Batistuta....holy sh*t...thats alot of writing...if don't mind me asking do you write for a living or have some kind of writing type job...it would take me forever to write that, much less that informative or organized!!!!! At first I thought it was copied but could see not...
Cedar - lol - that was an essay from a think tank that I participated on.
I do write quite a bit in my profession but am not a writer, although I have many published articles and essays.
Im just an ordinary guy trying to pick winners in an unusual profession. Thanks for the compliment, Im proud of the research done in this essay and am glad you found it interesting.
I do write quite a bit in my profession but am not a writer, although I have many published articles and essays.
Im just an ordinary guy trying to pick winners in an unusual profession. Thanks for the compliment, Im proud of the research done in this essay and am glad you found it interesting.
i have a 55 gallon fish tank. in it i have several species of "cichlids". these fish are aggressive and you can only keep cichlids in the tank with other cichlids...if you tried to put goldfish in there, they would last about 1/2 hour.
anyway, there are cichlids from central america, south america and africa. now the africans are the smallest of the three but by far the most aggressive.
in fact, if your tank is not big enough and you put an african cichlid in with south american cichlids that are twice the african's size, you will have a dead south american cichlid in a couple of days.
this is not racism, bigotry or narrow-mindedness...this is fact.
you put the very best high school baseketball players in the nation together in a gym and have the black kids versus the white kids go five on five...it ain't gonna be close.
when it comes to being an "athlete", the black guys have an advantage because of the muscle fiber thing. it doesn't mean that they will excel at every phase of the game...just the phases that require explosive power - sprinting, jumping.
that's why all the dbs in the nfl are black but the offensive linemen can be black or white.
anyway, there are cichlids from central america, south america and africa. now the africans are the smallest of the three but by far the most aggressive.
in fact, if your tank is not big enough and you put an african cichlid in with south american cichlids that are twice the african's size, you will have a dead south american cichlid in a couple of days.
this is not racism, bigotry or narrow-mindedness...this is fact.
you put the very best high school baseketball players in the nation together in a gym and have the black kids versus the white kids go five on five...it ain't gonna be close.
when it comes to being an "athlete", the black guys have an advantage because of the muscle fiber thing. it doesn't mean that they will excel at every phase of the game...just the phases that require explosive power - sprinting, jumping.
that's why all the dbs in the nfl are black but the offensive linemen can be black or white.
Ive been through this before, but here goes again. I'm a white male who grew up as a very young kid who had primarily all black friends I hung out with in their "part" of town and played ball with daily. There are a few factors involved as to why blacks dominate specific sports, but one of the main reasons is based upon what you grow up playing,and this carries down through the years to ancestors. Some will argue this, but I'm a firm believer in it. From 7 years old all the way to about 17 I played down in the "section", and there wasnt a white guy anyone knew of that could leap the way I did. There's more to the story but really tired of getting into this. Not trying to make this about me, Im just trying to explain to some that will never have a clue..........
i played basketball just about every day from age 10 - 21. i played with great players and terrible players. i played with black guys and with white guys.
i am white. i can shoot the three and i don't miss free throws. i can't jump higher than about 12 inches and i can't play defense.
i can do things to improve my shooting, passing and "how" to play defense. but, there aint a thing i can do about not being able to jump or lacking the quickness/speed necessary to play defense against good players (most of whom are black and faster/quicker than me).
i am white. i can shoot the three and i don't miss free throws. i can't jump higher than about 12 inches and i can't play defense.
i can do things to improve my shooting, passing and "how" to play defense. but, there aint a thing i can do about not being able to jump or lacking the quickness/speed necessary to play defense against good players (most of whom are black and faster/quicker than me).
Obviously Blue, much of it has to do with genetics. Thats why I said there are other factors involved.But still has much to do with what you grow up playing. Did you know that around my area going back probably 10 years ago, there were many Mexicans (not Mexican~Americans) that would be around due to fruit season, and they would flood the courts. Ive played with and against them for fun. They had no coordination whatsover and were pathetic. After playing with them you were battered and bruised from the fouling. Ive seen those groups the past couple years, and they have improved drastically. It takes time.....years.....and when one specific group(race) spends decades playing nothing but particular sports, while other races are doing things totally different, one gains a distinct advantage through the years. And once that elite "group" usually plays against each other 90% of the time, while another race is still playing against among themselves which is lesser competition, not much changes..........
there is no doubt that a person can improve by simply playing more, practicing, getting properly coached, etc.
but, if all those factors are equal - everyone gets the same amount of practice, coaching, playing time, etc, the black guys will always dominate the speed sports like basketball and football. always.
but, if all those factors are equal - everyone gets the same amount of practice, coaching, playing time, etc, the black guys will always dominate the speed sports like basketball and football. always.
blue.....they are DECADES ahead.........Trust me, white guys, and even latin~americans in our area are slowlyyyyyy.....catching up. More guys like this are running and jumping at higher levels now~a~days than in the years past. Ive been experiencing this first hand, I see the difference, trust me.......
I think we will be dead and gone by then.Let me know when you see a black Andre Agassi.......
Dont use the Williams' sisters as an example either.Because one, 2 successful blacks in tennis through decades equals the same arguement as other races vs. blacks in basketball. And 2, they wouldnt as been near successful if they would of arrived in Martina Hingis, Monica Seles, or Steffi Graf's prime......As I said, much of it has to do with what that particular race grows up through the years playing......
Dont use the Williams' sisters as an example either.Because one, 2 successful blacks in tennis through decades equals the same arguement as other races vs. blacks in basketball. And 2, they wouldnt as been near successful if they would of arrived in Martina Hingis, Monica Seles, or Steffi Graf's prime......As I said, much of it has to do with what that particular race grows up through the years playing......
ok, you edited your post after i responded...not playing fair.
how about arthur ashe? he was pretty damn good.
i think tiger woods proved that black athletes can excel at non-athletic type sports if given the opportunity.
it would not surpise me at all if black men begin to excel at sports like tennis, golf, swimming, etc. i think they easily could but, most black guys don't play those sports.
how about arthur ashe? he was pretty damn good.
i think tiger woods proved that black athletes can excel at non-athletic type sports if given the opportunity.
it would not surpise me at all if black men begin to excel at sports like tennis, golf, swimming, etc. i think they easily could but, most black guys don't play those sports.
LOL Blue......what did you just say?
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Bingo! You just agreed with my viewpoint!
And once again, same as the Williams sisters, Tiger Woods, one dominant black golfer in how many years of golfing history?
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Bingo! You just agreed with my viewpoint!
quote......".......if black men begin to excel at sports like tennis, golf, swimming, ect......most black guys dont play those sports"
main reason........socio-economic backgrounds.....
if the inner-citys replaced all the basketball courts with squash courts.........guess what would happen......influx of top-notch squash players that are black.....
i see the points about genetics......that may make blacks better atheletes, but it doesnt explain fully why they dominate sports like football, basketball, boxing, and baseball....
saying blacks are better atheletes becuase of genetics, would mean that 30 or 40 years ago the same would apply....
you cant use team sports as a gauge because of segregation.....but you can use boxing....
there may have been better black atheletes in the sport of boxing 40 years ago......but whites dominated the sport in numbers......for much of the same reasons blacks make up the majority of players in the nba, nfl, and mlb......
the genetic argument is flawed, as far as ball-sports are concerned.....does anybody remember when Carl Lewis "attempted" to play basketball on one of those ABC wide world of sports shows............it was ugly to say the least.....
like i said earlier, the europeans are quickly becomming a force in the NBA.........many seem to possess the atheletic ability the blacks have........plus better mechanics...
the simple fact of why blacks dominate the major sports is because they are steered in that direction....more so than whites
main reason........socio-economic backgrounds.....
if the inner-citys replaced all the basketball courts with squash courts.........guess what would happen......influx of top-notch squash players that are black.....
i see the points about genetics......that may make blacks better atheletes, but it doesnt explain fully why they dominate sports like football, basketball, boxing, and baseball....
saying blacks are better atheletes becuase of genetics, would mean that 30 or 40 years ago the same would apply....
you cant use team sports as a gauge because of segregation.....but you can use boxing....
there may have been better black atheletes in the sport of boxing 40 years ago......but whites dominated the sport in numbers......for much of the same reasons blacks make up the majority of players in the nba, nfl, and mlb......
the genetic argument is flawed, as far as ball-sports are concerned.....does anybody remember when Carl Lewis "attempted" to play basketball on one of those ABC wide world of sports shows............it was ugly to say the least.....
like i said earlier, the europeans are quickly becomming a force in the NBA.........many seem to possess the atheletic ability the blacks have........plus better mechanics...
the simple fact of why blacks dominate the major sports is because they are steered in that direction....more so than whites
SS, it so happens that before retirement I was a professional in human genetics. There is no doubt in my mind that genetics contributes, in some part, to the dominance of black athletes.
The reason involves a concept know as variance or variation. Simply put one can see genetic variation everyday in eye colour, hair colour, height etc. The concept of race, to a geneticist, is an artificial one imposed by society and is not particularly useful. Humankind is a single interbreeding species and the variation one finds within a single "race" exceeds that seen between "races". That is, there are more differences within any one "race" than there are between any "races".
However the black people have an important genetic legacy. Humans evolved in Africa and lived there for at least several hundreds of thousands of years before conditions led to a migration within the (recent) past 50,000 years. Thus there was a large genetic reservoir in Africa and not all of the existing variation was represented in the peoples that moved out of Africa. This is known as a genetic bottleneck.
Changes occurred post migration, most obviously in the loss of skin colouration, this was an adaptive response to maintain vitamin D production when only the face and hands received sun exposure in colder climates, due to wearing of furs.
The result is that we now see the greatest amount of genetic variation among black peoples and other peoples carry only a subset of the genes that are found in blacks. This is the genetic basis for my comment that I have no doubt that genetics plays a role.
This does not mean that there are no other factors within the social environment and that athletics (and military service) might be among the few methods for motivated individuals to achieve excellence.
The reason involves a concept know as variance or variation. Simply put one can see genetic variation everyday in eye colour, hair colour, height etc. The concept of race, to a geneticist, is an artificial one imposed by society and is not particularly useful. Humankind is a single interbreeding species and the variation one finds within a single "race" exceeds that seen between "races". That is, there are more differences within any one "race" than there are between any "races".
However the black people have an important genetic legacy. Humans evolved in Africa and lived there for at least several hundreds of thousands of years before conditions led to a migration within the (recent) past 50,000 years. Thus there was a large genetic reservoir in Africa and not all of the existing variation was represented in the peoples that moved out of Africa. This is known as a genetic bottleneck.
Changes occurred post migration, most obviously in the loss of skin colouration, this was an adaptive response to maintain vitamin D production when only the face and hands received sun exposure in colder climates, due to wearing of furs.
The result is that we now see the greatest amount of genetic variation among black peoples and other peoples carry only a subset of the genes that are found in blacks. This is the genetic basis for my comment that I have no doubt that genetics plays a role.
This does not mean that there are no other factors within the social environment and that athletics (and military service) might be among the few methods for motivated individuals to achieve excellence.
Environment and what is available to do is very important. Why else would about 10% of the players on mlb rosters be from the Dominican Republic, a nation of about 8 million(or less than several American states). Do they have baseball 'genes' or do they just grow up and play baseball instead of video games and other alternatives like a lot of American kids today.
