5 or 6 figure payouts from SportsBetting

[Mowgli]

Yeah i was going to ask this as well ( Bookmaker ) because they just don't stiff, and they really don't kick you to the curb either

I do understand the GT Bets deal because if they booted you and you try to wager on someone else account, that's a no no Everywhere
One Account, and ONLY one account.

I came late on the Wager Web problem and tried to reach out to someone there that I knew well. But by the time I got involved that guy was no longer there.

Having problems with Locals shouldn't be, but in TODAY'S market, Too many " Internet " or " Forum " Locals and not Real Street Locals around.

a Guy is looking for a Local, and he finds that Local through a Internet guy, you might talk to this "New" local by phone, Email or even Worst by Text.
NO, you need to Meet in Person, work out whatever detail's you need to. If you Win or lose, Settle up in Person.

Yeah I know this is the age of the Internet, but if you really want a True Local, this is what you need to do.

But that's the difference between Real Locals and Today's Locals

I could understand you not wanting to move to Las Vegas because of Family and Friends, but If I could do what you do, I'm sure I would get my @ss to Las vegas
every Weekend, at least during Football season.

If Las Vegas is too far, you now have Mississippi, which has a MGM Sportsbook, so you should be able to get down what you want. or at least a nice size wager.

Maybe someone that has been there can tell us how things are panning out in Miss.

But Bottom line on " Local's " Especially ones that might pop up NOW, I wouldn't trust them if they come from this thread/ Forum or anything from the Internet
because all that will be is guys thinking Well he's due to Lose, so let me take a shot....
and that's what happened with your Locals. ( NOT saying that someone here took a shot with you ) * not putting anyone down here at The RX
But Moving forward, i would be careful of anything that comes your way.

As for your Offer, Interesting .... something to think about

I know you did it with NFL, but I would think you need to find a guy with his Own Account, Fund it and have him place the wagers.

You Need to pull a Billy W

True nonbody heard of BM stiffing, but nobody heard about Spiros of www.thegreek.com settling with a player or Pinnacle limiting a player's bets. I suppose you guys don't remember The General who was the first moderator of The RX when I used to converse with The Shrink, who started this website. The General helped me attain a settlement from Spiros to slow pay me 500k.

As far as GT Bests goes, it was One Account, and ONLY one account owned by me. The other account was signed up by my friend, funded by my friend, and disputed by my friend when he did not get paid anything, but the prior deposit that he had lost was conveniently accepted. If you were to put in my plays on your GTBets account after depositing $500 on an agreement to reward me a kickback from profits, would you say it is justified for them to confiscate over 10k worth of winnings because the action was basically mine?

 

[Mowgli]

I don't care how long someone has been winning, that business model sounds like a recipe for disaster(theerodfather level type silliness).

yea its a disaster waiting to happen like one day the sun will burn up the earth. I probably had a losing week here and there during the past decade of betting the NFL, but I do not recall a losing month.

 

[Mowgli]

At your level you're crazy not to live in Vegas. or at least fly out there weekly.

No Desire, I love love love each day of my life in Dallas

 

[TheComputerGroup]

Mogley, it seems like BAS stated, youre in a position like BW......your action is wanted in many places & you need runners to place bets for you at legit casinos in the states. Offshore books have become a thorn to your side. And even locals from what you've stated have stiffed you, that's insane. IMO, either fly to Vegas each weekend or Mississippi, or Jersey, or actually stay in those places for the 4 months of football season cuz the money you win, its worth it......or have runners make bets for you like BW did.

 

[Mowgli]

Just wanted to throw out a big thank you for offering your picks for free this season and last. I am one of those people who follow blindly because I don't know how to handicap, so I follow those who do on this site. I bet small amounts so I would never be able to work with you, but I wanted to say I appreciate that you've offered consistent winning picks for free. I wish you the best in your new endeavor. I hope you occasionally throw a bone out to us every once in a while, and if you don't, you have made people alot of money with what you have done so far, so thanks again.

Appreciate the gratitude my friend

 

[Mowgli]

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Agree, would be Well worth the trip each weekend.
Fly in on Saturday, Fly out on Monday

You wouldn't even have to pay for a Room or anything.

I would sit down with jay kornegay of the Westgate and Jay Rood of MGM and tell them what you're looking for.

I forget what your limits are, but I think they would accommodate you the best they can.

just my 2 cents

I have endured a tumultuous career betting for a living for around 20 years since my senior year in college during which I have been stiffed numerous times for a total of 300k+ ....I now want a convenient & simple life, not the hassle of traveling every weekend to place bets in another city. I would much rather spend the weekends with my aging parents & highly entertaining kids in my direct family. I have never worked a job and have very limited skills / experience outside the sports betting world. So now I want to broaden my horizons by working on my cigar/axe throwing bar. I will use my cash flow to provide more for my family, employees, improve & expand ManCave, versus post up with anyone or anywhere. I have plenty of financial responsibilities and relatively high monthly spending, which I wish to maintain with a peace of mind.

 

[Mowgli]

almost seems too good to be true.. is there a minimum bankroll for the people you'll assist

$1000 which can do plenty

 

[Mowgli]

Maybe Mogley can comment on this as well...I'm interested in knowing what happened, because it seems pretty similar to what he is offering now??

No this is different and will be around forever. It is a technique of profiting daily via arbitrage techniques that I perfected over my betting career. However, as the saying goes, it takes money to make money. The system is absolutely risk free, but requires a minimum of 10k working capital in several of your sportsbook accounts. It is a job versus betting. You will spend an average of an hour a day executing my instructions. I am willing to coach this, but not play myself, as it is a tedious hour of daily work. I much rather make a comfortable year round living by simply betting NFL games 3x a times a week 1/3 of the year.

 

[Mowgli]

it just does not have the feeling of common sense. as good as he is at pickin winners and he has to resort to this?..there are ways other than the internet. .if I knew I could consistently pick winners,the last thing on earth I would do is what he's doin...just does not make a lick of sense to me..nobody gives away money..

I am not giving away any money. I am mentoring lifelong friends to profit consistently with zero risk by vouching to replenish their overall losses...if any.

 

[Mowgli]

Can someone give me the cliffs on what therodfather did? I see this guys name pop up in threads all the time like he is the Bernie Madoff of the RX. I just assumed he was your typical tout scammer, but did he go to another level with some elaborate swindling plot? Seems like the go to guy people mention when talking about a shady character.

@Mogley....Your profit sharing plan sounds so risky and convoluted, any one of us could list a million things that could go wrong w/ something like that. You will too once you really think about it.

Honestly man, just go tout if you're that confident you can deliver winners. Charge a # per month you feel comfortable with during football season, keep betting what you can where you don't have to make 2 bets. 1 being the actual football games and 2 being able to get paid.

Not interested in selling picks, grinding in any way, or convincing others. I want to enjoy the betting experience by mentoring & profiting for my friends.

Please shed some light on the million things. I try hard, but can only think of TWO:

1) My friend reaches the agreed on threshold loss limit and I do not ppal/bitcoin the amount lost due to my picks & Live Bets. This would tarnish my rep as I am plenty visible online + physically being the owner of ManCave Axe Throwing/cigar lounge in Vegas

2) I possibly multiply the initial wager limit a 100 fold as I have been known to do and my friend does not pay my half

 

[Betallsports]

No I mean mfkn scumbag Tony from fkn BM

Interesting, I say this because up until 2 months ago I've never heard of him. But this is the 3rd or 4th time this name has come up.

When I asked someone very close, very tight to BM, at first they were like Tony ? I don't know a Tony, but they had to think about it for a few minutes
and then said yeah, there's a Tony there. Weird...

 

[Mowgli]

Interesting, I say this because up until 2 months ago I've never heard of him. But this is the 3rd or 4th time this name has come up.

When I asked someone very close, very tight to BM, at first they were like Tony ? I don't know a Tony, but they had to think about it for a few minutes
and then said yeah, there's a Tony there. Weird...

Deep down they are nothing but a bunch of lying thieves. Wait till you win much more than they are used to players winning consistently. Then, in the words of NFLTrends, who tried his hardest to help me, even the most solid offshore will find any reason to not pay anything perhaps by saying "Your grandma's ass is too big"

 

[exploited17]

Deep down they are nothing but a bunch of lying thieves. Wait till you win much more than they are used to players winning consistently. Then, in the words of NFLTrends, who tried his hardest to help me, even the most solid offshore will find any reason to not pay anything perhaps by saying "Your grandma's ass is too big"

Why not just be specific and show proof? You have written all this and said virtually nothing. If there is something to expose....expose it. We all want to see

 

[TheComputerGroup]

Deep down they are nothing but a bunch of lying thieves. Wait till you win much more than they are used to players winning consistently. Then, in the words of NFLTrends, who tried his hardest to help me, even the most solid offshore will find any reason to not pay anything perhaps by saying "Your grandma's ass is too big"

One thing about any offshore book is they can stiff anyone & not care about bad publicity......where legal casinos here in the states will pay you but will eventually can cut you off, but at least you receive your money.

 

[Mowgli]

Why not just be specific and show proof? You have written all this and said virtually nothing. If there is something to expose....expose it. We all want to see

Coz I have already wasted enough words time & effort. Writing further about it is additional loss. Would you like to continue reminding yourself of a dearly loved one's demise? I have kissed that dough goodbye. Me mentioning Tony's name is enough to cast doubt on BM shady practices per BAS post. I have moved on and am past the robbery of my money and onto the new business I have established and already helping RX friends profit.

I will never send betting money to any place or anyone for any reason, unless a person loses as a result of my betting advice after initiating a partnership agreement with me.

 

[Betallsports]

True nonbody heard of BM stiffing, but nobody heard about Spiros of www.thegreek.com settling with a player or Pinnacle limiting a player's bets. I suppose you guys don't remember The General who was the first moderator of The RX when I used to converse with The Shrink, who started this website. The General helped me attain a settlement from Spiros to slow pay me 500k.

As far as GT Bests goes, it was One Account, and ONLY one account owned by me. The other account was signed up by my friend, funded by my friend, and disputed by my friend when he did not get paid anything, but the prior deposit that he had lost was conveniently accepted. If you were to put in my plays on your GTBets account after depositing $500 on an agreement to reward me a kickback from profits, would you say it is justified for them to confiscate over 10k worth of winnings because the action was basically mine?

So all of my life in the Offshore business has always been on the Credit side of Books, over time I got to learn about Post up and I feel that your normal Post up shop are put in place for that average everyday player. What they are really looking for is that guy thats betting $10 -$200 per game, if winning, winning a $1000 at most on any given week, but of course losing as much as they can.

I have found it interesting over the past 10 years that I have worked here that I have helped about 6-7 players that had low to high 6 Figures amounts get paid
from these Post up shops. Because let's face it, the average Forum bettor falls into the above category with $10-$25 per wager at a 50% level

So anyway I'll give an example of a player when I was still in the offshore Credit business.

I'm going to leave out the names of the places for obvious reasons

Back in the day both Credit and post up were owned by the same people. The Credit shop was a very large shop, and the Post up was of a nice size
The Credit shop took all and any kind of action no matter Who you were. But like any smart business, if you were a Sharp, you were limited.
Not talking about going from $10K a game to $500, but maybe from $10k down to $5K or even $3k

This shop would take wagers from All known Sharps, including the chinaman, the Doctor, a part of the CG, Taylor, etc...
these same guys/ groups also bet elsewhere. So even if they had some kind of limit, they could spread it around.
The multiple shops took their action because A) it would help with the opening line, and B) they wanted to know what they were on.

Anyway, we'll call this sharp , Sharp A

Sharp A was limited to $20K per game, and this shop took their action for years. They didn't always Win, but they won a lot more than lose.

at the same time there is a guy or two that works at the Shop to go through everyone's Work ( plays ) every week.
on the other side of the office where the Post up shop is there was talk of a player who hit for $13K, the player is a $300-$500 bettor, but this week the player
decided to up the ante betting $1000 per game. No big deal really, maybe he just liked the weeks card and he got on a hot streak.
The account still gets flagged because of the winnings.

The following week this post up player hits for $18K and the guys over on the post up shop are talking again. But this time the guys over at the Credit side
show interest and find out this Post up player is playing the same games as Sharp A

So we all get together ( Credit & Post up ) and decide the post up player is a beard for Sharp A

The Post up guy gets the boot, and the Sharp get's cut in half to $10K

I'm not saying this is what you're going through, the reason for the story is that a Guy like yourself are " Probably " getting cut or having problems is because a Post up shop isn't looking to have a guy like you betting into them.

I'm also a little surprised since you go back some years that you never came across any Real Credit shops.
and I do understand the part where you had problems at The Greek or Pinnacle because it seems you never got to their Credit sides

 

[UnderSiege]

Mogley, I'm interested in a mutually beneficial partnership. How can I get ahold of you?

 

[mrganja]

Not interested in selling picks, grinding in any way, or convincing others. I want to enjoy the betting experience by mentoring & profiting for my friends.

Please shed some light on the million things. I try hard, but can only think of TWO:

1) My friend reaches the agreed on threshold loss limit and I do not ppal/bitcoin the amount lost due to my picks & Live Bets. This would tarnish my rep as I am plenty visible online + physically being the owner of ManCave Axe Throwing/cigar lounge in Vegas

2) I possibly multiply the initial wager limit a 100 fold as I have been known to do and my friend does not pay my half

your reply to patsfan does not make a lick of sense to me. if you are not interested in money,just share your selections. if you are interested in making money just go tout..you are making this harder than it is...I just do not understand why you would get on the net and go through all this when you don't need to....also,if bm ripped me off, the 1st place i'd go would be the internet with every minor,and seemingly insignificant detail,because i'd want the world to know all about it..

 

[CHOPTALK]

I have never heard of anyone getting stiffed at bookmaker .

And like the other poster said .

If it happened to me the last thing I would do is not talk about it .

I would give every detail . Maybe even write a book about it .

 

[redsfan--banned]

(…)maybe even write a book about it .

thats it.