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<header class="visible-md visible-lg" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(53, 53, 53); font-family: Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, San-serif;">8 Reasons Why You Shouldn’t Be A Vegetarian.



</header>Vegetarianism has been around for a long time, finding favor with many people, including Pythagoras clear back around 580 B.C. It’s been presented as one of the most healthy diets around, including being touted by the Egyptians to the point of abstaining from meat and animal clothing due to karmic beliefs. The vegetarian society (vegsoc.org) defines vegetarianism as:
“Someone who lives on a diet of grains, pulses, nuts, seeds, vegetables and fruits with, or without, the use of dairy products and eggs. A vegetarian does not eat any meat, poultry, game, fish, shellfish* or by-products of slaughter.”
Unfortunately, even though vegetarianism is still popular today, there are some issues you might want to be aware of before you say good-bye to meat forever. Whether you are a current vegetarian, or contemplating making a shift, keep in mind these 8 things to keep yourself healthy.
1. You could suffer from B12 vitamin deficiency.

The B vitamins are especially important for stress management, adrenal health, and brain function. Vegetarians in particularly are at risk for B12 deficiency. Vitamin B12 is attached to the protein in animal products and without enough B12 you can suffer from depression, fatigue, and an inability to concentrate.
Due to its attachment to animal proteins, B12 is the hardest for vegetarians to obtain when they don’t eat dairy or eggs in their diet. This essential little vitamin can be found in some algae and has been added to some yeast, but research doesn’t currently provide enough information to say whether or not these forms of B12 are of good quality and can provide adequate supplementation.
The body is unable to make this vitamin, meaning it has to be taken in through food or supplementation. Essential for making red blood cells, DNA, nerves and various other function in the body, a Harvard Health Medical report in January of 2013 found symptoms of a B12 deficiency can present in sneaky ways including depression, paranoia, delusion, and loss of taste and smell.
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According to a CBS Atlanta report, vegetarians suffered from a higher rate of anxiety and depression than their counterparts. Read the full report here. Depression and/or anxiety can be a result of many possible deficiencies including essential vitamins and amino acids you can find only in meat products, including Omega-3s from wild caught salmon.
Without the correct supplementation and proper understanding of diet, including the importance of micro and macro nutrients, depression and anxiety can become a serious problem, bringing down the overall health and well-being of vegetarians.
Even though reports on health and lifestyle show vegetarians have a lower BMI and lower consumption of alcohol and drugs, it also shows they suffer from more chronic illnesses and more visits to the doctor than their meat eating counterparts.
3. You could suffer from excessive weight gain

When you go vegetarian it opens up a lot of food, but just because there isn’t any meat in front of you, it doesn’t mean it’s necessary healthy. Though pizza and beer technically fall under the vegetarian diet, it’s not a healthy choice for your waist line.
Just because being a vegetarian is associated with a healthier lifestyle in many cases, doesn’t mean it’s always true. Making bread and pasta your staples and not understanding where your protein sources should be coming from, can pack on body fat, which increases your chances of health issues such as diabetes and chronic inflammation.
If the choice to go vegetarian happens on a whim without the proper understanding of food control, portion, and nutritionally dense alternatives you can find yourself reaching for vegetarian foods, which could cause serious problems down the road. Nuts are a good example, but just because something is touted as healthy, it doesn’t mean, your should eat it in excess.
Eating too many calories in fat will still cause you to gain weight. Eating too many calories in carbs will cause you to gain weight. Eating too many calories in protein will cause you to gain weight. See a pattern here? Not to mention you’ll miss out on important nutrients the body needs by over-eating in one area and under-eating in another. Re-read number 2.

4. You could have a higher risk of heart disease

Eating plenty of fruits and vegetables should be a goal we all strive for, but when you cut out meat, you also cut out what is known as complete protein, which you find in animal by-products. Complete means more than just the essential amino acids, it means those amino acids contain dietary sulfur. Without enough dietary sulfur, which is found almost exclusively in fish and pasture feed grass beef, the body will struggle with the biological activities of both protein and enzymes.
The effects cascade downward, effecting bones, joints, tissues, and even metabolic issues. In short, a low intake of sulfur associated with a vegetarian diet can result in high blood levels of homocysteine, which may lead to blood clots in your arteries, blood clots raise your risk of stroke and heart attack. To read the full report click here.

5. You could suffer from low cholesterol

I know, at first you’re thinking, wait, low cholesterol is a good thing. Yes, it is, when it’s LDL cholesterol, which you get from eating an unhealthy diet, but low HDL (good cholesterol) can cause serious health issues. HDL, according to the mayo clinic, is in every cell in our body and can help fend off heart disease, not enough of it though, and too much LDL can go the other way, will be building up plaque in the arteries and leading to heart disease.
Cholesterol, the good kind, is actually vitally important to the making of every steroid hormone in the body! There are six, and without cholesterol the body is unable to convert hormones, and it can cause damage in the endocrine system. Here is a great article showing how cholesterol is important to the making of your hormones.
A vegetarian without a balanced diet, meaning enough protein, enough veggies, and enough good fats, could disrupt his or her adrenals, which are directly connected to the endocrine system and the body’s ability to make and synthesize the hormones your body needs. The six major hormones in the body help do everything from metabolizing carbohydrates, to the electrolyte balance, to making sure if you’re a woman you can carry a healthy baby through pregnancy.
6. You could suffer from lower bone density and osteoporosis.

Osteoporosis, the disease where the bones get thinner, weaker, and fractures become a high risk with day to day movements. It’s often associated with the older generation, but your risk for osteoporosis increases with a lower bone density. Bone density can be directly related to diet and lifestyle, along with many other factors.
When it comes to eating a vegetarian diet it’s possible to miss getting enough of the right nutrients, causing the bones to begin to break down. If your vegetarian diet isn’t balanced, allowing you the correct nutrients, but also the means to absorb the correct nutrients, your body could begin to break down within the very structure which supports you and allows you to live a healthy lifestyle.
Recently Professor Tuan Nguyen of Sydney’s Garvan Institute of Medical Research led a review of both Australian and Vietnamese research around the bone density of vegetarian versus their meat eating counterparts. Helping Professor Nguyen was Dr. Ho-Pham Thuc Lan from Pham Ngoc Thac University of Medicine in Vietnam. The review was designed to sort though years of research surrounded by discrepancies and inadequate clinical data.
At the end of the review, with vegetarianism rising to around 5% of the populace in the western continents, and with wide spread osteoporosis reports – 2 million in Australia and closer to 54 million in America – the decrease in bone density of vegetarians is a serious issue which needs to be addressed, if you’ve cut meat and animal by-products out of your life.
7. You could be at a higher risk for colorectal cancer

Cancer seems to be running rampant through America, and it’s within everyone’s best interest to do all they can to keep their body healthy and happy to prevent cancer from finding a place to grow. In most studies it’s been found vegetarians are at lower risk for cancer, but a European Oxford study with over 63 thousand men and women in the United Kingdom found the risk for colorectal cancer higher in vegetarians than in meat-eaters.
Extra care needs to be taken when establishing a diet to ensure the body is receiving and able to up take all the important nutritional benefits and requirements from food.
8. You could end up eating more processed food

Depending on how deep you choose to go as a vegetarian, it could create the need to substitute a lot of food and recipe ingredients in your diet, but what happens when you cut out meat, eggs, and dairy and your recipe calls for meat, eggs, and/or dairy? You have to end up using a “healthy” vegetarian alternative which include stabilizers, thickeners, and various other ingredients you can’t pronounce.
Lauren from Empowered Substance puts it into a great perspective with her comparison of Earth Balance, a vegetarian approved butter replacement compared to butter. She points out the ingredients in Earth Balance consist of: Palm fruit oil, canola oil, safflower oil, flax oil, olive oil, salt, natural flavor, pea protein, sunflower lecithin, lactic acid, annatto color. Meanwhile, the ingredient list in butter, is much shorter. It’s butter.
That’s only one example. To appeal to the vegetarian lifestyle food manufacturers have found alternatives which fall under vegetarian, but aren’t necessarily healthy for you. Consider baked goods, which though vegetarian can be filled with more sugars and binders than regular baked goods with diary products. It’s the same with vegetarian items like mac and cheese, without using real cheese you may just be getting oil and thickeners, without even the smallest amount of nutritional value.
The reality is, most vegetarian substitutes contain the same junky alternatives which even meat eaters should be avoiding to remain happy and healthy.
On one final note, whichever lifestyle you choose to work with, remember anything in excess – including protein and animal by products – isn’t healthy for the body. It takes a wide spectrum of food and nutrients to keep the beautiful body you travel around in all day running in prime condition.
 

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I've had two vegan coworkers over the last couple years and they both look sickly and weak and have a greyish tinge to their complexion.

Hell the one guy would call my buddy over to his department because he can't lift a box of paper lol.

i will stick to having burgers and steak occasionally instead of veggie patties.
 
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I'm all about a healthy diet, and I tend to eat lean meat moderately. But once in a while, a nice juicy rib-eye steak just hits the spot.

It's the attitude of these fucking vegans that gets on my nerves.

 

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I'm all about a healthy diet, and I tend to eat lean meat moderately. But once in a while, a nice juicy rib-eye steak just hits the spot.

It's the attitude of these fucking vegans that gets on my nerves.



Zit, you're like a woman lol. Always think your right lol. All your little studies and research are to fit your agenda. Most the shit you copy and paste(cause thats all you really do) is not even accurate. Just look at who sponsors those studies. Formulate your own opinion. You also like to tie everything negative to liberals. You also think "God" put animals on this planet for us to eat. Do also think earth is 6,000 years old? If you want to make excuses to feel better morally than so be it. If that's how you sleep peacefully at night who am I to argue.
 

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I've had two vegan coworkers over the last couple years and they both look sickly and weak and have a greyish tinge to their complexion.

Hell the one guy would call my buddy over to his department because he can't lift a box of paper lol.

i will stick to having burgers and steak occasionally instead of veggie patties.


I dont eat "fake" meat. For every 2 people like that I'll give you 10 that are fat and out of shape. can't even walk up a flight of stairspopcorn-eatinggif
 

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No way I could get 180 to 220 grams of protein without meat.
Impossible .

not gonna eat a gallon of nuts everyday

now you're just exaggerating it. Chop you don't even absorb most of that animal protein lol. You don't need as much as you think.
 

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Did you start this thread with the purpose of just telling us meat is bad and to argue with everyone?
 

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Hey Shub, I'm curious here . Didn't you go Vegan due to diabetes? I could be wrong but thought I remember that being the reason.
 

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Hey Shub, I'm curious here . Didn't you go Vegan due to diabetes? I could be wrong but thought I remember that being the reason.


I intially did for health reasons yes. Then morals and ethics came into play.
 

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Im trying help you and everyone else

Did any of us ask you for help? I'm going to eat a sirloin tonight just for you.

Maybe I should start a thread telling everyone the vegan diet is bad and tell you I'm trying to help you out?
 

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Grateful Dead came to Hartford many years back, happened to be in a diner filled with Dead Heads. One dude was telling everyone else what to eat and not eat, giving people a hard time about what they had on their plates. A little while later, this same loud mouthed dude was talking about how he hasn't seen his wife and kids in over six months (because he was following a band around the country). He said he couldn't wait to see them next week, because he was going to pick them up in Buffalo and take them to the show in Toronto. You just can't make this type of idiocy up, these people telling other people how to live life.

It's funny how certain people commit the very transgressions they often complain about. Atheists for example tend to impose their religious beliefs (there is no god) on other people, always telling them what to believe in. But they start kicking and screaming if you did such to them.

I can't even comprehend why somebody would REPEATEDLY tell other people what to eat, all so fucking weird (and fruitless) to me.
 

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I don't understand how anyone can say eating a dead rotting carcass is good for you. There is no defense. someone has to be a voice for the poor animals.
 

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To each is own. I'm not telling anyone what to do or eat. Im just stating facts not opinions.
 

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Shub, I'm curious, do you take multivitamins or any types of supplements along with being vegan? You're starving your body of B12, creatine and omega-3's otherwise.
 

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