Your Opinion on the 10 Second Rule In College Football....

[rolltide]

Love the hyperbole. The offense should be allowed to dictate the pace of the game.

so in the nhl you shouldn't be allowed to sub out if you don't have the puck and the batter, in mlb, should be ready at all times because you can rapid fire pitch if he's not in the batter's box?

wtf is wrong with you people?

right now if the defense makes a tackle next to their sideline they have to wait and see if they offense (on the other side of the field) decides whether or not a guy or two can get subbed in even though they're 10 feet away from the sideline already? that's idiotic

while I don't believe in regulating this with a penalty it was a stupid rule to begin with. if you feel you have the time and ability to sub in a player on defense before the start of the next play, do it. if not, then you're getting a 5 yard penalty for too many men on the field. If the offense wants to run every play to their side of the field and play hurry up so you have no prayer of subbing out a guy, that's their prerogative but giving the offensive team the say in what can transpire on every play when they have the ball is bullshit

let 'em dictate the pace of the game ... if the defense has time to get a guy or two subbed out in between plays then let them.

hell in nhl dudes get caught on long shifts all the time but it's not regulated by any weird ass rule that says you can't sub out if you don't have the puck, it's part of the strategy of the game just as it should be in college football. And plenty of times the defense gets caught on a bad change in NHL setting up either a too many men on ice penalty or an offensive opportunity. But it's not governed by some bullshit arbitrary rule that says the defense can only change men if the offense does. That is just a plain dumbass rule, almost as stupid as calling a delay of game for running a play too fast

 

[TopShelf11]

aren't you going to whine today about being on post review?

Welcome to theRX...hope you enjoy it here.

 

[MikeB]

so in the nhl you shouldn't be allowed to sub out if you don't have the puck and the batter, in mlb, should be ready at all times because you can rapid fire pitch if he's not in the batter's box?

wtf is wrong with you people?

right now if the defense makes a tackle next to their sideline they have to wait and see if they offense (on the other side of the field) decides whether or not a guy or two can get subbed in even though they're 10 feet away from the sideline already? that's idiotic

while I don't believe in regulating this with a penalty it was a stupid rule to begin with. if you feel you have the time and ability to sub in a player on defense before the start of the next play, do it. if not, then you're getting a 5 yard penalty for too many men on the field. If the offense wants to run every play to their side of the field and play hurry up so you have no prayer of subbing out a guy, that's their prerogative but giving the offensive team the say in what can transpire on every play when they have the ball is bullshit

let 'em dictate the pace of the game ... if the defense has time to get a guy or two subbed out in between plays then let them.

hell in nhl dudes get caught on long shifts all the time but it's not regulated by any weird ass rule that says you can't sub out if you don't have the puck, it's part of the strategy of the game just as it should be in college football. And plenty of times the defense gets caught on a bad change in NHL setting up either a too many men on ice penalty or an offensive opportunity. But it's not governed by some bullshit arbitrary rule that says the defense can only change men if the offense does. That is just a plain dumbass rule, almost as stupid as calling a delay of game for running a play too fast

Maybe you're right......."stop LeBron, you can't go on a fast break, the defense wasn't ready."

 

[GoSooners]

I think with this Saban Rule most of this argument is all about conference philosophy. I'm betting if you read the Big 12 message boards and then the SEC message boards you're going to get two totally different opinions on this subject. Personally I could care less what the NHL does, or any other inferior sport to college football. It's a different game that should be played under different rules. If your 11 guys can't hold up to my 11 guys without substituting, maybe you should start drafting the 275 pounders instead of the 320 pounders. The Big 12 has been dealing with the no huddle for the last decade. You don't hear them complaining about it. They've learned to adapt and deal with it.

Bama has played plenty of hurry up teams in the past. But after all these years Saban didn't come up with this rule change until he played Texas A&M. Which is a team that can not only do the hurry up better than just about anybody, they have the athletes and speed to run it and make it dangerous for even the best defenses. The SEC has been a pretty straightforward pro style offensive league for many years. And up until now the defenses have pretty much dictated the game. Which is right in Saban's wheelhouse, since I've heard him and his players say that they want to play their game and force their opponents to have to adjust to their defense. With teams like Auburn and A&M it changes that philosophy. So this is a dilemma for Saban/Smart. They don't want to, but they are going to have to make some changes going forward because with A&M's and Auburn's success I can see more SEC teams going to the HUNH offense.

 

[shdw01]

Regardless of what ppl in here are arguing it sounds like everyone is in agreement that this 10-second rule is not needed.

I do want to point out that if they made a rule change and allowed defense to sub out regardless of offense, that will do nothing vs the hurry-up when run efficiently. There is no way a defense is able to move a fat lineman out (he is already gassed) and bring another one in. if they are both on the field at the same time the offense will snap the ball and get free yards. If the linemen miraculously made it back in time, the defense is not set, and the new lineman is a little gassed from the 30 yd sprint with no time to settle.

I guess what i'm trying to say is 10 seconds may not be much but it will give the defense a fighting chance (both players can be on the field together). Although, I think the real reason for this push is the defensive teams want that extra rest for their main guys

 

[GoSooners]

Regardless of what ppl in here are arguing it sounds like everyone is in agreement that this 10-second rule is not needed.

I do want to point out that if they made a rule change and allowed defense to sub out regardless of offense, that will do nothing vs the hurry-up when run efficiently. There is no way a defense is able to move a fat lineman out (he is already gassed) and bring another one in. if they are both on the field at the same time the offense will snap the ball and get free yards. If the linemen miraculously made it back in time, the defense is not set, and the new lineman is a little gassed from the 30 yd sprint with no time to settle.

I guess what i'm trying to say is 10 seconds may not be much but it will give the defense a fighting chance (both players can be on the field together). Although, I think the real reason for this push is the defensive teams want that extra rest for their main guys

If the offense isn't getting a rest, why should the defense? Also, what is the point of having the 40 second clock, if you can't do anything for the first 10 seconds? And what if a team has a 4th an 1 and wants to rush up to the ball for a quarterback sneak? The rule takes the possibility of that play away if they want to catch the other team by surprise with a quick play. It may not have hurt THAT much if it had been passed. But it's still an awkward rule that probably would have opened the door for other rule changes down the road.

 

[shdw01]

If the offense isn't getting a rest, why should the defense? Also, what is the point of having the 40 second clock, if you can't do anything for the first 10 seconds? And what if a team has a 4th an 1 and wants to rush up to the ball for a quarterback sneak? The rule takes the possibility of that play away if they want to catch the other team by surprise with a quick play. It may not have hurt THAT much if it had been passed. But it's still an awkward rule that probably would have opened the door for other rule changes down the road.

I'm not saying the defense should get a rest. I love the way it is now. I'm just saying there is a reason they want the 10 second rule and not simply allowing for defensive subs at anytime.

 

[GoSooners]

I'm not saying the defense should get a rest. I love the way it is now. I'm just saying there is a reason they want the 10 second rule and not simply allowing for defensive subs at anytime.

It is obviously the sub reason. Like I said, I'm not against it if the offense also subs. But have you seen 300 pound defensive linemen try to run off the field 5 minutes into the game? It ain't pretty, and it ain't very fast. So I doubt if it would do them any good anyway. I think we would see a lot of "12 men on the field" penalties. The Big 12 coaches learned this a long time ago. The problem with this rule is it's 10 seconds now. If passed I can see Saban and others pushing for 15 seconds, then 20 and so on down the road.

 

[skoda]

When are the coach's going to give up some of their salaries for these 19 year olds?

I heard Saban has a couple 25 year olds on his teams :think2:

 

[Murphy8276]

glad they postponed looking at it.. another year of fast offenses is what viewers want to see.. I personally dont care for bama, but also dont think its just them pushing for it to be slowed down... if anything we should ask bama and other top defenses if we can make a rule to slow down their pursuit and defensive schemes somehow.. even the playing field the other way.. lol.. let the oregons and the like have their hayday too.. its fun to watch :toast:


-murph

 

[GoSooners]

glad they postponed looking at it.. another year of fast offenses is what viewers want to see.. I personally dont care for bama, but also dont think its just them pushing for it to be slowed down... if anything we should ask bama and other top defenses if we can make a rule to slow down their pursuit and defensive schemes somehow.. even the playing field the other way.. lol.. let the oregons and the like have their hayday too.. its fun to watch :toast:


-murph

Your right, it's not just Saban/Bama pushing for it. Biliema is also for a rule change. And I'm sure if they asked the opinions of just about every defensive coordinator in the country, they would also be for a change. But of course they would. Anything that would simplify the game for them they would be for. But that's not going to happen. The hurry up/no huddle is now a big part of college football for one reason, and that is to make college football a more even playing field. Teams with less talent than Bama and the other bluebloods of college football, have a serious shortage in talent to those teams. They need a handicap of some type to make them more competitive. The HUNH gives them that chance. It makes for much better and more intriguing football games, which is what the public wants to see. More and more coaches are starting to see the success of it. Even with the historically straight ahead/vanilla SEC, almost half the teams in that conference will be using the hurry up no huddle offense in their stable of plays in 2014. Saban and others see what is coming. That's why there is concern on his part. It's also why the entire SEC isn't supportive of the "Saban Rule."