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Not interested in selling picks, grinding in any way, or convincing others. I want to enjoy the betting experience by mentoring & profiting for my friends.

Please shed some light on the million things. I try hard, but can only think of TWO:

1) My friend reaches the agreed on threshold loss limit and I do not ppal/bitcoin the amount lost due to my picks & Live Bets. This would tarnish my rep as I am plenty visible online + physically being the owner of ManCave Axe Throwing/cigar lounge in Vegas

2) I possibly multiply the initial wager limit a 100 fold as I have been known to do and my friend does not pay my half

Why do you say friends? You don't know them. They could easily crush with your picks and just not pay you, they could pickup a habit with their newfound Mogley wealth and blow the $, they could see their account is flush for the 1st time in their lives and start firing more, they could just stiff you, the site could just stiff them.

Sharing profits is the same thing as selling picks, it's just a different set of transactions. But it is all fungible. Mogley gives XYZ picks, XYZ bets, XYZ kicks back to Mogley.
 

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I have never heard of anyone getting stiffed at bookmaker .

And like the other poster said .

If it happened to me the last thing I would do is not talk about it .

I would give every detail . Maybe even write a book about it .

He even brought it up. That is the whole thing if you don't want to talk about it.Specifics matter because we hear people complain they got stiffed and sometimes it turns out their complaints aren't valid

How much did you start out with?
How much did you end up with and try to take out?
What was the excuse not to pay you?
Maybe he did something like share a computer for more than 1 account and feels that's not a big deal so he considers that getting stiffed even when you aren't suppose to. Something like that maybe

Or was it being limited.

Many things and disputes can happen and sometimes the player is wrong. That is why it is important

Anyway. Mogley has seemed like a good guy and shared many bets and experiences. So, I don't want to harp on the issue. Just weird to me. GL with whatever sports and other related ventures you decide on, Mogley
 

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Why do you say friends? You don't know them. They could easily crush with your picks and just not pay you, they could pickup a habit with their newfound Mogley wealth and blow the $, they could see their account is flush for the 1st time in their lives and start firing more, they could just stiff you, the site could just stiff them.

Sharing profits is the same thing as selling picks, it's just a different set of transactions. But it is all fungible. Mogley gives XYZ picks, XYZ bets, XYZ kicks back to Mogley.


A smart person would look at an opportunity like this:

If Mogley is as good as he says, I can make $1000 per week partnering with him

A less than smart person looks at the same opportunity and says "maybe I can rip him off for $5000, one time."
 

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A smart person would look at an opportunity like this:

If Mogley is as good as he says, I can make $1000 per week partnering with him

A less than smart person looks at the same opportunity and says "maybe I can rip him off for $5000, one time."

Sure, but let's not kid ourselves. Shit happens man, people do dumb/unethical shit. There is a reason not a lot of people in this world put trust in one another when it comes to $ unless legal contracts are drawn up and lawyers/accountants are involved. Mogley is gonna vet the character of every single person that he does this with?

If you think everything I just listed is < 1% to happen then I dunno, rock out with it.

Why risk all those potholes in the road when you could just sell your picks? Seems like it'll make you a similar amount of $ with way less hassle/downside risk.
 
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Sure, but let's not kid ourselves. Shit happens man, people do dumb/unethical shit. There is a reason not a lot of people in this world put trust in one another when it comes to $ unless legal contracts are drawn up and lawyers/accountants are involved. Mogley is gonna vet the character of every single person that he does this with?

If you think everything I just listed is < 1% to happen then I dunno, rock out with it.

Why risk all those potholes in the road when you could just sell your picks? Seems like it'll make you a similar amount of $ with way less hassle/downside risk.

You could probably include the Legal ones as well and make them < 1%
 

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Let’s talk about bookmaker stiffing people .

You know what they say .

big claims require big evidence .

Thats what I want to hear .

Someone just called the biggest advertiser for this forum and the number 1 sports book in all of offshore a stiff shop .

I want details
 

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I have a decent balance at BM. Would also like to hear about them stiffing since I've never heard anything about that before.
 

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Guys it's a risk reward situation for Mogley. Hes already under siege from the books, he can give warnings but details are going to bring more heat. Hes already lost the money so what's he gonna get out of the deal when he brings the heat? Thanks for the warning, Mog.
 

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Why do you say friends? You don't know them. They could easily crush with your picks and just not pay you, they could pickup a habit with their newfound Mogley wealth and blow the $, they could see their account is flush for the 1st time in their lives and start firing more, they could just stiff you, the site could just stiff them.

Sharing profits is the same thing as selling picks, it's just a different set of transactions. But it is all fungible. Mogley gives XYZ picks, XYZ bets, XYZ kicks back to Mogley.

They are certainly my friends and I have no doubt that they would not pay my share. I am selective about who I work with and only do so after I feel very comfortable. I am a pretty perceptive guy as my ability to perceive winning picks & buying points indicates.
I feel blessed to have these friends in my life, even though I haven't met some of them. I hope to some day. Most have an in person lifelong relationship with me. I have been mentoring a handful of players since I started this thread last year. I decided to do this as a full time business and quit placing bets myself entirely when I posted my proposal last week. Since then, several more have come/are coming on board. I have also been receiving profit share already. The agreement is for them to pay when I profit a certain amount or for me to replenish the loss if a certain pre-determined amount is lost.
 

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A smart person would look at an opportunity like this:

If Mogley is as good as he says, I can make $1000 per week partnering with him

A less than smart person looks at the same opportunity and says "maybe I can rip him off for $5000, one time."

That and I firmly believe in the goodness of good people. I negate the idea that anyone is out to intentionally do the wrong thing. Like I have been profiting consistently month after month for two decades, I will do the same for you for the rest of your life at no risk to you.
 

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I will briefly address the bookmaker stiffing soon enough to satisfy forum readers. However, I will most likely get zero assistance in recovery, similar to never receiving assistance when GT Bets stiffed my friend/client for his entire balance of over 10k. I still replenished his loss of the $500 deposit because I had directed him to sign up with GT Bets. All the winning went in vain.
 
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I will briefly address the bookmaker stiffing soon enough to satisfy forum readers. However, I will most likely get zero assistance in recovery, similar to never receiving assistance when GT Bets stiffed my friend/client for his entire balance of over 10k. I still replenished his loss of the $500 deposit because I had directed him to sign up with GT Bets. All the winning went in vain.

Maybe I missed, or maybe I have a few things/Books mixed up. But did you ever file a complaint with SBR ?

Not sure of the Timeframe because I don't remember it coming through The RX, but if it was within the past Year+ it should have been sent there

If not, I would suggest you file one now, https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/
 

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Maybe I missed, or maybe I have a few things/Books mixed up. But did you ever file a complaint with SBR ?

Not sure of the Timeframe because I don't remember it coming through The RX, but if it was within the past Year+ it should have been sent there

If not, I would suggest you file one now, https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/

Yes this was officially filed via SBR perhaps 6 months ago. They simply informed my friend that there was nothing they could to help as mogley's action was not welcome at GT Bets. The funny thing is that when the balance was around 5k, my friend was badgered for one document after another to pretty much prove his blood type, which he did. He even offered to skype video chat with the decision maker, but Brian refused. They could not believe how my client won every single bet, increasing a 500 deposit to beyond 10k. When my client admitted to bets coming from me, Brian stated "well in that case, thats not your money, thats our money because our policy does not allow others to make picks on your account". My client posted about the GT Bets stiff along with the bet history; SBR permanently banned him. I dont know what his user name was - he was not an active poster.
 

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If you have say 10 people take you up on tour offer, wouldn't the books catch on if everyone had the exact same betting pattern?
 

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If you have say 10 people take you up on tour offer, wouldn't the books catch on if everyone had the exact same betting pattern?

Yes......but that's why he wants guys mostly with local books & people in different states & now that several states legalized sports betting, Mogley could actually make himself & others a lot of money for a while. Offshore books all talk to each other, hence the hammer coming down quickly on his pattern of play.
 

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If you have say 10 people take you up on tour offer, wouldn't the books catch on if everyone had the exact same betting pattern?

I will eventually have 20 lifelong clients. I am ensuring the following:

1) never logging in to their account to assist with making a bet or live betting like I have in the past

2) betting be spread out over multiple sports-books

3) client incorporate a well established reputed local
 
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Yes this was officially filed via SBR perhaps 6 months ago. They simply informed my friend that there was nothing they could to help as mogley's action was not welcome at GT Bets. The funny thing is that when the balance was around 5k, my friend was badgered for one document after another to pretty much prove his blood type, which he did. He even offered to skype video chat with the decision maker, but Brian refused. They could not believe how my client won every single bet, increasing a 500 deposit to beyond 10k. When my client admitted to bets coming from me, Brian stated "well in that case, thats not your money, thats our money because our policy does not allow others to make picks on your account". My client posted about the GT Bets stiff along with the bet history; SBR permanently banned him. I dont know what his user name was - he was not an active poster.

ok, what about BM ? did you file about them ?

Thanks
 

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