Worst 2 books/ You pick em

[jwunderdog]

If David's story is true then there are only two conclusions you can draw. Royal slow pays large balances(which I think most of the forum knows), and David is a lying Scumbag that tried to extort $20000 from royal by using this forum. NOW ISN"T THAT NICE.:finger:

 

[PatrickMcIrish]

David, keep within the rules. You got a solid message and one that needs to be heard, you are doing no one any good by getting banned. Well no one other than the books who count on people eventually moving on and/or keeping quiet about the treatment they recieved. With some of these books being able to now buy there way in to these "watchdog sites" it's more important now than ever that people like yourself do not forget. Lot of turnover on these forums, always new people coming along that need to be informed about the track history of some of these places. MFG, Chuck and a few others do good stuff in this area as well. Good work man.

 

[royalfan]

Vwager is currently pissing me off. After two wagers my limits are down to $100. Neither was steam and one was a 500 and one 100. Unreal.

 

[David1]

Jwuderdog, if you knew the facts you wouldnt say such uninformed things. I was offered 20 grand if I would admit that I was lying about the tapes. I chose to pass on the 20 and continue dragging their name thru the mud. I lied for a good reason. I was cheated out of thousands and lied to for the second time by the same book. Go thru it before you judge. No it is not normal practice to slow pay winners. Legit books dont do it. They are patient and get their money back. Royal lies and cheats. Again, I was not the instigator. I was a model player there who never would have done anything wrong. If you think that makes me a scumbag and cheater then I suggest you keep playing at Royal. As for the post about foollowing the rules. I am trying. I agree with what you say and will never stop informing the folks. Hopefully the rx wont ban me for simply expressing my experiences and warning others. They have my number and they know to call me if Something needs to be discussed. No need to cut me off. Im not trying to hurt anyone that doesnt deserve it. Thanks

 

[TheShotDoctor]

I Need To Choose One Primary Book.......

I have 4 Right Now, but I want just one PRIMARY BOOK!

--BOOK-- --TIME WITH--

OLYMPIC..............7.5 YEARS..Like them, but been a victim of TD Theft 2 times

BET JAM...................5 YEAR.................Probably My Favorite

BODOG...................1.5 YEARS........Slow Lines...limited parlays.Halves & Q's

BETUSA....................2 Months...(Promo $$)...............Like it, but not sure.



HELP ME OUT HERE!

I know most will say Olympic, but after 2 cases of ID THEFT....very skeptic of the. Also...No Free Payouts....No REAL Good Bonuses!


Thanks----MR. NEWLYWED

 

[kermit16]

I've been playing at Royal for probably close to 10 years and I can prove it. I have never had any problem getting paid from them and I love their futures plus they offer free 1/2 point on Friday's including on and off of 7 and also on Totals.
I have to put BCN at the top of myworst list and I used to have an account at Jazz ! Worst software I ever had to deal with. I have never heard any slow pays at Jazz but I sure don't care. There are too many books out there with decent software. JMO

 

[ElJefe]

Worst two books out there

The worst two books out there:

1. BetOnSports.com (Yeah, I know they advertise here, but they are absolutely the worst ever)

2. Second place is a tie between all of the books that BetOnSports.com is associated with that pretend they are not part of BetOnSports but are.

 

[tooran]

English Sports Betting. Although I'm not sure they exist anymore, weren't they raided by Scotland Yard in Ireland or something?

 

[WEEKENDALKI]

ESB, not even close

 

[paftraft]

BML is the worst sportsbook ever - Royal was bad but an A+ compared to BML

 

[beenaround101]

esb worse by far still deal with many many other crooks out here

 

[Kevy]

:lolBIG: I was very unimpressed about a year ago when I tried out BCN. The first week they were a sponsor at the RX they had a lot of hype. They came in offering some unreal parlay and teaser payouts. That lasted about one weekend. Couldn't place a bet over night either. I think I only deposited like $200. So I could place a couple $100 parlays on there "7-1 =3-teamers". They had no moneylines either. I think I ended up just placing a couple of straights that lost, and I didn't re-up. I could see the writing on the wall.

Some Books give out T-Shirts with their logo.........
BCN gives out white flags with their logo on it.

:lolBIG:

 

[6nout]

Worst is Unibet. They pride themselves on calculating in house odds. They stick out +330 when the market is +240. I bet for the limit, 500, the price doesn't move. I wait 30 minutes, price is still there, i bet another 500, it says the bet needs to be processed for approval. I wait another 30 mins and check account, the bet is there, but with red lines through everything, sayin bet refused. I get up the next morning and the price is now +298. I bet it for 500 again, and same as before, bet is refused and shows in my account with red lines through it. And these guys think they're the new wave of sports betting.

 

[MoneyManager]

Mr.Newlywed

You need Pinny or/and Hollywood in the mix. They do offer incentives every now and then but that really does not matter ---- you save far more on juice than you pick up on bonuses. ( refer: gambling 101 ) Safety of funds is really the issue if / when you win and want to pick up the fruits of your labor.

 

[REDEYE]

Basically I was a solid big bettor there for about 6 months . I wired them 20 grand 3 times. Finally after sending the last 20 grand, I won sreious money. When I asked to get paid I was lied to for about 2 months =. They kept telling me my money was on the way. They never sent it. All the while Im betting and losing. Finally they tell me they will only send me 10 grand a week. I was owed 50 grand. I was originally told there was no limit on how much I could receive at once. I was upset but did not know about this forum. I got impatient when I was told that I would have to wait until after the season to get paid. I reversed my payouts and lost. I then made false claims that they concocted tapes to show I reversed payouts. I was wrong but wanted to get them back. They also slow paid me in 2000 and promised me it would not happen again. This place isa a joke and has no ethics. Even when I was playing there they would play games and lie on a daily basis. Giving wrong lines on readbacks and soforth. Dont play here.mThey are smooth talkers. Richard and Kevin will lie if needed. Any serious winners wont be tolerated. Thanks for asking. Moderators: Im just answering his question. Is that ok. Im not being sneaky am I? Thanks for asking!

I would tend to Put Royal on my Best shops not worst. BCN and My Bookie on my worst

 

[David1]

Redeye is an employee of Royal. Royal pays him to post positive things about this known fraud of a book. Anyone who does business with a place that admits to slow paying winners and has a crook for an owner by the name of Tej who has closed up shops in the past and ran with the money, all in the name of "you get a free half pont and you can buy points off of 7", is either a complete moron os is an employee of the crooked book. Take your pick. Any player that wins a significant amount of money at Royal has had problems. Its not just getting slow paid, which by the way is not normal practice. Its being lied to about when your money will arrive and when if ever Royal even processed your request. In my case, Royal took the funds from my account and told me I would receive one check a day in 5-7 days. As it turned out, Royal never even sent the first check. Instead they had Richard lie for 2 months by telling me everytime I would call that I could get my Fed Ex # on Wednesday then Friday Then, you get the picture, NEVER, Royal isnt paying. And guys like Redeye and Kermit come in to say that Royal is a good book. Good for what? What the hell does a half a point do for you when they dont even pay people dummy!Everyone knows it except these guys? I think not. They are employees. No doubt. Hey Clipjoint, I thought you said everyone already knows not to do business with Royal. This is why I keep coming in here to spread the word about this fraud book. There is always some dope who just cares about half points and bonuses. It makes no difference if they pay. These guys just want action. Not in it to win. How else do you explain guys sending this place that knowingly and ADMITTEDLY either slow pays players or offers them huge bonuses to cancel their payouts, money. I cant believe that a guy would do business with known crooks just so they can get a free half point. Thats awsome Redeye and Kermit! Just imagine what you can get with that 9 dollars that is never coming!

 

[assassin]

Vwager is currently pissing me off. After two wagers my limits are down to $100. Neither was steam and one was a 500 and one 100. Unreal.

They did that to me on prop bets. Instead of $500 limits they all became undifined and ranged from $100-$200.
Royal actually took my limts down to $50.

 

[David1]

Royal did the same thing to me back in 2000. Once I started to win, they changed my limit of betting 10,000 teasers down to 100 dollars. That would be fine if they would then pay me. At this point they went on lying and slow paying me for like 6 months. This was when Scotty from Bet Jamaica was still there. You gotta give Scotty some credit for not wanting to work for a bunch of lying, cheating crooks anymore. He now is with a legitimate operation in Bet Jam. Royal never changed in that they promised to never do this again since now they were under new ownership. Wrong. They did it again. Lied and cheated me out of thousands of dollars just a couple of months ago. Dont flush your money down the toilet and deposit it here= at Royal.

 

[David1]

Thanks guys

 

[REDEYE]

Redeye is an employee of Royal. Royal pays him to post positive things about this known fraud of a book. Anyone who does business with a place that admits to slow paying winners and has a crook for an owner by the name of Tej who has closed up shops in the past and ran with the money, all in the name of "you get a free half pont and you can buy points off of 7", is either a complete moron os is an employee of the crooked book. Take your pick. Any player that wins a significant amount of money at Royal has had problems. Its not just getting slow paid, which by the way is not normal practice. Its being lied to about when your money will arrive and when if ever Royal even processed your request. In my case, Royal took the funds from my account and told me I would receive one check a day in 5-7 days. As it turned out, Royal never even sent the first check. Instead they had Richard lie for 2 months by telling me everytime I would call that I could get my Fed Ex # on Wednesday then Friday Then, you get the picture, NEVER, Royal isnt paying. And guys like Redeye and Kermit come in to say that Royal is a good book. Good for what? What the hell does a half a point do for you when they dont even pay people dummy!Everyone knows it except these guys? I think not. They are employees. No doubt. Hey Clipjoint, I thought you said everyone already knows not to do business with Royal. This is why I keep coming in here to spread the word about this fraud book. There is always some dope who just cares about half points and bonuses. It makes no difference if they pay. These guys just want action. Not in it to win. How else do you explain guys sending this place that knowingly and ADMITTEDLY either slow pays players or offers them huge bonuses to cancel their payouts, money. I cant believe that a guy would do business with known crooks just so they can get a free half point. Thats awsome Redeye and Kermit! Just imagine what you can get with that 9 dollars that is never coming!

I am not a employee of Royal, you stupid fuck'n knucklhead.And I haven't collected a bonus from them in along time. I just state the facts from my perspective. I have always been paid quickly, including last week. They bailed me out of Aces a few years ago and I feel loyal to that. I like their site , their different props,lines, and half point special. What do you want me to do lie about my experience their. I can't make up something that hasn't happened to just be on your side of things.I have been treated good, thats a fact. One last thing, I don't care about your story. Who really gives a shit about it anymore. Show up to the bash next year and tell me to my face I'm a employee of Royal. Fuck'n dare you to !