note I'd like to pass along -- don't ever bet more than you can afford to lose. This IS a recreational hobby. If you try to make it anymore than that, you'll be miserable and broke. Keep it fun, guys.
Randiz have been following you and if you have to sell your picks then thats the way it is. I understand that it can help pay for your medical school. A lot of people here like the FREE picks and as soon as they hear someone is selling them, they get all bent.
SO many people buy plays from all these crappy handicappers. Why not spend the money on someone who can at least give you winners???
SO many people buy plays from all these crappy handicappers. Why not spend the money on someone who can at least give you winners???
I have read all of these posts, and the obvious seems to be missed here. First, this guy you are talking about NEVER wagered any big money on any games. If he did, he would not be in the financial bind that he is in now, unless he has a habit (and we all know what "habit" I speak of). I have read his explination of why he is going tout. Just another college kid who thinks he has it all figured out. He is going to get his tail kicked this year. For those of you that do not know, you just do not decide to "go tout". You have to pay your dues, and those dues include paying off monitoring services (by purchasing advertising space from them), setting up a 900 line, or an 800 line and accepting Credit Cards (neither of wich is cheap), hiring employees to work for you if you opt for a "live" service instead of a 900 line, plus all the other expenses that your local and state goernments require for setting up any business. You also have 800 other touts, ranging from the unknowns, to the small guys who have to advertise in other touts magazines, to the big name touts who have seen better days, to the current big names, like Lawrence and the Steele organization, that simply swallow up the smaller touts because the smaller touts can not compete with them.
I am sure that the old timers in here can remember Jim Feist, Waye Allyn Root, Jim Hurley, and others. Where are they now? Feist is the biggest example of how tough the tout business can be, going from the top tout to oblivion in just a few short years. Feist can now be found working for people like Mark Lawrence and Don Best. Root is running for President (I kid you not). Hurley is still struggling along, but is not getting any help from his family (which includes the owners of the ATS service). One year wonders are the type of people that put lots of money into professional gamblers pockets. The worst thing you can do is have a huge winning year, because you think it is so easy to do again. It doesn't work that way, as son many in here have correctly pointed out. I do not think he lasts the season.
One other thing. What is this caca about a broken computer before the bowl season? When I was working for law enforcement, I came upon a 1 vehicle accident. A car was wrapped around a tree. The driver was very drunk. When I asked him what happened, he told me: "Well ossifer, this tree jumped right in front of my car and bit it". That is what this mysterious computer break down sound like to me.
I am sure that the old timers in here can remember Jim Feist, Waye Allyn Root, Jim Hurley, and others. Where are they now? Feist is the biggest example of how tough the tout business can be, going from the top tout to oblivion in just a few short years. Feist can now be found working for people like Mark Lawrence and Don Best. Root is running for President (I kid you not). Hurley is still struggling along, but is not getting any help from his family (which includes the owners of the ATS service). One year wonders are the type of people that put lots of money into professional gamblers pockets. The worst thing you can do is have a huge winning year, because you think it is so easy to do again. It doesn't work that way, as son many in here have correctly pointed out. I do not think he lasts the season.
One other thing. What is this caca about a broken computer before the bowl season? When I was working for law enforcement, I came upon a 1 vehicle accident. A car was wrapped around a tree. The driver was very drunk. When I asked him what happened, he told me: "Well ossifer, this tree jumped right in front of my car and bit it". That is what this mysterious computer break down sound like to me.
Sweet website dude...I'll hand it to you...you win like you won last year and you deserve your share of the pie....I hope like hell you win like that (or close to it) this year....or you might be ^<<^
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Ok....now I just need 498 other guys to chip in a $1 a piece and we can buy your CFB plays!!!!!!!!!!!
<<would love to play your picks dizzle, but simply putting it. I don't have that kind of cash to even buy the service. You may be smarter than me, but I would do something like weekend packages. Because I just don't see alot of people laying that much cash down at the beginning of the season. You should advertise at Forbes.com
I'd like to split the picks with some people - I don't have that kind of cash either. Email me: annakin12@yahoo.com
Yeah he had a great year in college football last year. Then about 2-3 weeks before bowl season started he wrote a huge long sob story about how he "broke" his computer and might not be able to post hhis plays for bowl games unless he got a new computer. Never really asked for money for it but did tell everyone how he was a broke college kid who couldnt afford a new one. Well long story short I guess he got some people here to pay for his new computer so he could post during bowl season. That is when karma caught up with him. He got destroyed in the bowl season. Dont know the exact record but it was bad.
If anyone does purchase the plays just get some kind of confirmation that you will be able to get all his plays and that some freak accident doesnt occur to his new computer.
