Hate to tell ya but neteller and PP are not really a preferred method of most sports books nowadays. I wasn't a big fan of using bitcoin initially due to market fluctuations. But I'm very comfortable with it now and just pull my money immediately when I receive a payout. And it can be setup in minutes. I figured if I wanted to keep playing, I was going to have to get on board with the current and most common way of doing transactions. My current local, 5Dimes, and Bovada all prefer it and give me preferred bonuses to use it. Good luck on the other methods.
Not sure how you come up with a " small percentage of bets from the minority of my clients would be a small sacrifice " conclusion ? Do you have some inside knowledge of any outstanding ledger of " small percentage of bets " ?
My guess is you don't have a very good understanding of how betting futures work and the ramifications of a action like this.. Can only speak for myself , but doubt I'm not the only self important person here that hedges futures ..and are now in a vulnerable position..
Give you a hypothetical.... Let's say someone has a Heat or Celtics ticket to win the NBA Championship. But they've already hedged on Lakers or any other team for that matter.. And a decent chance you've done that it in Vegas or another offshore shop.. Or vise versa for that matter.. It puts you in a real bad position and a real bad outcome potentially... Could make other examples for you , maybe this one would be suffice..
Dimes has been in this business a long time and should know the consequences future bettors are put in when future props just get pulled out from underneath you this late in that particular event..at least they should know
So spare me the self importance lecture..
I'm saying that the amount of clients they have in the United States probably pales in comparison to everywhere else (but maybe you have information that is contrary to that?). Then of that smaller percentage, you have your future wagers (which most books I believe get a pretty good take on and also have pretty tight limits on how much can be wagered on them). I really don't think they care if they ruin your hedge or someone else's (hence the self importance comment). I suspect the bigger prize (whatever that might be for 5Dimes) pales in comparison to the amount of money you're talking about. If you don't like the way they are doing business, you are certainly free to not re-up with them when (and if) they start servicing U.S. players again.
It seems to me that you're still the one making guesses.. Who knows how many clients Dimes has in the US.. Either way , its not relevant to my original post..
I watch future action on Dimes and Vegas as much or more than probably anyone on this forum. Been doing it for along time. I see how much the future odds change on alot of these events. , so have to believe alot of us even here in the US have some great wagers placed at Dimes..
You're pribably right when you state that Dimes doesn't care about our future and hedge positions.. Only conclusion I can come up with too. Could also be that Dimes is vulnerable with some of their future positions too..
Again , to cancel at this time all pending future wagers with Political , NBA , NHL , MLB is a joke... And potentially corrupt..and its only 6 weeks when all of these events are finished
It absolutely is relevant. 5Dimes is making a decision based on their current clients and whatever grand prize they are trying to achieve (they are being discreet about that, so yes, your guess is as good as mine as to what that is). They believe any ill will they receive is less than what they will gain (I doubt it has anything to do with vulnerability due to limits put on futures wagers and the juice charged). And I think you're being obtuse if you're insinuating that U.S. customers are even remotely close to the amount of customers the company has in the global picture.
Obtuse...lol..I have no idea what the US customer base is.. You might even be right..but its still not my point. My point is alot of us have taken a hit , my guess quite a few here on this forum , with outstanding futures being cancelled this late into these events.
You're pretty much arguing this just to argue now. Most likely you don't have a horse in this particular issue , or got out lucky . so maybe just stick to something relevant for yourself..For us that got screwed , what's best for 5Dimes doesn't mean shit
Sorry, no. I'm not arguing just to argue. In fact my point is pretty clear. Get over it. You're not the first person to ever lose a futures wager (myself and many other lost some when BetonSports went down in 2006...I moved on). I'm saying you and the rest of the people on this forum are clearly not that important to 5Dimes in the grand scheme of things. Not sure why that seems to be so hard for you to understand. It's business. You're a consumer. So your choice is to take your business elsewhere (right now you don't have a choice, but perhaps in the future if they service U.S. customers again, you will).
I lost big on the BOS fiasco. Had 8 accounts under that umbrella. Bitched about it then , moved on then eventually , bitching about this now. Eventually this will be in rear view mirror. But this is a current situation that some of us are scrambling with. So I will move on from this current situation when I'm ready too.. Not when you to tell me to get over it..
Again , I'm not disputing your claim that I'm not that important to 5 Dimes. That's quite clear here. You're stating the obvious..
What’s clear here is 5 Dimes is not being fair with its customers ! You wouldn’t be able to pull this kind of BS IN ANY Nevada Sportsbook or in Oregon or most probably anywhere in the USA. I had Biden at 12/1 ! Is it fair to just cancel a bet like that ? Of course not ! I hope Biden loses of course BUT at least I have something if he should win ! Right is right and wrong is wrong ! They have the obligation to move these futures to another book or honor them themselves! It’s irrelevant how many US customers they are screwing ! The fact is crystal clear ! They are screwing some of us !
BFL is a clown .
Complete BS on 5Ds part .
I bet they probably don’t have any grand plans in the future.
Anyone speculating that this is an attempt by 5 D to become a legal sports book in the future in the USA is completely clueless .
This is no way to get into the good gracies of the United States government by basically free rolling no telling how many people over futures wagers .
This is complete BS and anyone who agrees with BFL on this subject is clueless
Complete BS on 5Ds part .
I bet they probably don’t have any grand plans in the future.
Anyone speculating that this is an attempt by 5 D to become a legal sports book in the future in the USA is completely clueless .
This is no way to get into the good gracies of the United States government by basically free rolling no telling how many people over futures wagers .
This is complete BS and anyone who agrees with BFL on this subject is clueless
Even if 5D has some plans that we don’t know about , rightfully letting all futures plays finish to conclusion would never prevent them from executing this so called future plan. But canceling them and free rolling no telling how many people certainly will.
If they would have said starting September 20th or whatever date we will no longer accept any futures bets but all pending futures bets will be honored that would have been fine .
Thats what pinnacle did. That’s would the Greek did .
Thats what any other reputable sports book would do .
If they would have said starting September 20th or whatever date we will no longer accept any futures bets but all pending futures bets will be honored that would have been fine .
Thats what pinnacle did. That’s would the Greek did .
Thats what any other reputable sports book would do .
