i told you in the past that something was wrong with pinnacle lines ( nl vs al hr...i recall another poster complaining on how lines move so drastically in the early morning...
They are humans and they are not perfect, they can do mistakes time to time, no scratch no snatch.. it was a $10.00 bet
This is a nonsense discussion is just like complaining about a Bonus Play
They are humans and they are not perfect, they can do mistakes time to time, no scratch no snatch.. it was a $10.00 bet
This is a nonsense discussion is just like complaining about a Bonus Play
no where did i say you were to blame for bad line or the c/s issues. How could you if you dont work there? What i DID say is that when you expect the unresonalbe dont complain if it does not come out the way you want. Every one expected Pinny to NEVER make mistakes, that is unresonable.
Are you trying to say the Spiro has NEVER cancelled a wager on a bad line!??!!?
Are you trying to say the Spiro has NEVER cancelled a wager on a bad line!??!!?
Spiros cancelled a bet on once.
I called the bet in to make sure it wasn't a bad line, the clerk checked with someone and said it was fine, later I got an e mail from Spiro saying it was a bad line and the bet was cancelled.
I don't have a problem with a book cancelling a bet on me as long as it's before the game starts.
I called the bet in to make sure it wasn't a bad line, the clerk checked with someone and said it was fine, later I got an e mail from Spiro saying it was a bad line and the bet was cancelled.
I don't have a problem with a book cancelling a bet on me as long as it's before the game starts.
Are you trying to say the Spiro has NEVER cancelled a wager on a bad line!??!!?
Yep, that's exactly what I'm saying
no where did i say you were to blame for bad line or the c/s issues.
I quoted that for you the first time around LOL. It's the part where you said we were 100% to blame for Pinny's disappointing svce.
Yep, that's exactly what I'm saying
no where did i say you were to blame for bad line or the c/s issues.
I quoted that for you the first time around LOL. It's the part where you said we were 100% to blame for Pinny's disappointing svce.
First off let me say I am surprised by the comments. People are actually questioning Pin, not riding them. But then again the usual suspects haven't posted anything. I guess even they see that their initial argumnets were blown out of the water byu this development. It also really isn't about the bet beign cancelled or not. But it was yet another example of them (pin) posting a line that was clearly wrong.
I have seen a half dozen or so the past couple weeks, ranging from a 120 line that should have been +120, to some Runline odds that were way off.
But with Pin what is a bad line? As I have mentione above, they have habitua;y been hanging those mid level split numbners one way where they hold their 8 cent line, and everyone else goes to 15, that gives them a "free" seven cents right there to hedge one way or the other. So a -160 fave somewhere might be -145 to 147 at Pin or a +140 dog might be +155 to +159. They cheat it the way they want without offering a true scalp, being even up or a penny or two below. I am sure OF can attest to this, or anyone else who golows the odds.
So that sort of goes along with what Everyga,blerdream said. How can you tell when the line is bad? I mean to some people 15 cents IS an erroneous line, but to Pin it is common place at the splits.
As for Kenny B's question, no one collected because it lost. But I would bet my left nut that a lot more money went on that game than that future play that was so controversial. I would also go so far to say that if they didn't take it down and it was at those odds all day it took more money than all their future bets combined. But I don't know I wasn't around that afternoon to check. But if they did leave it up, then it was pretty clear what they were doing. And I know they had to have gotten hammered on it. It would take a pretty ethcal guy not to bet a number that is 65-80 cents off.
I saw it, but at the time I didn't realize it was the ML, I actually thought it was the RL. But when I read what the guy wrote I realized what it was.
I am sure this won't be the last time we see a Pin slip up. Let's just hope that it is a low level guy who can't type or doesn't double check his data, and that it is the automated system that perpetuates the original slip up, and not a willful act on their part. Of course their is no way to tell, unles it becomes habitual and blatant.
I have seen a half dozen or so the past couple weeks, ranging from a 120 line that should have been +120, to some Runline odds that were way off.
But with Pin what is a bad line? As I have mentione above, they have habitua;y been hanging those mid level split numbners one way where they hold their 8 cent line, and everyone else goes to 15, that gives them a "free" seven cents right there to hedge one way or the other. So a -160 fave somewhere might be -145 to 147 at Pin or a +140 dog might be +155 to +159. They cheat it the way they want without offering a true scalp, being even up or a penny or two below. I am sure OF can attest to this, or anyone else who golows the odds.
So that sort of goes along with what Everyga,blerdream said. How can you tell when the line is bad? I mean to some people 15 cents IS an erroneous line, but to Pin it is common place at the splits.
As for Kenny B's question, no one collected because it lost. But I would bet my left nut that a lot more money went on that game than that future play that was so controversial. I would also go so far to say that if they didn't take it down and it was at those odds all day it took more money than all their future bets combined. But I don't know I wasn't around that afternoon to check. But if they did leave it up, then it was pretty clear what they were doing. And I know they had to have gotten hammered on it. It would take a pretty ethcal guy not to bet a number that is 65-80 cents off.
I saw it, but at the time I didn't realize it was the ML, I actually thought it was the RL. But when I read what the guy wrote I realized what it was.
I am sure this won't be the last time we see a Pin slip up. Let's just hope that it is a low level guy who can't type or doesn't double check his data, and that it is the automated system that perpetuates the original slip up, and not a willful act on their part. Of course their is no way to tell, unles it becomes habitual and blatant.
I remember a mistake line on a basketball game once, where on the moneyline one team was listed at like +1200 and the other was listed at around +1000....obvious mistake not putting a "minus" in front of the favorite....
I didn't even think about taking a shot because no way in hell was a bet on the favorite at plus money going to be honored, and rightly so...I thought about calling the book but I figured it would be corrected in a short time...
I figured if I did try, that the dog wager would be honored and the wager on the favorite would be cancelled, and thus in all likelihood I'd end up with a cancelled wager and a losing wager....
The mistake was quickly spotted and corrected as I refreshed the screen a number of times....later on in the day I checked out the final score of that game.....THE DOG WON OUTRIGHT.....I would have had a winning wager of around 10X and a cancelled wager....
I didn't even think about taking a shot because no way in hell was a bet on the favorite at plus money going to be honored, and rightly so...I thought about calling the book but I figured it would be corrected in a short time...
I figured if I did try, that the dog wager would be honored and the wager on the favorite would be cancelled, and thus in all likelihood I'd end up with a cancelled wager and a losing wager....
The mistake was quickly spotted and corrected as I refreshed the screen a number of times....later on in the day I checked out the final score of that game.....THE DOG WON OUTRIGHT.....I would have had a winning wager of around 10X and a cancelled wager....
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rogthedodger:
_Are you trying to say the Spiro has NEVER cancelled a wager on a bad line!??!!?_
>>Yep, that's exactly what I'm saying
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100% Bullshit.
_Are you trying to say the Spiro has NEVER cancelled a wager on a bad line!??!!?_
>>Yep, that's exactly what I'm saying
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100% Bullshit.
This has nothing to do with a mistake they made or anything, but yesterday when i went to reup there i was told to send my deposit to Costa Rica. I have deposited there 6 times in my dealings with them and every other time i was told to send my deposit to Suriname. Didn't matter or anything but just seemed out of the ordinary.
Kiss, that made me laugh...but you weren't one of the guys I was talking about. But it was funny nontheless.
Blaze, interesting. I have been lucky enough to not have to re up in a couple months. Actually requested a pay out today, as I said I would if I had enough correct sides with them. But I would be interested in knowing if they have moved some of their holdings around, be it financial or executive.
Anyone?
Blaze, interesting. I have been lucky enough to not have to re up in a couple months. Actually requested a pay out today, as I said I would if I had enough correct sides with them. But I would be interested in knowing if they have moved some of their holdings around, be it financial or executive.
Anyone?
shrink, lander and all the other usual suspects----this was the first I have ever heard of Spiros doing that. There's a first time for everything I suppose, but when Spiros repeatedly said "I book it, I pay it" I believed him until I heard otherwise. And I admitted as such after being proved wrong. Nice job piling on at the end though, classy as usual.
