I think Alabama has done great this year. I have them rated #10 in my poll, which is much higher than i thought they would be at the beginning of the year. Still, i don't think their body of work deserves to have them #1 in the nation. I think they could be underdogs at LSU next week. That would be strange. The #1 team, at 9-0, as an underdog to a two loss team.
True, but struggling against Tulane, UK, and Ole Miss at home does not help you in my poll. Also, their signature wins over Clemson, Tennessee and UGA, don't look all that special now. They have played to a maximum given their talent level. Do they deserve to be #1 based on the polling system, yes they do. Are they the best team in the country? No, they aren't, and that's all i care about.
really your one of those alabama fans. The ones that think they have won 12 national championships. Nobody but tide fanatics believes this. If your claiming 12 than as a Michigan fan I'm claiming 15 because that how many times at least 1 bullshit organization named them champs. Here's an interesting article I came across.
12 National Championships? … The Real Story
I just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions about Alabama’s claim to 12 national championships based on fact rather than bias. Credit is given where credit is due.
To clear up confusion, the word retroactive means they went back in time to award the championship.
‘TWELVE’ national championships is fraudulent, nothing but pure bunk ginned up by the SID Department. Here’s a rundown:
1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.
The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 - 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 - Current.
1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!
1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!
1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!
1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation.
20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!
1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.
1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course.
1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.
You can see why people ridicule Bama fans when they talk about 12 NCs. The early ones were awarded by individuals years after the games were played. These weren’t consensus polls but NCs awarded by people that had their own formula for determining champions. Some NCs were given before bowl games that Bama lost. Using Alabama logic, Auburn could claim four national championships. But when Bammers brag they like to say they have twelve and Auburn has one. How silly. The NCAA recognizes 6 NCs for Bama and there are only two NCs that Bama has unanimously. You can’t find an Auburn site claiming four national championships but there are plenty Bama sites claiming twelve. <IFRAME style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; BACKGROUND: #fff; FLOAT: right; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-TOP: 4px" src="http://digg.com/api/diggthis.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.digg.com%2Ffootball%2FAlabama_s_12_National_Championships_Debunked" frameBorder=0 width=55 scrolling=no height=82></IFRAME>
Debunking the Alabama National Championship myths.
Bama…legends in their own minds!
here is basically the same article just from a different site
you are correct. in 1964 and 1973 they lost their bowl games and still claim national titles. Hell in 1973 they lost the bowl game to notre dame and the coaches poll gave alabama the NC because it awarded it before the bowls. Every other poll gave it to notre dame.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/70154-alabamas-12-mythical-national-championships
here's the thing its hard to say. Because schools, not the NCAA claim national titles. So most schools probably claim more than they should. I'm a michigan man so if you look at the Michigan website they claim 11. However, I've seen it reconized as few as 7.
Notre Dame and Oklahoma are the only schools to claim fewer than what is generally attributed to them.
Saben is the man and Bama's defense will keep them in every game.
They,like most teams play to the level of their opposition.
Not yesterday though they remained focused to task at hand and didn't look towards next weeks game.
We saw a lot of teams still passing in the fourth quarter yesterday with commanding leads,which btw bugs the shit out of me as the NCAA has teams doing this just for rankings and teams like Wa. and Wa. St. are all ready feeling like bags of dog shit.
I know fuck em if they can't field a competitive team but if your kid was on a team that bad you'd feel some contempt towards.
They,like most teams play to the level of their opposition.
Not yesterday though they remained focused to task at hand and didn't look towards next weeks game.
We saw a lot of teams still passing in the fourth quarter yesterday with commanding leads,which btw bugs the shit out of me as the NCAA has teams doing this just for rankings and teams like Wa. and Wa. St. are all ready feeling like bags of dog shit.
I know fuck em if they can't field a competitive team but if your kid was on a team that bad you'd feel some contempt towards.
you can find anything off internet LOL....this guy who created that article hates bama. this is a very known article. ALABAMA HAS 12! national championships. you cant take that away. thats just the way did things back then and you have to respect that. what about all those winning seasons that worked against BAMA with that same formula didnt mention that did you bud...ALabama has at least had 8 seasons that were just as good or better than the national champs that year. before our current system. we dont bitch about those. they even went undefeated in 1966 with a young bear bryant and they didnt even award them title. this is still talked about today on ESPN! so according your logic. we shouldnt count AP nor Coaches polls in past! correct? because our Current system is BCS system. so according to your logic since we didnt have computers back then. everyones championships are erased LOL....same logic. before AP and Coaches. they had something else . and have to respect that. someone had to win championships. and if you cant respect how they awarded championships before 1978. then you cant respect or honor any teams championships. NO TEAMS before 1978. because they had to 'won' their champs by same standards. youre saying doesnt count for alabama. see what im saying? hope so? so either according to your logic we have more than 12! or either NO ONE has won true national championship before 1978! i think many people on this board would disagree with that....
also dude. CORRECTION. ncaa cant give any football team championship credit before it was created. the AP poll was created sometime after 1950. so ANY school before AP they wont give credit to. that makes. doesnt mean no one was college football champ before AP. just like it doesnt mean no one was a champ before BCS lol. same principle. so alabama has won 6 AP championships. this is fact. the other 6 were before AP was created. and/or it was apart of the system back then.
