So one of your moderators tries to pull a scam with NO money involved and I'm supposed to believe that the post-up contests wouldn't have the POTENTIAL of being scammed in a similar manner??? You know what people on these sports forums would do for a few extra bucks don't you?????
And you can save your righteous indignation and bold text and flaming but I WASN'T THE ONE WHO TRIED TO SCAM THE READERS OF THE RX!!!!! Your big talk is nothing but that... TALK and BS. The facts are out there on the table and all the big bad bold text in the world won't change the FACTS.
And as far as your bending out of shape over name calling... don't be such a hypocrite. It's not the name calling but the TRUTH that bothers you. Live in denial all you want but this forum has already been exposed so many times already as a scammers' haven so I don't want to hear this crap from a paid ass-kisser like you.
You want to ban me? Go right ahead. I don't have to look in the mirror and see a scammer or scammer-enabler staring back at me. I can sleep at night knowing that I have carried myself in an honorable and honest manner. Can you say the same?
What I am "trying to gain" is an industry where the first thing people don't think is "how can I pull a scam". Where the people we TRUST (there's that T-word again) will conduct themselves in an honorable manner. This is an industry BUILT ON TRUST and when this trust is violated then it affects everyone involved in it. And when a forum violates the trust of its readers then everything that is posted on that forum can be assumed to be suspect, which hurts those honest posters and moderators through guilt by association.
I guess in the sports gambling racket that is too much to ask though.
Everytime I take some time off I miss all the real good drama. Fishing was great, nailed a 6lb 10oz Black Bass, digital scale. But from the nirvana, to the is it safe root canal I had yesterday, swings that really make you appreciate the boring moments. This may hurt, can't numb the nerve since it's inside the tooth, just have to file it out. 3 1/2 hours in the chair. Is it safe?
J-man, this is a bad one. Why? Well it does attack the core of credibility of the records. Has this happened before? Have some slid by without being caught? I must admit the excuse is like carrying a barbell in a wet paper bag, it just does not work. Worse, if it was a break even day, no problem, a winning day, everyone laughs, but when you screw up a disaster day, it could not look worse.
Would you like to be heard in FROG's court of offshore disputes? Do your balls sweat profusely before you lie? The lieometer is all knowing, all seeing. Do you have representation? Boberto may be available. Some people are trying to blow this off, like it ain't nuthin. But it is something. And sadly for you it was a collosal fuck up. It puts everything in question, from the tracker, records, even contest posts. I am not going to sit here and judge you, my court is not in session. And in no way would I accuse you without hearing the case. However, the results are not really in doubt, whether intentionally done or not. You planted a seed of doubt, and not on an innocent mistake, adding a record wrong, a unit off. You deleted entire day of disaster.
Now the what if's. What if it was a regular poster instead of yourself. Collusion to falsify records. What if it was a contest? What if you did it do Bucsfan record? All of the mods are sticking it to the regular forum members. There are certain mistakes you should not and cannot make. What were you thinking? An employee of a business, cannot make a mistake that appears to benefit themselves. When only you have the power to make that kind of mistake. There is way more to this than just an oops.
Best Wishes...oF:howdy:
J-man, this is a bad one. Why? Well it does attack the core of credibility of the records. Has this happened before? Have some slid by without being caught? I must admit the excuse is like carrying a barbell in a wet paper bag, it just does not work. Worse, if it was a break even day, no problem, a winning day, everyone laughs, but when you screw up a disaster day, it could not look worse.
Would you like to be heard in FROG's court of offshore disputes? Do your balls sweat profusely before you lie? The lieometer is all knowing, all seeing. Do you have representation? Boberto may be available. Some people are trying to blow this off, like it ain't nuthin. But it is something. And sadly for you it was a collosal fuck up. It puts everything in question, from the tracker, records, even contest posts. I am not going to sit here and judge you, my court is not in session. And in no way would I accuse you without hearing the case. However, the results are not really in doubt, whether intentionally done or not. You planted a seed of doubt, and not on an innocent mistake, adding a record wrong, a unit off. You deleted entire day of disaster.
Now the what if's. What if it was a regular poster instead of yourself. Collusion to falsify records. What if it was a contest? What if you did it do Bucsfan record? All of the mods are sticking it to the regular forum members. There are certain mistakes you should not and cannot make. What were you thinking? An employee of a business, cannot make a mistake that appears to benefit themselves. When only you have the power to make that kind of mistake. There is way more to this than just an oops.
Best Wishes...oF:howdy:
I reluctantly have to agree with O Frog on this one.
It's unfortunate that posters feel that thier win / loss record in sports betting somehow equates to their overall popularity and self worth in this forum.
Judge a person by the overall content of their character, not by whether or not they portray themselves as an expert and a winner in sports betting.
In the overall picture of sports betting you are damn good if can can crack 55% ATS.
Big fuggin deal huh ... ?
I think not.
-K1
It's unfortunate that posters feel that thier win / loss record in sports betting somehow equates to their overall popularity and self worth in this forum.
Judge a person by the overall content of their character, not by whether or not they portray themselves as an expert and a winner in sports betting.
In the overall picture of sports betting you are damn good if can can crack 55% ATS.
Big fuggin deal huh ... ?
I think not.
-K1
fellows,its all about priorities,to some folks honesty is everything & to some $ can motivate to do things they wouldnt dream of.on a site this size,theres the potential for mucho denero to be gotten from a bunch of degenerates like us if we believe you can bring home the bacon.just read these posts,we see what we need to see.
Well, I still have no agenda. And I agree being a moderator is a thankless time consuming job. J-man is a popular poster/moderator here. However, that being said, the RX took a hit here, and if I was running the show, I would suspend if not take away Journeyman's moderator duties. Not from a punitive standpoint, not to punish him, but to convey a message, this type of mistake will not be tolerated, whether innocent or not. I am prepared for the you suck you A-hole FROG posts. But bear in mind I have never had anything against J-man, never fought with him here, and have stood by mods, Rob Funk, Fish, when others have targeted them. This is a core issue, again, without presumption of guilt, an issue that should be dealt with to protect the RX. Obviously it puts the RX in a pickle. But if this was any other business, and the consequences of the actions resulted in a loss of core credibility, there would be damage control implemented. You cannot gloss over it, or play ostrich. Business is business.
Best Wishes...OF:howdy:
I can just picture The SHRINK laughing his ass off, and the General saying, not on my watch.
Best Wishes...OF:howdy:
I can just picture The SHRINK laughing his ass off, and the General saying, not on my watch.
Mistakes, we all make them except for our President! JMan MAY have made a mistake, so what! He is not moving money for me on his picks! Even if he were, the guys I know in the business would tell him to be careful in the future and thanks for the heads up on the 'none-issue'! You guys act like this is some big deal, it is not! This man is a moderator at a gambling site! He is not your stock broker or your accountant! He is alright in my book, all you guys want to do is drag someone down in some kind of Young and the Restless' bulls##t! I do agree though that the Shrink and The General are having a good chuckle because they do not need to warch any afternoon soaps- they can tune in here! Good luck JMan!:toast:OMNIVOROUS FROG said:
trytrytry said:
A Mod deleting his own losing picks in the tracker forum and adding the losers to his record only after it was pointed out by another poster ?
non-issue ?
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A kid working in a convience store accidently gives a customer change for a ten when he gave him a twenty, customer dosen't notice, kids pockets the change knowing the register will still be right.
non-issue ?
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A Casino worker in soft count notices a 100.00 mistake from the cage, pockets the cash.
non-issue ?
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I think J-Man is a good guy blah, blah, blah but you can't ignore the fact that what he did damaged the overall credibility and integrity of the web site in general and the tracker forum in particular.
A big deal ? Not really, but a "non-issue."
I don't think so.
-K1
Why even have the tracker forum? A lot of members are of the opinion it was not an accident. I do not care either way. Honest mistake or tracking manipulation? This is an internal tar baby. I am not personally attacking the offender like others, or dragging ancient skeletons out of a closet to burn the witch. Some would dismiss it, no biggie, just deleted a thread. I do not. This was not just any thread, it was the Tracker Forum, which was created to avoid these circumstances. It puts in doubt the accuracy of the forum, mods ability to manipulate records, and the RX dealing with someone who planted this seed of doubt. My opinion may not be popular, but you get it either way. Some would say who cares, it is just an offshore betting site. Well, one of the duties of the site, provided by the site, is accurate record keeping. At least that is what I interpret. Maybe this is just an entertainment site, with who cares who does what, or bets what. Obviously not as Bucsfan gets called on his record constantly, as Panther and others. It does matter. If there is one thing that does matter here, that is it, people want accurate records, and the piece of mind knowing they are not subject to manipulation after a bad day.
Best Wishes...OF:howdy:
Best Wishes...OF:howdy:
How about he deleted a 1-6 day, the entire thread and it was omitted from the ytd? Which was stated it was not, but was. Then it gets edited into the ytd, when it is brought up. Can you say cover up? Now the mods are closing ranks, I will not stfu, or hop away, or pretend it did not happen. This one reeks to high heaven, and is close to members vs. mods at this juncture. Maybe we are collectively a bunch of dumb asses who just go along no matter what. I thought the gamesmenship left with The SHRINK, but apparently we are taking it to a new level. It is your reputation on the line, like it or not. You cannot bully the membership into shutting the fuck up at a forum.
Best Wishes...OF:howdy:
Best Wishes...OF:howdy:
I guess my question would be how easy is it to delete a post? Is it just one button? Is it a series of things? How or why could this happen by "mistake".
It would see to me that the more "top handicappers" a site has the more hits it would receive thus the more money it would bring in. This is disturbing. What i believe is more disturbing is how every mod is backing the "accident". Not one has said this is a bad thing.
It would see to me that the more "top handicappers" a site has the more hits it would receive thus the more money it would bring in. This is disturbing. What i believe is more disturbing is how every mod is backing the "accident". Not one has said this is a bad thing.
