Will Peyton Manning retire this year?

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Champ maybe top 10, but best all time? Lol noooo
 

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I don't know what happened, somebody must have been hurt when Quentin Jammer was playing CB. He got torched.
 

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I can tell you don't actually watch the guy. Stuck with the other blind haters in 2003 spurting out bullshit. None of them tackle better than Bailey, Bailey hits like a LB. You just don't hear about it. Boils down to i don't know but i don't think it's true vs i've seen it with my own eyes. you're gambling and guessing and being nostalgic. i've seen it. you're an idiot. fact.
 

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What's amazing is that Champ played with Darrel Green before Denver robbed them in the Portis trade.
 

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I think it fair to rate Champ as a top 10 all time, this list does.

But the idea that he is better than Rod Woodson or Deion is silly.

I've seen Deion, Green, Champ, and Woodson in person. Champ is not as good as those players. But he's certainly great in his era.
 

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What's amazing is that Champ played with Darrel Green before Denver robbed them in the Portis trade.

Yep. What an absurd trade.

I was at some of those Redskins games while this silly bozo screaming at me was pretending there wasn't an Internet back in 1999...
 

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^Everything I've said still stands. I've seen your posts before, just shut up about football LOL. It's not your deal kid. I've described Champ, all you've done (until this prompting) is blurt out nothing. Judging from how horrible everyone here knows football you'd think these pretend expert opinions would dissolve as fast as they're made on a whim.
 

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I think it fair to rate Champ as a top 10 all time, this list does.

But the idea that he is better than Rod Woodson or Deion is silly.

I've seen Deion, Green, Champ, and Woodson in person. Champ is not as good as those players. But he's certainly great in his era.

I think Champ is as good as Green, Deion was the best cover corner there ever was but he would not tackle much. Woodson and Champ were better tacklers.
 

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Yep. What an absurd trade.

I was at some of those Redskins games while this silly bozo screaming at me was pretending there wasn't an Internet back in 1999...
Look at this retard standing an inch from the tree trying to see the forest LOL. I meant the 70s, 80s. Look at you trying to turn this into a micro-argument about when the internet was invented. Just another kid trying to argue with me who will lose.
 

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Oh, ok.

Well, you should have said that.

Too bad it appears English is your 2nd language.
Extreme specificity is required when the person you're interacting with has shit for brains. Why in the fuck would I be talking about the absolute instant the internet was invented? Ugh this is boring. I feel like I took a time machine back 12 years to when people dissected everything to form pointless micro-arguments. I dunno why I come here for football anyway.
 

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There's plenty of east coast biased that gets cooked into these things Like people that think Jon Lynch was better than Steve Atwater are sadly mistaken.
 

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^Everything I've said still stands. I've seen your posts before, just shut up about football LOL. It's not your deal kid. I've described Champ, all you've done (until this prompting) is blurt out nothing. Judging from how horrible everyone here knows football you'd think these pretend expert opinions would dissolve as fast as they're made on a whim.

Actually, nothing you said stands all considering Green, Woodson and Deion were all faster than Champ; Woodson has 19 more interceptions than Champ (in 23 more games played), and Deion has 1 more in 27 fewer games played, and there isn't a single football writer or commentator voting for the Pro Football HOF who would suggest with a straight face that Champ Bailey is the best tackling corner of all time.

It is a laughable suggestion. Which is why you're here pretending you're some wise old sage and others are "kids"

I've seen your posts, you don't know football. LOL
 

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My point is that the Broncos are not represented enough in the HOF, but Bailey will be a 1st ballot no doubt. You can debate about who was better all you want and I think I have a valid argument that Atwater was better than Lynch, for those old enough that watched them both play. Lynch will prob get in though.
 

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