45 years ago today, we put a man on the moon

[TheComputerGroup]

I don't see any way you can have that many people in on a moon landing conspiracy and for them to keep it quiet for 45 years. There's always that guy out there that gets too drunk and spills the beans. And Armstrong didn't have any deathbed confessionals that I know of.

Sooners, this is the main question when conspiracies are brought up.......how could so many people keep their lips sealed?

There's several ways to look at this question.......

1) they don't pick just anyone to be involved in a profound conspiracy to cover up a huge event that will effect the world profoundly.

2) IMO, when a conspiracy is committed like in the JFK assassination, I believe they pick people from within a supposed "club/organization" like a high ranking mason & people that can be bought off 100%......

3) Buying off peoples silence is easy but needs lots of money.....someone hands someone 2 million to not keep their mouth shut or they can wind up dead seems like a deal to me. I spend my money comfortably & keep my mouth shut, is it hard? I saw you stated that if a person is drunk, then they might slip up.....sire that can happen but there's always surveillance on people involved in these acts & sometimes people die with no apparent cause but a heart attack for a young man aged 35, shady things can happen.

4) An example would be the Jimmy Hoffa disappearance......more than 1 guy was involved in his dissapearing & with the conspiracies abound, 1 or 2 men have come forward on their death beds but no answers.

5) JFK's assassination had a ton of people involved but no one ever admitted to anything while Oswald looked surprised to what had happened.

I can go on & on & the above statements are all examples/assumptions that had happened & could happen.

Conspiracies have fans for & against them.......

 

[TheComputerGroup]

Forgot to mention that quite a few people were murdered after the JFK assassination & they were supposedly involved one way or another.......

 

[GoSooners]

My thinking has always been that with the elaborate steps they would have had to go through to invent the Moon Landing conspiracy and then cover it up, in the long run it would have been easier to actually land a man on the moon. Now if somebody came out and actually proved by independent testing that the equipment and technology they used back then wasn't capable of making a moon landing I might listen. But I've never seen it. I just think the reason why we don't go to the Moon anymore is because it's already been done. Keep in mind that the US and Russians had a technology race back in the 60's. And the U.S. had a strong desire to prove to the world their dominance. Even if it meant trying what was a very high risk Moon landing.

It may never had happened as soon as it did if Kennedy hadn't declared we would put a man on the moon by the end of the decade. But we now live in a much different politically correct time when i don't think we would put that kind of risk on an astronaut. Especially after the two disastrous space shuttle incidents we've had sicne. I believe many things could have gone wrong with those moon landings. And in a couple cases they almost did. And Apollo 13 was lucky to make it home after a mechanical malfunction. We were very lucky to pull it off. Especially since we went back a few more times. Which also makes me believe it happened. If your going to spend that much money to make a fake landing, why do it more than once? So we're not talking about one conspiracy. There would have to have been multiple conspiracies involving hundreds if not thousands of people. That's why I've always called bullshit on this conspiracy.

 

[mplastered]

My older brother was also stationed at Keesler at the very same time. I remember as a kid my dad driving me down there to visit him in 1969 right after hurricane Camille came through there and pretty much flattened everything along the entire Mississippi coast. I've never seen anything like it..

Yes, I was there for Camille. It hit land on my birthday.

 

[wolfie_cr]

Like i said in the conspiracy thread a while back wolfie,( search and read if u care ) its not one thing( or any absurd argument fake moon landing theorists often have like the flag waving on the moon or no stars,) I know those are ridiculous arguments and are embarrassing to people like me who question the landings for political and scientific reasons. It is a cumulative thing, tons of proof and i am way too lazy to spend time explaining myself to people I dont know or care about. Its not in my comfort zone to do so, I dont really post here a lot (325 posts in almost 10 years) and there is a reason why.., BTW.. I am a special needs teacher in Orlando, Fl...best job in the world

In summary, your background is not science, thanks for answering. These "search and read " really piss me off as they are empty blanket comments, take those are apply them to a discussion about mermaids and they 'also work'

 

[wolfie_cr]

In addition to the conspiracy, we will have to add that the skylab project that came afterwards using the same technology, putting people in space for months at a time was also a conspiracy. I mean, the thing 'didnt work' I suppose.......it was all make believe.

 

[loomis41973]

In summary, your background is not science, thanks for answering. These "search and read " really piss me off as they are empty blanket comments, take those are apply them to a discussion about mermaids and they 'also work'

Mermaids are real. I don't have the time to explain it to ya though...(my moms calling me for dinner) Take my word for it though...they are real and work for the Illuminati.

 

[wolfie_cr]

Lol

 

[PerryHotter]

In addition to the conspiracy, we will have to add that the skylab project that came afterwards using the same technology, putting people in space for months at a time was also a conspiracy. I mean, the thing 'didnt work' I suppose.......it was all make believe.

Skylab was 140 miles in space, the space station about 220 miles,The moon about 239000. Big difference. Except for the "Moon landings" no man has ever been farther than 220 miles into space, ever. If anyone ever questions how gullible and foolish people we can be as a people in this country-well, look at who we elected as president twice

 

[PerryHotter]

In summary, your background is not science, thanks for answering. These "search and read " really piss me off as they are empty blanket comments, take those are apply them to a discussion about mermaids and they 'also work'

Again you are mistaken sir, I have a B.S. in Natural Sciences with a minor in Special Education. And again, I could not care less what anybody thinks as sheep will always be sheep, continue paying your taxes and believe what your government spoon feeds you

 

[StevieRay]

Next thing u will be telling me is chicks with dicks exist

 

[wolfie_cr]

Again you are mistaken sir, I have a B.S. in Natural Sciences with a minor in Special Education. And again, I could not care less what anybody thinks as sheep will always be sheep, continue paying your taxes and believe what your government spoon feeds you

I always thought the US university methods of minor/majors were funny. I have only heard of that in US universities, one of these days I am going to hear that someone has a degree in bioinformatics with a minor in Asian cooking.....anyhow

Skylab used the same rockets ,same computers, same procedures (rendezvous ,docking blabla), people "that kept playing the conspiracy"

You have done nothing here but beat your own drum and when you were hard pressed /engaged into a debate your easy and pathetic way out is "i am way too lazy to spend time explaining myself to people I dont know or care about."

Lazy is right, its intellectual laziness. The sheep keep dreaming about conspiracies , it makes them feel they are 'smart'

 

[festeringZit]

Skylab was 140 miles in space, the space station about 220 miles,The moon about 239000. Big difference. Except for the "Moon landings" no man has ever been farther than 220 miles into space, ever. If anyone ever questions how gullible and foolish people we can be as a people in this country-well, look at who we elected as president twice

You keep posting, but you said you didn't have time to elucidate your position. All we're asking is for one or two sentences that summarize your strongest point(s) that we didn't land on the moon, but you keep deflecting.

If you're going to make an outrageous claim based on your in-depth research into the subject matter, you'd think you'd be able to spend 5 minutes to make some kind of argument to back it up... anything? So far you've just made a complete ass of yourself - but there's still time for redemption.

 

[PerryHotter]

You keep posting, but you said you didn't have time to elucidate your position. All we're asking is for one or two sentences that summarize your strongest point(s) that we didn't land on the moon, but you keep deflecting.

If you're going to make an outrageous claim based on your in-depth research into the subject matter, you'd think you'd be able to spend 5 minutes to make some kind of argument to back it up... anything? So far you've just made a complete ass of yourself - but there's still time for redemption.

Perhaps you are right Festeringzit, maybe I was wrong to post incendiary comments without taking time to elaborate. Truth be told there are no quick one or two sentences or one or two or three paragraphs that could do justice to my beliefs. There are times when a simple explanation is not possible, imagine a judge giving an attorney a few minutes to defend his client. The whole moon landing thing is too complex to explain easily without sounding foolish, as is the Oswald-Kennedy conspiracy and I just cant just list all the fuckery that was afoot back then without supplying references to back it all up and no, I do not wish to spend an hour doing that when this isn't even the forum for such matters. I do NOT believe in secret societies ruling the world, or that 9-11 was in inside job or that there are reptilian aliens in secret positions of power in the world, really not into conspiracies, just a guy who has hard questions about some pretty unbelievable hogwash that people accept as fact way too easily. In my original post I also said the Kennedy/ Oswald affair was something I had problems with as well and wish people would wake up to the truth about that. BUT, ignorance is bliss and I envy you guys that, wish I had the time to make 10,000 or 20,000 posts like you guys but dont have the time or inclination to do so but good luck wagering on the wnba guys. This is my last post on the subject.

 

[StevieRay]

I bought some moon rocks at a gift shop one time so I know we landed on the moon. Herry Rotter yank'n our frank

 

[TheComputerGroup]

I bought some moon rocks at a gift shop one time so I know we landed on the moon. Herry Rotter yank'n our frank

Any kryptonite for sale?

 

[TheComputerGroup]

Perhaps you are right Festeringzit, maybe I was wrong to post incendiary comments without taking time to elaborate. Truth be told there are no quick one or two sentences or one or two or three paragraphs that could do justice to my beliefs. There are times when a simple explanation is not possible, imagine a judge giving an attorney a few minutes to defend his client. The whole moon landing thing is too complex to explain easily without sounding foolish, as is the Oswald-Kennedy conspiracy and I just cant just list all the fuckery that was afoot back then without supplying references to back it all up and no, I do not wish to spend an hour doing that when this isn't even the forum for such matters. I do NOT believe in secret societies ruling the world, or that 9-11 was in inside job or that there are reptilian aliens in secret positions of power in the world, really not into conspiracies, just a guy who has hard questions about some pretty unbelievable hogwash that people accept as fact way too easily. In my original post I also said the Kennedy/ Oswald affair was something I had problems with as well and wish people would wake up to the truth about that. BUT, ignorance is bliss and I envy you guys that, wish I had the time to make 10,000 or 20,000 posts like you guys but dont have the time or inclination to do so but good luck wagering on the wnba guys. This is my last post on the subject.

I see you believe that there was a conspiracy towards the events surrounding JFK & the landing on the moon but you discredit other conspiracies that in my book have a lot more evidential support in backing the theory of those conspiracies.

We all have a mind of our own & we evaluate the evidence presented to us in form of a newspaper, TV or internet.

I would say that if it wasn't for the internet, we would be in the dark about a lot of things going on in this world that the elite & high ranking officials do not want us to know.

Do I think we landed on the moon? Yes......do I think it could have been faked? Yes.......because I don't think our technology was there in the 1960's but then again, the military has technology that is 20 years ahead so maybe it did happen.

I just can't get it out of my head that we haven't been back since.......& others will say because we've already been there. I know that but if it was such a big accomplishment, we should have gone back.

 

[StevieRay]

Roving on Mars took the useless trip back to moon. Samples and exploring and tests ha been done. The Ol been there done that

 

[loomis41973]

Any kryptonite for sale?

Got a pocket full of it.

 

[PerryHotter]

I see you believe that there was a conspiracy towards the events surrounding JFK & the landing on the moon but you discredit other conspiracies that in my book have a lot more evidential support in backing the theory of those conspiracies.

We all have a mind of our own & we evaluate the evidence presented to us in form of a newspaper, TV or internet.

I would say that if it wasn't for the internet, we would be in the dark about a lot of things going on in this world that the elite & high ranking officials do not want us to know.

Do I think we landed on the moon? Yes......do I think it could have been faked? Yes.......because I don't think our technology was there in the 1960's but then again, the military has technology that is 20 years ahead so maybe it did happen.

I just can't get it out of my head that we haven't been back since.......& others will say because we've already been there. I know that but if it was such a big accomplishment, we should have gone back.

I said my last post would be final but I will chime in once more to respond to the computer groups statement, I did not mean to imply any discrediting of those other theories just that I don't believe them personally, and you are right that it is unbelievable that not just us but no other country has tried to go to the moon. In fact no human has dared go any further than about 220 miles ( well short of the hazardous radiation belts surrounding the globe, not to mention the new ones nasa just discovered last year making any venture even more dangerous) unless you believe in the moon landings. Going to the moon now should be a breeze tech-wise IF we went in the sixties and the argument that it is pointless is laughable. There is much to learn by going there. I knew better than to post these thoughts initially but I like to support the RX and its forums and chime in as much as possible and the site needs all the traffic, posters and different contributions it can get, but I knew i would be too lazy ( well, lazy is probably not the right word as i spend 8 hours a day educating the most challenging students in the country ) to spend an hour or two online trying to educate close minded people.