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Author opines Obama's strategy of cozying up to Iran to fight ISIS will blow up in everyone's face:
The New Middle East War

A single conflict now stretches from Baghdad to Beirut. How many sides are there—and whose side is the U.S. on?

By Michael Doran | July 2, 2014 at 5:22pm
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Responding to a public call to arms against the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, thousands of Iraqi Shiites spill out into the streets of Baghdad on June 27. Photo by Stringer/Anadolu Agency/Getty Images.
With the June 10 capture of the city of Mosul by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), a debate promptly reopened in the American media over America’s role in the fate of post-Saddam Hussein Iraq. Typifying one side of the debate was former President Bill Clinton, who on network television laid the blame for today’s problems squarely on the shoulders of the Bush administration. “If they hadn’t gone to war in Iraq,” he said, “none of this would be happening.” On the other side, there are suggestions that President Obama’s neglect of Iraq has been at least as harmful as was the interventionism of his predecessor, if not more so.

But the Iraq war as we once knew it is no longer, and the debate over it leaves us mired unprofitably in the past. The rise of ISIS is a subset of a new conflict, one that stretches all the way from Baghdad to Beirut. That conflict has its own unique character. What is it about? Who are its primary participants? Where do America’s vital interests lie, and what should America’s strategy be?

The new war is, in brief, a struggle over the regional order. In the balance hangs the future shape of Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon—their political shape no less than their contours on a map. On the battlefield at any given moment, one can find a dizzying array of actors, but at the basic strategic level the conflict has three sides: Shiite Iran and its proxies; ISIS and likeminded Sunni extremists; and the traditional allies of the United States: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, and Israel.

Which side is the United States on? Surprisingly, not the side of its traditional allies. Instead, Obama supports Iran. One can argue about whether this pro-Iran tilt is accidental or intentional, but one cannot deny its existence.

To see this picture clearly, we must ignore what the Obama administration says and focus on what it actually does. On Syria, for example, the White House continually repeats the tired line that we are working to convince President Bashar al-Assad to step aside and allow the opposition and the government to negotiate a caretaker authority. Yet who any longer gives any credence to this claim? It has long been clear that Washington wants and expects Assad to stay. Post-Mosul, the United States and its European allies even see the Syrian regime as a potential asset against ISIS.

What about the $500 million in support of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) that the administration has lately requested from Congress? Simply put, the purpose of that aid is to keep the beleaguered FSA on life support lest ISIS swallow it up. Even after having made the request, the administration has explicitly resisted providing the FSA with the kind of weapons and training it would need to change the local balance of power. Instead, the administration remains wedded to its policy of “preserving regime institutions”—a euphemism for Assad’s murder machine, which is thoroughly integrated with Iran’s Revolutionary Guards—and turns a blind eye to the deployment in Syria of Iraqi Shiite and Hizballah militiamen supported by Tehran.

The upshot is that when the president says he opposes the presence of foreign fighters in Syria, he is referring exclusively to Sunni jihadis. He has given Shiites a pass.

This brings us to Iraq, where the alignment between Washington and Tehran is even more transparent. On June 16, President Obama sent up to 300 military advisers to Baghdad, while also increasing our intelligence operations; two weeks later, he augmented the force by nearly 200 soldiers, amid reports that they would fly Apache helicopters and deploy surveillance drones. Unfortunately, however, since the departure of American troops in 2011, the Shiite regime of Nouri al-Maliki has itself become a satellite of Iran, whose Revolutionary Guards have thoroughly penetrated Iraqi security services. For all intents and purposes, then, the American troopers dispatched to Iraq are working to harden Iranian defenses, since any intelligence that we share with Maliki’s security services will inevitably land on the desk in Tehran of Qassem Suleimani, the head of the Quds Force.

Where Iraq is concerned, the United States and Iran now resemble two men walking single file down the street, repeating the same messages to everyone they encounter. Their silent coordination was recently on clear display in Kurdistan. After the fall of Mosul, the Iranian government urged Massoud Barzani, president of the Kurdish regional government in Iraq, to fight ISIS and support the government in Baghdad. A few days later, John Kerry appeared in Erbil to deliver an identical message.

But the effort to build an anti-ISIS coalition with Iran will inevitably fail—and spectacularly so. There are many reasons why, but one deserves special attention: Iran is incapable of making it succeed. Consider: over the last three years, Obama gave Iran a free hand in Syria and Iraq to counter Sunni jihadism. The result is a revitalized Iranian alliance system—and an al-Qaeda safe haven that now stretches from the outskirts of Baghdad in Iraq to Aleppo in Syria.

Yet Tehran is less discomfited by that safe haven than the Obama administration appears to think. Lacking the capability to defeat ISIS militarily, it thinks instead of managing the conflict to its own advantage. Two benefits have already accrued. In the absence of a strong American effort to shape the new order, opponents of ISIS have almost nowhere to turn but Iran. At the same time, longstanding American hostility to Iranian regional adventures has all but evaporated.

On top of these obvious advantages, the Iranian leadership probably also calculates that, by pretending to be partners in counterterrorism with the West, it has magnified its leverage in the nuclear negotiations, which is Iran’s number one foreign-policy priority. This calculation may well be correct.

In any case, Iran and its allies lack not only the military capability to defeat Sunni jihadism but also the requisite political legitimacy. If the Iraq war taught us anything, it was that the defeat of al-Qaeda requires enlisting Sunni partners on our side. The best way to do that is to provide those civilian partners with a security regime they can trust. But today the non-jihadi Sunnis of Iraq and Syria fear both Maliki and Assad—who can blame them?—and have no reason to trust either America or Iran. In Iraq, the moment American troops departed, Maliki set to work shutting Sunnis out of the political system, without so much as a peep from Washington. In Syria, Assad has been savagely raping Sunni society. Iran, for its part, having directly aided both leaders in their respective sectarian projects, is toxic to Sunnis of all political stripes.

With counterterrorism partners like these, Obama has no chance of attracting reliable Sunni allies. Absent the positive vision of a future political order they would be willing to fight for, the FSA forces trained by the U.S. in Syria, who do not regard ISIS as their primary enemy, will melt away when confronted with opposition from that quarter. As for America’s traditional Muslim allies in the region—Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Turkey—they can be counted on for, at most, qualified support. Although ISIS poses a significant threat to their security, they will be reluctant to join a coalition destined to advance the interests of Iran and its allies.

For Carl von Clausewitz, the great theoretician of war, identifying a conflict’s “center of gravity” is of key importance. Herein lies “the hub of all power and movement, on which everything [in war] depends.” Obama’s strategy ignores the center of gravity in today’s war, which is the struggle against the Iranian alliance system. The heart of the battle today is in Syria, where Assad, Iran’s closest ally, presents the alliance at its most brutal, if also its most vulnerable. Until Assad is gone, Syria will remain the region’s most powerful magnet of global jihad. So long as the jihadis enjoy a safe haven in Syria, they will continue to dominate the Sunni heartland of Iraq.

When a state misidentifies the center of gravity, writes Clausewitz, its blows, no matter how hard, strike only air. President Obama is now winding up to throw a big punch at ISIS, but it will never connect. Regardless of his intentions, the effect of his policies is to deliver large portions of Iraq and Syria to ISIS while simultaneously empowering Iran.

This outcome bodes ill for the United States. But it will be especially dangerous for those countries that the U.S. used to call allies: Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Israel, to name just three. Israel is in particular peril. American policy is partitioning Syria between Iran and the global jihadis—the two worst enemies of the Jewish state, now digging in right across its northern border. There can be no happy ending to this story.
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Michael Doran, a senior fellow of the Saban Center for Middle East Policy at the Brookings Institution, is a former deputy assistant secretary of defense and a former senior director of the National Security Council in the George W. Bush administration. He is finishing a book on Eisenhower and the Middle East. He tweets @doranimated.
 

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Sounds like a shit show! If you were President, Scott... What would you do? WWSD
 

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Sounds like a shit show! If you were President, Scott... What would you do? WWSD

Damn Dude, I just don't know now.

Regarding Israel (and probably for our circumstances here as well) I wish I could wind the clock back 70 years. I blame a lot of this shit on the UN, on the British thirst to conquer the world and leaving the M-E in a shambles, and finally the media for whitewashing terrorism into militancy, and inventing the horrid term 'cycle of violence'. It was Reuters that started all that shit. I think if in the 60s had everyone labelled Arafat what he was, a mass murdering terrorist who lectured the UN with a sidearm, invented airplane hijackings, pushed a cripple off a ship to his death, and Abbas, now the Palestinian PM who financed the murder of 12 Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics -- if the world would have firmly stood up for Israel and not appeased the oil, I mean the Arabs I don't think terrorism would have become mainstreamed all over the world. Now everyone who kidnaps and kills innocent people from Boko Haram to ISIS is a 'militant'.

What we do now Akphi is post #32. While I don't agree with the "Obama is a Muslim" chants we hear from some of the Right here I don't know if his problem is his stomach or his will. Or purely politics. Or even his intellect. I know he is privy to way more information than you and I have about all the actors in this region. And yet he sits on his hands. Is he, like Clinton worried about his legacy? Clinton did a lot of damage to Israel in an effort to seal his legacy. For Obama I think that ship has sailed anyway. I think he needs to make a decision and then act on it. Now doing nothing is a choice. But a bad one. He needs to look at the situation in the region with clear eyes and decide who our allies and our enemies are, and make a committed stand. And that doesn't mean choosing Iran or the Saudis over one another. That simply will not work. I don't have much faith in Obama, but at the point we are at now there are so many bad choices that I don't even know if George Washington would know what to do.

For peace between Israel and the Palestinians to become reality, whether or not that includes an eventual Pal State Israel must be allowed to win the war with untied hands. 66 years ago the Arabs lost. And for 66 years the Arabs have dictated the terms of the peace.

In Syria Assad has to go in a way that does not build another Sunni dictatorship or empower Iran. Unfortunately we have learned that transition from dictatorship to democracy does not happen overnight. You know which country (hope I don't jinx this!!) has been calmer lately, and has been going after both Hamas in Gaza AND global jihadis in the Sinai? Egypt! The Egyptian military is still in power in Egypt, and is coordinating with both Israeli and US forces. But Assad is a minority dictator and a mass murderer. With Iran's help he destabilizes Lebanon, aids Hizb'Allah and has burdened Jordan with thousands of refugees that we are now paying to house and feed.

In Iraq a decision must be made whether it can become a viable State with an inclusive government. For that to happen ISIS and all the AQ umbrellas have to be defeated, even if the US has to do it alone. Best if the Iraqi army were to do it of course. But if not, and Obama decides to do nothing than in 2004 Joe Biden was right. It's a state that was cobbled together that should be divided. Probably won't be a good outcome either.
 

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Scott, not near my comp so responding in length would take me a while on my phone. Will be on it later and respond with some questions.
 

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Published Sunday, July 6, 2014
[h=3]Families of Slain Israeli and Palestinian Teens Turn to Each Other for Comfort[/h][h=4]Rachel Fraenkel Touches Hearts With Open Door Policy[/h]By Sigal Samuel
Open Door Policy: Rachel Fraenkel, the bereaved mother of murdered Israeli-American teenager Naftali Fraenkel, welcomes visitors in her home.


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The families of murdered Israeli teen Naftali Fraenkel and murdered Palestinian teen Mohammed Abu Khdeir are drawing comfort from an unexpected source: each other.
Jerusalem mayor Nir Barkat took to Facebook on Sunday to write about an “emotional and special telephone conversation between two families that have lost their sons.” He said that during his visit to the Fraenkel family home, he had a chance to speak to Hussein Abu Khdeir, Mohammed’s father, and express pain at the “barbaric” murder of his son.
Barkat then suggested that Abu Khdeir speak to Yishai Fraenkel, the uncle of Naftali Fraenkel who recently told the press that “the life of an Arab is equally precious to that of a Jew. Blood is blood, and murder is murder, whether that murder is Jewish or Arab.” The two men took Barkat’s advice and comforted one another by telephone.
In a separate visit organized by Rabbi Rafi Ostroff, chair of the religious council of Gush Etzion, Palestinians from the Hebron area showed up at the door of the Fraenkel family, looking to comfort the bereaved.
Asked why they had come, one Palestinian said, “Things will only get better when we learn to cope with each other’s pain and stop getting angry at each other. Our task is to give strength to the family and also to take a step toward my nation’s liberation. We believe that the way to our liberation is through the hearts of Jews.”
He later said that the visit went very well from his perspective. “They received us very, very nicely. The mother [Rachel Fraenkel] was incredible.”
“I see before me a Jewish family who has lost a son opening the door to me,” he added. “That’s not obvious. It touched my heart and my nation.”
The Palestinian visitors also mentioned an initiative spearheaded by Jews and Muslims to transform July 15, the Jewish fast day known as 17 Tammuz, into a joint fast day for people of both religions who wish to express their desire to end violence in the region.
 

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"Open Door Policy: Rachel Fraenkel, the bereaved mother of murdered Israeli-American teenager Naftali Fraenkel, welcomes visitors in her home."

My God she is an amazing woman. And she is not unique either. I have seen quite a few Jewish parents of dead children reaching out to the Arabs.

"The families of murdered Israeli teen Naftali Fraenkel and murdered Palestinian teen Mohammed Abu Khdeir are drawing comfort from an unexpected source: each other."

Peace and understanding starts with ordinary people thrown together in tragic circumstances.


"Jerusalem mayor Nir Barkat took to Facebook on Sunday to write about an “emotional and special telephone conversation between two families that have lost their sons.” He said that during his visit to the Fraenkel family home, he had a chance to speak to Hussein Abu Khdeir, Mohammed’s father, and express pain at the “barbaric” murder of his son.
Barkat then suggested that Abu Khdeir speak to Yishai Fraenkel, the uncle of Naftali Fraenkel who recently told the press that “the life of an Arab is equally precious to that of a Jew. Blood is blood, and murder is murder, whether that murder is Jewish or Arab.” The two men took Barkat’s advice and comforted one another by telephone."

Kudos to the mayor!

"In a separate visit organized by Rabbi Rafi Ostroff, chair of the religious council of Gush Etzion (Which some people disgustingly refer to as a 'Settlement' - SL), Palestinians from the Hebron area showed up at the door of the Fraenkel family, looking to comfort the bereaved."

I am thoroughly amazed. in a good way. I could cry!

"Asked why they had come, one Palestinian said, “Things will only get better when we learn to cope with each other’s pain and stop getting angry at each other. Our task is to give strength to the family and also to take a step toward my nation’s liberation. We believe that the way to our liberation is through the hearts of Jews.”
He later said that the visit went very well from his perspective. “They received us very, very nicely. The mother [Rachel Fraenkel] was incredible.”
“I see before me a Jewish family who has lost a son opening the door to me,” he added. “That’s not obvious. It touched my heart and my nation.”
The Palestinian visitors also mentioned an initiative spearheaded by Jews and Muslims to transform July 15, the Jewish fast day known as 17 Tammuz, into a joint fast day for people of both religions who wish to express their desire to end violence in the region."


Again, amazed! Enough now to even let his rhetorical nonsense about his nation's liberation slide. Now (sadly) it is up to the Israeli army to protect him and his family, as they will be branded as traitors. When the majority of Palestinians realize that kidnapping and killing innocent Jews is something to be condemned and not lauded, that is the day there will be peace.
 

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Israel is all talk and no action. This not be good at all, and, to their detriment!

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Guesser I had not seen this yet - Thanks!

"Open Door Policy: Rachel Fraenkel, the bereaved mother of murdered Israeli-American teenager Naftali Fraenkel, welcomes visitors in her home."

My God she is an amazing woman. And she is not unique either. I have seen quite a few Jewish parents of dead children reaching out to the Arabs.

"The families of murdered Israeli teen Naftali Fraenkel and murdered Palestinian teen Mohammed Abu Khdeir are drawing comfort from an unexpected source: each other."

Peace and understanding starts with ordinary people thrown together in tragic circumstances.


"Jerusalem mayor Nir Barkat took to Facebook on Sunday to write about an “emotional and special telephone conversation between two families that have lost their sons.” He said that during his visit to the Fraenkel family home, he had a chance to speak to Hussein Abu Khdeir, Mohammed’s father, and express pain at the “barbaric” murder of his son.
Barkat then suggested that Abu Khdeir speak to Yishai Fraenkel, the uncle of Naftali Fraenkel who recently told the press that “the life of an Arab is equally precious to that of a Jew. Blood is blood, and murder is murder, whether that murder is Jewish or Arab.” The two men took Barkat’s advice and comforted one another by telephone."

Kudos to the mayor!

"In a separate visit organized by Rabbi Rafi Ostroff, chair of the religious council of Gush Etzion (Which some people disgustingly refer to as a 'Settlement' - SL), Palestinians from the Hebron area showed up at the door of the Fraenkel family, looking to comfort the bereaved."

I am thoroughly amazed. in a good way. I could cry!

"Asked why they had come, one Palestinian said, “Things will only get better when we learn to cope with each other’s pain and stop getting angry at each other. Our task is to give strength to the family and also to take a step toward my nation’s liberation. We believe that the way to our liberation is through the hearts of Jews.”
He later said that the visit went very well from his perspective. “They received us very, very nicely. The mother [Rachel Fraenkel] was incredible.”
“I see before me a Jewish family who has lost a son opening the door to me,” he added. “That’s not obvious. It touched my heart and my nation.”
The Palestinian visitors also mentioned an initiative spearheaded by Jews and Muslims to transform July 15, the Jewish fast day known as 17 Tammuz, into a joint fast day for people of both religions who wish to express their desire to end violence in the region."


Again, amazed! Enough now to even let his rhetorical nonsense about his nation's liberation slide. Now (sadly) it is up to the Israeli army to protect him and his family, as they will be branded as traitors. When the majority of Palestinians realize that kidnapping and killing innocent Jews is something to be condemned and not lauded, that is the day there will be peace.

Scott, it's the ordinary people, that just want to live their lives, side by side with their neighbors, that are the hopes for peace. They are not the loudest voices, and too often they are just ignored while the loud voices of hatred and rhetoric talk, but they are the silent majority, in every Religion, every region, and they are the ones who will lead us to peace, if it is to ever be achieved.
 

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Scott, it's the ordinary people, that just want to live their lives, side by side with their neighbors, that are the hopes for peace. They are not the loudest voices, and too often they are just ignored while the loud voices of hatred and rhetoric talk, but they are the silent majority, in every Religion, every region, and they are the ones who will lead us to peace, if it is to ever be achieved.

I only wish you were right. But there were too many Arabs holding up that 3 sign. Their T-Shirt factories ran out of cotton!
 

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Damn Dude, I just don't know now.

Regarding Israel (and probably for our circumstances here as well) I wish I could wind the clock back 70 years. I blame a lot of this shit on the UN, on the British thirst to conquer the world and leaving the M-E in a shambles, and finally the media for whitewashing terrorism into militancy, and inventing the horrid term 'cycle of violence'. It was Reuters that started all that shit. I think if in the 60s had everyone labelled Arafat what he was, a mass murdering terrorist who lectured the UN with a sidearm, invented airplane hijackings, pushed a cripple off a ship to his death, and Abbas, now the Palestinian PM who financed the murder of 12 Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics -- if the world would have firmly stood up for Israel and not appeased the oil, I mean the Arabs I don't think terrorism would have become mainstreamed all over the world. Now everyone who kidnaps and kills innocent people from Boko Haram to ISIS is a 'militant'.

What we do now Akphi is post #32. While I don't agree with the "Obama is a Muslim" chants we hear from some of the Right here I don't know if his problem is his stomach or his will. Or purely politics. Or even his intellect. I know he is privy to way more information than you and I have about all the actors in this region. And yet he sits on his hands. Is he, like Clinton worried about his legacy? Clinton did a lot of damage to Israel in an effort to seal his legacy. For Obama I think that ship has sailed anyway. I think he needs to make a decision and then act on it. Now doing nothing is a choice. But a bad one. He needs to look at the situation in the region with clear eyes and decide who our allies and our enemies are, and make a committed stand. And that doesn't mean choosing Iran or the Saudis over one another. That simply will not work. I don't have much faith in Obama, but at the point we are at now there are so many bad choices that I don't even know if George Washington would know what to do.

For peace between Israel and the Palestinians to become reality, whether or not that includes an eventual Pal State Israel must be allowed to win the war with untied hands. 66 years ago the Arabs lost. And for 66 years the Arabs have dictated the terms of the peace.

In Syria Assad has to go in a way that does not build another Sunni dictatorship or empower Iran. Unfortunately we have learned that transition from dictatorship to democracy does not happen overnight. You know which country (hope I don't jinx this!!) has been calmer lately, and has been going after both Hamas in Gaza AND global jihadis in the Sinai? Egypt! The Egyptian military is still in power in Egypt, and is coordinating with both Israeli and US forces. But Assad is a minority dictator and a mass murderer. With Iran's help he destabilizes Lebanon, aids Hizb'Allah and has burdened Jordan with thousands of refugees that we are now paying to house and feed.

In Iraq a decision must be made whether it can become a viable State with an inclusive government. For that to happen ISIS and all the AQ umbrellas have to be defeated, even if the US has to do it alone. Best if the Iraqi army were to do it of course. But if not, and Obama decides to do nothing than in 2004 Joe Biden was right. It's a state that was cobbled together that should be divided. Probably won't be a good outcome either.

Ok, so coming from a broad perspective of someone who just reads and doesn't have a huge vested interest in the middle east. What I know from my reading is that there are basically two sides... Sunnis (the vast majority of Muslims) backed by Saudi Arabia and Syria... and the Shiites, backed by Iran and have a stronghold of the government in Iraq. We tried for ten years to get the two sides to work together. It has not worked, in fact it has gotten worse and now power is up for grabs. So diplomacy is pretty much not an option. Picking which side militarily is a very risky choice for the US. I mean ISIS to my understanding is a small group of radicals but they are backed by a LARGE group of Sunnis. And just targeting them individually through airstrikes is very difficult as they mix in with the general population and aren't just chillin on their own.

So neither side is really the "good guys" or "bad guys"... they are just people that we would rather work together than having to fight. How this plays in to Israel's point of view I have no clue as I don't know enough about their history. I imagine, just from a guess that Israel might be on the Sunnis side, because Iran is for the Shiites? That's something you probably know.

That's where it breaks down for me. Which side do you take? I imagine we can possibly try to get them to establish borders, but we all know that won't stop the violence unless they both agree to it. Seems to me there is almost no solution to stop this from happening. I personally believe we should strategically attack any type of stronghold for some of the serious groups of fighters. Like if we know where ISIS is training, just to bomb the shit out of it. If we have an idea where their weapons are stockpiled, to bomb it, if we know they are traveling, to bomb the shit out of them. That's what I feel our role should be. Otherwise, I have no idea. Seems like a complete mess and no solution will work out for everyone unless they themselves agree to stop fucking with each other.
 

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"I personally believe we should strategically attack any type of stronghold for some of the serious groups of fighters. Like if we know where ISIS is training, just to bomb the shit out of it. If we have an idea where their weapons are stockpiled, to bomb it, if we know they are traveling, to bomb the shit out of them."


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[h=1]Netanyahu Oct. 1, 2013 [/h]
Now, I have no illusions about how difficult this will be to achieve. Twenty years ago, the peace process between Israel and the Palestinians began. Six Israeli prime ministers, myself included, have not succeeded at achieving peace with the Palestinians. My predecessors were prepared to make painful concessions. So am I. But so far the Palestinian leaders haven't been prepared to offer the painful concessions they must make in order to end the conflict.
For peace to be achieved, the Palestinians must finally recognize the Jewish state, and Israel's security needs must be met.
I am prepared to make an historic compromise for genuine and enduring peace, but I will never compromise on the security of my people and of my country, the one and only Jewish state.
 

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Ladies and gentlemen, one cold day in the late 19th century, my grandfather Nathan and his younger brother Judah were standing in a railway station in the heart of Europe. They were seen by a group of anti-Semitic hoodlums who ran towards them waving clubs, screaming "Death to the Jews."

My grandfather shouted to his younger brother to flee and save himself, and he then stood alone against the raging mob to slow it down. They beat him senseless, they left him for dead, and before he passed out, covered in his own blood, he said to himself "What a disgrace, what a disgrace. The descendants of the Macabees lie in the mud powerless to defend themselves."
He promised himself then that if he lived, he would take his family to the Jewish homeland and help build a future for the Jewish people. I stand here today as Israel's prime minister because my grandfather kept that promise.
And so many other Israelis have a similar story, a parent or a grandparent who fled every conceivable oppression and came to Israel to start a new life in our ancient homeland. Together we've transformed a bludgeoned Jewish people, left for dead, into a vibrant, thriving nation, a defending itself with the courage of modern Maccabees, developing limitless possibilities for the future.
In our time the Biblical prophecies are being realized. As the prophet Amos said, they shall rebuild ruined cities and inhabit them. They shall plant vineyards and drink their wine. They shall till gardens and eat their fruit. And I will plant them upon their soil never to be uprooted again.
 

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Netanyahu Oct. 1, 2013

Ladies and gentlemen, the people of Israel have come home never to be uprooted again.


 

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Ladies and gentlemen, Israel has extended its hand in peace from the moment it was established 63 years ago. On behalf of Israel and the Jewish people, I extend that hand again today. I extend it to the people of Egypt and Jordan, with renewed friendship for neighbors with whom we have made peace. I extend it to the people of Turkey, with respect and good will. I extend it to the people of Libya and Tunisia, with admiration for those trying to build a democratic future. I extend it to the other peoples of North Africa and the Arabian Peninsula, with whom we want to forge a new beginning. I extend it to the people of Syria, Lebanon and Iran, with awe at the courage of those fighting brutal repression.
But most especially, I extend my hand to the Palestinian people, with whom we seek a just and lasting peace.




 

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Prime Minister Olmert afterwards made an even more sweeping offer, in 2008. President Abbas didn't even respond to it.




But Israel did more than just make sweeping offers. We actually left territory. We withdrew from Lebanon in 2000 and from every square inch of Gaza in 2005. That didn't calm the Islamic storm, the militant Islamic storm that threatens us. It only brought the storm closer and make it stronger.




Hezbollah and Hamas fired thousands of rockets against our cities from the very territories we vacated. See, when Israel left Lebanon and Gaza, the moderates didn't defeat the radicals, the moderates were devoured by the radicals. And I regret to say that international troops like UNIFIL in Lebanon and UBAM (ph) in Gaza didn't stop the radicals from attacking Israel.




We left Gaza hoping for peace.
We didn't freeze the settlements in Gaza, we uprooted them. We did exactly what the theory says: Get out, go back to the 1967 borders, dismantle the settlements.
And I don't think people remember how far we went to achieve this. We uprooted thousands of people from their homes. We pulled children out of -- out of their schools and their kindergartens. We bulldozed synagogues. We even -- we even moved loved ones from their graves. And then, having done all that, we gave the keys of Gaza to President Abbas.



Now the theory says it should all work out, and President Abbas and the Palestinian Authority now could build a peaceful state in Gaza. You can remember that the entire world applauded. They applauded our withdrawal as an act of great statesmanship. It was a bold act of peace.



But ladies and gentlemen, we didn't get peace. We got war. We got Iran, which through its proxy Hamas promptly kicked out the Palestinian Authority. The Palestinian Authority collapsed in a day -- in one day.
 

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Scott, shit be getting crazy again, you think things are going to escalate to a full on battle?
 

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