One could argue that the piercing itself could be classified as a form of self-mutilation. Also, how in the hell is this a violation of her civil rights? It also doesn't matter what the TSA worker thinks about removing the nipple ring. I would venture to say they are supposed to follow certain rules as how to do their jobs.
I have an idea - if you want to fly with metal, buy your own fucking plane.
Otherwise, take the shit off.
I fly almost every day and evey damn time, I take my watch, blackberry, and keys and put them in my computer bag as I take my computer and shoes out/off... It's not that hard.
And don't get me started on how stupid people are at the airport. I swear if you set the metal detector off, they should make you wait for the next flight. In Chicago, at least now they have a 10 minute or so penalty box for morons who think metal wont set off the detector.
Sean
Otherwise, take the shit off.
I fly almost every day and evey damn time, I take my watch, blackberry, and keys and put them in my computer bag as I take my computer and shoes out/off... It's not that hard.
And don't get me started on how stupid people are at the airport. I swear if you set the metal detector off, they should make you wait for the next flight. In Chicago, at least now they have a 10 minute or so penalty box for morons who think metal wont set off the detector.
Sean
Not necessarily. It depends on two things. How much metal one is wearing and how sensitive the metal detector is set to.
It is my understanding that nipple rings often go undetected at the check point.
Irregardless, this whole thing is ridiculous. Imagine the conversation.
What metal do you have under your shirt?
That would be my nipple rings.
You'll need to take those off.
Why?
You just have to.
Um, why is that?
That's our policy.
Woman takes off rings and goes thru metal detector. Meanwhile they send the suspicious rings thru the x-ray. They turn out not to be a bomb or gun.
Woman retrieves her rings and goes to bathroom to re-insert.
TSA keeping us safe, again.
TSA motto:
"No whole is too tight and no ring is too small for us to find a terrorist."
I never once inferred that her "civil rights" were being violated.
If one elects to fly passenger airlines within the USA, you consent to being searched and also consent to whatever humiliating and irrelevant (to true security) procedure that the airline and or the FAA may demand.
I was merely taking issue with suggestions that the broad in question was "brain dead" when it's equally reasonable to state that the bulk of TSA restrictions are likewise brain-dead in both their origin and their ultimate application.
I don't know how common nipple rings are, or what is involved in their removal ( pliers ?). I'll guess you remove them every so often and sterilize them or something ?
Say 1 in 1,000 women routinely where them ( probably a lot more) then this must come up like daily. I'd think the norm would be an explanation, maybe a viewing by a female officer ?
The bellybutton ring is certainly common, and they let her keep that in ! I'm sure many fly with that.
It seems the policy is inconsistent.
Sean does have a good point about removing it, to make things quicker.
I just think they are looking at the wrong stuff, there are probably much more serious security issues than these.
Say 1 in 1,000 women routinely where them ( probably a lot more) then this must come up like daily. I'd think the norm would be an explanation, maybe a viewing by a female officer ?
The bellybutton ring is certainly common, and they let her keep that in ! I'm sure many fly with that.
It seems the policy is inconsistent.
Sean does have a good point about removing it, to make things quicker.
I just think they are looking at the wrong stuff, there are probably much more serious security issues than these.
shes being a **** and got what she deserved
i disagree with making people wait for the next flight if the alarm goes off- if they are acting stupid send their asses home.I know personally Ive had a digitial camera in a cargo pocket that I forgot about. Big deal the alarm when off and I took it out.
i disagree with making people wait for the next flight if the alarm goes off- if they are acting stupid send their asses home.I know personally Ive had a digitial camera in a cargo pocket that I forgot about. Big deal the alarm when off and I took it out.
Then the guy with the pierced penis can go to the bathroom and remove the piercing. This is not rocket science. It's not like you show up to a bar and find out there is a metal detector at the front door. Unless you are retarded, you know that there is a metal detector at the airport.
Thus you take off shit like your cell phone, watch, belt, shoes, jewelry, etc to go through it.
The reason security takes so damn long is about every third person sets the damn thing off. It's unbelieveable. Fucking rats and dogs could learn how to go through a metal detector.
I was so glad when I finally go to platinum status or whatever they call it last year. Most big airports have a separate line or security gate, and guess what, people who fly a lot have learned not to set the damn detector off.
This is not rocket science. THERE ARE ONLY BIG SIGNS ALL OVER SAYING TAKE OFF ALL METAL. How dumb must you then be to have a metal watch on at the detector. I swear they should just shoot people who set the damn thing off 3 trips in a row and our prison populations would be cut in half over time.
And here were the ladies options:
1. Fly private jet - they don't screen you.2
2. Remove the piercings.
3. Leave the airport and not fly.
We do not have a god given right to board a plane unless we own the damn plane.
Sean
Thus you take off shit like your cell phone, watch, belt, shoes, jewelry, etc to go through it.
The reason security takes so damn long is about every third person sets the damn thing off. It's unbelieveable. Fucking rats and dogs could learn how to go through a metal detector.
I was so glad when I finally go to platinum status or whatever they call it last year. Most big airports have a separate line or security gate, and guess what, people who fly a lot have learned not to set the damn detector off.
This is not rocket science. THERE ARE ONLY BIG SIGNS ALL OVER SAYING TAKE OFF ALL METAL. How dumb must you then be to have a metal watch on at the detector. I swear they should just shoot people who set the damn thing off 3 trips in a row and our prison populations would be cut in half over time.
And here were the ladies options:
1. Fly private jet - they don't screen you.2
2. Remove the piercings.
3. Leave the airport and not fly.
We do not have a god given right to board a plane unless we own the damn plane.
Sean
This thread reminds me of a time in London - never talk about bras at security in London
In London, possibly the only worse airport than LAX for flying... they have special conveyor belts for you to put your shoes on - you must even take shoes out of your carryons.
Well, I went to London for 24 hours and only took a carry on, but Itook two pairs of shoes -one biz and one pair of comfy sandals for the flight. What a mistake. TSA or whatever they are - could not understand the need for two pairs of shoes and no checked luggage. We had a 20 minute discussion about my terrifying sandals.
Under my breath, I muttered, I sure wish the next terrorist tries to light her bra on fire. Security would be a hell of a lot more fun.
I got the full pat down and interrogation. Ended up missing my flight and taking one 3 hours later. Never been back either - I hate that airport. Although I need to go back in July...
In London, possibly the only worse airport than LAX for flying... they have special conveyor belts for you to put your shoes on - you must even take shoes out of your carryons.
Well, I went to London for 24 hours and only took a carry on, but Itook two pairs of shoes -one biz and one pair of comfy sandals for the flight. What a mistake. TSA or whatever they are - could not understand the need for two pairs of shoes and no checked luggage. We had a 20 minute discussion about my terrifying sandals.
Under my breath, I muttered, I sure wish the next terrorist tries to light her bra on fire. Security would be a hell of a lot more fun.
I got the full pat down and interrogation. Ended up missing my flight and taking one 3 hours later. Never been back either - I hate that airport. Although I need to go back in July...
