Animals have language, they problem solve (have you ever seen any animal in it's natural habitat?) As for being self aware I'm not sure that you or anyone else could really be qualified to say what goes on in an animals mind. Self aware is a man made term that really means nothing. To know that we are an individual, to know that we exist? Do we think that an animal thinks he is every animal? Why would they fight with other animals then? As for emotion animals have that too, they get scared, angry, lonely, sad. So that is pretty much not a reason. As for abstract reasoning, yet another term that really means nothing. Kind of a word that we made up to make ourselves feel smart. But to touch on it, what about a child or retarded person? Are they capable of abstract reasoning? And again this gets into the intelligence issue that I've gone over before. I'll ask again, does the dumbest person alive have the lowest intelligence level needed to be the superior species? Did I get everything? I love how you ended your post with the fact of "we rule the planet, period" very funny how you are qualified to make that choice. I've pretty much taken apart every argument that you've come up with. So unless you have anymore or any ways to counter what I've said that I say that my point is proven.
Animals have language, they problem solve (have you ever seen any animal in it's natural habitat?) As for being self aware I'm not sure that you or anyone else could really be qualified to say what goes on in an animals mind. Self aware is a man made term that really means nothing. To know that we are an individual, to know that we exist? Do we think that an animal thinks he is every animal? Why would they fight with other animals then? As for emotion animals have that too, they get scared, angry, lonely, sad. So that is pretty much not a reason. As for abstract reasoning, yet another term that really means nothing. Kind of a word that we made up to make ourselves feel smart. But to touch on it, what about a child or retarded person? Are they capable of abstract reasoning? And again this gets into the intelligence issue that I've gone over before. I'll ask again, does the dumbest person alive have the lowest intelligence level needed to be the superior species? Did I get everything? I love how you ended your post with the fact of "we rule the planet, period" very funny how you are qualified to make that choice. I've pretty much taken apart every argument that you've come up with. So unless you have anymore or any ways to counter what I've said that I say that my point is proven.
If I'm way out there I'd love to hear your reasons for why humans are superior to animals. I'm sure if the internet was around in 1840 this same conversation would have been had about why blacks are the same as whites. Guess what sheep? You guys would be the ones saying that blacks are not equal to whites, fact. Don't dare say otherwise because society tells you that animals are lesser and you guys fall for it without a clue or reason why and back then they would have told you that blacks were lesser and without a doubt in anyones mind you guys would have fallen for it. I need to delve into the mind (or lack there of) of the robot.
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The thing you guys don't realize is this. You are discriminating by species. You are saying that because we are human that makes us better. Do you not realize that this is no different than a man being better simply because he's a man or white being better just because he is white? An old person is superior because they are old, I could go on and on. Get this through your heads SOCIETY TELLS YOU THAT ANIMALS ARE INFERIOR. That is the ONLY reason you guys feel like this. Don't you want to be a free thinker that comes up with your own ideas and feelings? Do you really want to be that group that gets looked down upon in history books. We look at the slave owners with disgust and you will be the slave owner. I'm one ahead of my times. This kind of thinking scares you. You can't imagine thinking outside of the status quo, it scares you, you need reassurance from others that you are right. That is all that keeps you going. Sad and pathetic.
So if I build a gun and shoot you I'm superior?
hno: How many people that shoot animals build their own guns? Find out that number for me.You guys don't want to admit that I'm right because it would change your whole life. Change is not what you want, you'd rather continue on the wrong path than better yourself and the world. Kind of sounds like your stance on America. This is all coming full circle now. Keeping the wrong thing is easier than working to get the right thing. So you are too lazy to make things better. I have now figured out the right wing mind. Lazy.
You mean not putting up the grand. If I remember correctly he was the one who put his money where his mouth is. This is a sport betting forum you know? If you don’t have the money just say so. You running your mouth and challenging all comers is a dead give away. No thanks, call a pussy but I only debate face to face. I don’t let internet muscles do the taking for me. :howdy:
Debate could be done fact to face, I've done it with some supposed people tops in their field, or done over a forum. You are just afraid because you've seen Willie and JoeC throw their best at me and have me dismantle each and every word. All the can do is respond with laughing symbols in an attempt to devalue what I've said.
As for Zit wanting to debate for money.
A. There would be no way to determine a winner. Most of this forum is right wing so votes wouldn't be fair.
B. There is no way I'm trusting some loser named Zit to pay up when I would win. As for giving the money to a mod I'm not sending my money to a person I've never met nor do I even know who they are.
The only logical thing to do would be to just debate. But he is too afraid and you know it, but you are too stupid to admit it. I would take on any person, there just are not any takers.
The funny thing is that if I did this to one of your posts you'd be calling me out saying that I don't have any argument. So I'll just go off of what you would say. You are a clueless dumbass and have no argument. I tore apart your pathetic excuse of a post. I now own two bitches, you and Willie. You guys can take turns kissing my ass. Neither of you come close to giving me any competition. I'm bored.
You did not "dismantle each and every word" -- in fact, you didn't refute a single point I made. Child-like reasoning doesn't count.
Animals have no way of improving their standard of living or changing their surroundings -- humans can. Animals can't fly to the moon-- humans can. Animals are not self-aware and can consciously override their instincts, humans can. Animals never evolve -- humans are evolving constantly.
Kick your dog till your heart's content -- he'll still love you and lick you. For all intents and purposes, animals are biological robots -- and so are you.
Animals have no way of improving their standard of living or changing their surroundings -- humans can. Animals can't fly to the moon-- humans can. Animals are not self-aware and can consciously override their instincts, humans can. Animals never evolve -- humans are evolving constantly.
Kick your dog till your heart's content -- he'll still love you and lick you. For all intents and purposes, animals are biological robots -- and so are you.
First off I already took apart the self aware part. Nice job reading.
You call improving our lives flying to the moon? We've improved our surroundings??
hno: We're destroying the earth that we all inhabit. We build large houses and buildings. That is improvement? We are improving our standards by what, television, cars what? An animal does the same thing we do on a day to day basis. They work, have fun, lounge around. We have money that we work for to pay for shelter and food and they work on getting their own food and shelter. The only difference is that we use a middle man. We can override our instincts but all you guys post picture after picture of naked women, you eat, get angry, sad. Sounds a lot like an animal. Except they don't need to justify their actions. We go by our instincts more than anything else. We on occasion deny our instincts which has caused more harm then good. And a dog will not love you if you kick him over and over. Dogs become angry and vicious from that kind of abuse.Another point, flying to the moon and all that comes with the intelligence issue that I took apart. You just reword the same old arguments over and over. Answer me this, are the people able to build ships to take us to the moon, are they superior to the person who can't? This logic leaves room wide open for us to oppress others because we are superior. Because of my superior intelligence over you am I allowed to kill you?
Sounds like you have a hardon for some animals. When are you getting married to Mr. Ed?
You guys are either 8 years old, have the mentality of an 8 year old or get your ideas from an 8 year old.
Besides, don't you righties always call feminists, feminazis? So if the left stands up for women that must mean that we like women? I'm bored with the lack of smart people on this forum. I need a challenge. PLEASE!!!
You're absolutely insane on this and are neurotic. I'm sorry but we are the greater species. It is obvious by what we create. Especially one Continent in particular.
