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<TABLE width=620 border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD colSpan=6>[SIZE=-1] Off at: 9:00 Race Type: Maiden Claiming[/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD colSpan=6>[SIZE=-1] Age Restriction: Three Year Old and Upward [/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD colSpan=6>[SIZE=-1] Value of Race: $18,700[/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD colSpan=6>[SIZE=-1] Distance: Six And One Half Furlongs[/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD colSpan=6>[SIZE=-1] Surface Type: Dirt Track Condition: Fast[/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD colSpan=6>[SIZE=-1] Winning Time: 1:17.66[/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left bgColor=#e3dfcb><TH><SMALL>Pgm</SMALL></TH><TH><SMALL>Horse</SMALL></TH><TH><SMALL>Jockey</SMALL></TH><TH align=right><SMALL>Win</SMALL></TH><TH align=right><SMALL>Place</SMALL></TH><TH align=right><SMALL>Show</SMALL></TH></TR><TR vAlign=center align=left><TD>13 </TD><TD noWrap>[SIZE=-1]Opimian [/SIZE]</TD><TD>[SIZE=-1]Aaron T. Gryder[/SIZE]</TD><TD align=right>[SIZE=-1]8.20[/SIZE]</TD><TD align=right>[SIZE=-1]4.60[/SIZE]</TD><TD align=right>[SIZE=-1]3.80[/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=left><TD>[SIZE=-1]8 [/SIZE]</TD><TD noWrap>[SIZE=-1]Sunny Bench [/SIZE]</TD><TD>[SIZE=-1]Martin A. Pedroza[/SIZE]</TD><TD align=right>[SIZE=-1] [/SIZE]</TD><TD align=right>[SIZE=-1]4.40[/SIZE]</TD><TD align=right>[SIZE=-1]3.40[/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=left><TD>[SIZE=-1]11 [/SIZE]</TD><TD noWrap>[SIZE=-1]Idle Opinion [/SIZE]</TD><TD>[SIZE=-1]Clinton L. Potts[/SIZE]</TD><TD align=right>[SIZE=-1] [/SIZE]</TD><TD align=right>[SIZE=-1] [/SIZE]</TD><TD align=right>[SIZE=-1]7.20[/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD colSpan=6>[SIZE=-1]Also ran: 1 - God and Country , 5 - Piggybankprospect , 14 - Gorman , 4 - Coach Ted , 3 - Bertranimo , 6 - Benson Road , 7 - Huntington Beach , 2 - Prince Otis , 9 - Red Cyclone , 10 - Brians' Ruler , 12 - Enchanted Hideaway [/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD colSpan=6> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


You can spin it anyway you want to US. This is the dumbest bet I have ever seen. 3 win bets on a fucking maiden claiming race. In other words you made 3 bets damn well knowing that 2 of those are losers on a damn nag race. That is called stupid and not very profitable. You keep betting like this you will be on wlefare in no time.

Where was your last second pull it out your ass 5000 bet today? I may have missed it. I still say you are trying to sell something here. LOL You can't get that shit past the smart people we have on this forum. Your a fraud and we all know it.

 

[2000_LS1]

TRS, please shove it up your ass...you said the same thing about me..I'm going to con the forum into buying my "sure bet -60% ROI system" (it's been about that the last couple of days anyway).

TRS, you're either jelious of US, or have found out something you don't like about either of us. We post too many? On certain days, we do too well/bad? Hey look, every player, pro or not, pennies or thousands, has an off day/week/month/even year. I'm working on a real good week right now (last 2 days have been -53% and -64% I think) so don't expect everyone to be picking a winner, every race.

I play 1st Timers with one hell of an roi...I'll bet you think that's stupid too huh? Shows how much you know...damn...

The best thing you could do, is try to keep with US one day...he's flexible...take him on.

Set these guidlines...

Any track
Any type of race (maiden, claming, allowance, stakes, oc...)
$20 max per race (Any bet, WPS, Exacta, Trifecta, Quinella...)
2 mins before post time (US needs at least that I think)

and see who is better...that's all that can be done.


















http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=377805

I think this is the last time you posted a pic....how'd you do????



Didn't think so!!!

BY THE POST TIMES...YOU LOST 100%!!!!

Post up...or shut up...I'll take you on as well, anytime I am available...I do work for a living as well...how about Monday (tomorrow) live?

 

[2000_LS1]

05-29-2006, 03:45 PM #1
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05-29-2006, 03:46 PM #2
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05-29-2006, 03:50 PM #3
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05-29-2006, 03:52 PM #4
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That first race out took a lot of out him. He's a one hit a year wonder. Plus he's not a very fast horse. Boys on TVG were saying he looked hot, but I didn't think he looked washy or anything. Just not good enough. Great performance by Silver Train. Pretty much right on a wicked pace and still gamely held off Sun King.



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[2000_LS1]

But something just doesn't seem right with our 2 new posters. Ultimate Selection and 2000 they just charge in here fand fire away with all these picks. Then as they go it comes out that they don't even bet on the races they pick. the way 2000 plays he would have to be rich as hell to play the horses the way he plays. I feel a con comming. I feel a sales pitch is on the way to buy thier "system" Not like they eased into the forum and picked a couple here and there they come in and play almost every race. If there were not going to use thier own money they should have stated that the 1st line of thier 1st post. I love the horse forum and hope and wish it grows in numbers. I respect many people on this forum with how they pick and what they play. Good luck to all even our 2 new posters I hope you kill them. But only real money will bring you real money back.

TRS's original post

 

[TheRightSide]

LMAO You are a joke just like US. I have nothing against anyone posting thier pics. Lets not forget you 2 got here at the sametime. I called the both of you out as I noticed you didn't even bet your own REAL money on your pics. That's a joke 2000 and others called you out also. I said it before I saw a hussle comming from the both of you. So please give me a break. I notice atleast now you tell us if you will be playing your own money.


LMAO you show a thread that I picked a nag. lol what a joke. I also picked a loser last week or did ya miss that. You don't play the same as US. You might atleast know what a DRF looks like, I doubt US does. So are you saying it's smart to bet 3 horses to win in the same race.......please that is the dumbest bet I have ever seen. You 2 post like the other posters here don't know shit.

Hey BTW I have a life also. I'm not a true degenerate gambler like US. If you haven't noticed I am not the only calling him out. The way he plays too many tracks and too many races is just crazy and me and some other posters have seen through his bullshit. Why is he so fast to show people a look at his spreadsheet he is trying to show people he has a great system and I think he is here to try to sell it. That is my opinion and I stand by it. Sorry I don't need to buy a program to lose 15K in a day. I also don't think he bets what he says. Why does he feel the need to tell us he's betting 5K on a horse at a shit track. He's trying to show off and to show he has confidence in his system that he wants to sell to other posters.

I think I remember the both of you comming from a different forum. What happened at that forum why isn't he posting there? Did he get outed at the other forum? Did he sell to all the posters and needed to move on to another forum? HMMMMMM something smells real bad. I smell a huckster trying to sell something...........BUSTED so take your snake oil and go elsewhere.

 

[2000_LS1]

Well, the need for telling amnt of bet = roi calculations, dumbass...do know what that is?

If I played $100 to win on a 2/1 and $20 to win on a 20/1...assuming I hit both (in different races of course) I would not have the same roi I would have playing equal amnts on both wagers. Duh...

 

[2000_LS1]

LMAO You are a joke just like US. I have nothing against anyone posting thier pics. Lets not forget you 2 got here at the sametime. I called the both of you out as I noticed you didn't even bet your own REAL money on your pics. That's a joke 2000 and others called you out also. I said it before I saw a hussle comming from the both of you. So please give me a break. I notice atleast now you tell us if you will be playing your own money.

No hussles yet....not going to be one either. If me or him tried to "screw" anyone, this be apparent by now. As for playing the real money...I think you make it out to be more than it is. I play when I can. Pretty often too. Sorry you get so damn anal about that!!! I am a stand-up guy...never lied...never needed to. You want a track record I guess...here

4 yrs Military Service (Spec Ops 2 1/2 yrs)
2 yrs college (SAU in Magnolia, Arkansas)
3 yrs on job now
Married for 6 mos now.



LMAO you show a thread that I picked a nag. lol what a joke. I also picked a loser last week or did ya miss that. You don't play the same as US. You might atleast know what a DRF looks like, I doubt US does. So are you saying it's smart to bet 3 horses to win in the same race.......please that is the dumbest bet I have ever seen. You 2 post like the other posters here don't know shit.

If I see a heavy favorite (Like in LS last week, forget the day/race) I played 4 horses to win. The fav was 1/5, second choice was 7/5, in a 6 horse field. I boxed all 4 over all in an exacta, and played win on all others. The 3rd choice went off @10/1 4th around 15/1 5th around 40/1 and 6th 99/1 if I remember right and I hit the exacta and the win...for a profit on both.

Hey BTW I have a life also. I'm not a true degenerate gambler like US. If you haven't noticed I am not the only calling him out. The way he plays too many tracks and too many races is just crazy and me and some other posters have seen through his bullshit. Why is he so fast to show people a look at his spreadsheet he is trying to show people he has a great system and I think he is here to try to sell it. That is my opinion and I stand by it. Sorry I don't need to buy a program to lose 15K in a day. I also don't think he bets what he says. Why does he feel the need to tell us he's betting 5K on a horse at a shit track. He's trying to show off and to show he has confidence in his system that he wants to sell to other posters.

You are showing one day, just like I did on you, give him a break.

I also didn't know you were his father, I guess US needs to ask for your permission to play any bets or post them from now on right? Wrong. Let him do as he sees fit.

I think I remember the both of you comming from a different forum. What happened at that forum why isn't he posting there? Did he get outed at the other forum? Did he sell to all the posters and needed to move on to another forum? HMMMMMM something smells real bad. I smell a huckster trying to sell something...........BUSTED so take your snake oil and go elsewhere.

Yes we both came from the same forum...mostly due to the mod (my case anyways), he was pressing for wins to be posted and I was in a rut (like I have been the last 2 days). He posted the next day losing more than 75% on his own picks, I said something...got booted...woo-hoo. Best thing that's happened because except for yourself, I have had no problems.

No sales were made to anyone, as a matter of fact, the system I use is free to anyone. Ask if you'd like more info.

The only that smells is the hole you're talking out of...not your mouth. My snake-oil??? Yea right!!!! I have nothing to sell, but losers lately...but I'll bet my 60% losers can beat your 100% losers...wanna try it tomorrow?

2000_LS1

 

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<TABLE width=620 border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD colSpan=6>[SIZE=-1]Off at: 9:00 Race Type: Maiden Claiming[/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD colSpan=6>[SIZE=-1]Age Restriction: Three Year Old and Upward [/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD colSpan=6>[SIZE=-1]Value of Race: $18,700[/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD colSpan=6>[SIZE=-1]Distance: Six And One Half Furlongs[/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD colSpan=6>[SIZE=-1]Surface Type: Dirt Track Condition: Fast[/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD colSpan=6>[SIZE=-1]Winning Time: 1:17.66[/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left bgColor=#e3dfcb><TH><SMALL>Pgm</SMALL></TH><TH><SMALL>Horse</SMALL></TH><TH><SMALL>Jockey</SMALL></TH><TH align=right><SMALL>Win</SMALL></TH><TH align=right><SMALL>Place</SMALL></TH><TH align=right><SMALL>Show</SMALL></TH></TR><TR vAlign=center align=left><TD>13 </TD><TD noWrap>[SIZE=-1]Opimian [/SIZE]</TD><TD>[SIZE=-1]Aaron T. Gryder[/SIZE]</TD><TD align=right>[SIZE=-1]8.20[/SIZE]</TD><TD align=right>[SIZE=-1]4.60[/SIZE]</TD><TD align=right>[SIZE=-1]3.80[/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=left><TD>[SIZE=-1]8 [/SIZE]</TD><TD noWrap>[SIZE=-1]Sunny Bench [/SIZE]</TD><TD>[SIZE=-1]Martin A. Pedroza[/SIZE]</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>[SIZE=-1]4.40[/SIZE]</TD><TD align=right>[SIZE=-1]3.40[/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=center align=left><TD>[SIZE=-1]11 [/SIZE]</TD><TD noWrap>[SIZE=-1]Idle Opinion [/SIZE]</TD><TD>[SIZE=-1]Clinton L. Potts[/SIZE]</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>[SIZE=-1]7.20[/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD colSpan=6>[SIZE=-1]Also ran: 1 - God and Country , 5 - Piggybankprospect , 14 - Gorman , 4 - Coach Ted , 3 - Bertranimo , 6 - Benson Road , 7 - Huntington Beach , 2 - Prince Otis , 9 - Red Cyclone , 10 - Brians' Ruler , 12 - Enchanted Hideaway [/SIZE]</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top align=left><TD colSpan=6></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


You can spin it anyway you want to US. This is the dumbest bet I have ever seen. 3 win bets on a fucking maiden claiming race. In other words you made 3 bets damn well knowing that 2 of those are losers on a damn nag race. That is called stupid and not very profitable. You keep betting like this you will be on wlefare in no time.

Where was your last second pull it out your ass 5000 bet today? I may have missed it. I still say you are trying to sell something here. LOL You can't get that shit past the smart people we have on this forum. Your a fraud and we all know it.

Well you just proved my point! Thank You Wrong side!
That 3 horse dutch is a 206% Profit return dumbass! had any one of those won I get a 206% return Profit. In this case it would have been $618.00 return. I ask you whats wrong with that? You obviously don't know anything about dutching do you? I am not selling or will ever ask to sell anything in here! I have said this over and over again. What don't you understand? I am tired of being nice about this with you ! Just put your game up against mine anytime anywhere! I will kick your ass! I guarantee it! LS is right...
Go shove it up your ass...tree hugger! You just verified you know nothing about dutching or anything else! You just don't understand the arithmatic of racing! Go cry somewhere else. Or bring your weak ass game and let's go head to head! Come on I dare you!
Those who can .. Do!... Those who can't... Won't & don't! That's
you! If i am sooo dumb and about what I do then you should think you could kick my ass in a head to head match up! But You KNOW you can't that's why you won't! Enough said! You can't post shit compared to me! Invitation is open PAL bring it!

 

[2000_LS1]

Military = Ranger (one of the Army's 2 Special Forces, Delta Force being the other) 11 Bravo (Infantry) primary MOS (Military Occupational Skill) 11 Hotel (Machanized Infantry) secondary MOS. I used my secondary more than my primary. Any 11 Series (11B, 11C, 11H, 11X) also has an 11B primary. Jjust like the Marine's having an 0311 Primary.

College = SAU (Southern Arkansas University) is a pretty good school IMO, got my Masters in beer-drinking..like everyone does...and business marketing.

Job = I landed a job paying 80k/yr after being out of school for 3-4 mos. I did spiratic work during those 3-4 mos. The railroad is one of the best jobs we have in south Arkansas right now, IMO.

Wife/Business = Really great girl, glad I met her. Jennifer is 24 years old, has a CPA and helps with another business we run that makes $4m a year average for 3 years running now. It's retail merchandising, I work on the railroad because of insurance, and the need to out of the office some of the time. I do not work there full-time but put in quite a few hours in busy season (before major holidays). We make more off of that than most people do in 10 years or more.

The horses...we both like them, we both go to Oaklawn when season starts and play quite a bit. It's "relaxation" for the both of us. She enjoys the casino, I personally do not. We'll go to Harrah's when we go (casino and home of Louisiana Downs) so I can horse race or simulcast.

BTW...I barely know how to read a DRF...don't look at PP's, times, speed figs, nothing...I look for two things....value and connections

 

[2000_LS1]

I HAVE NO NEED FOR YOUR MONEY...I PROMISE...IF YOU ASKED ABOUT MY "SYSTEM" I WOULD GLADLY CALL YOU, AND GO THROUGH IT WITH YOU...FOR FREE (no need to buy anything either, not even a form...contradicts what you think now doesn't it?) ...SO WOULD US IF YOU WERE NOT SO RUDE ABOUT THE WAY YOU DO THINGS...the people in this country can be amazing...ppl like you need to go to countries like Iraq, Bosnia, Afgan to see how good you do have it...you'll never now til you go I promise. I see you bitch all of the time in the politics forum...sorry to hear that my friend..I wished you could see through my younger eyes...I am 24 years old, played horses for less than a year...and you can't beat me.

 

[TheRightSide]

Look 2000 1st off thank you for your service to our great country. But I didn't ask for a full bio. I have a problem with US. I sure do and it's not only me on this forum. All he has to do is post his picks no need to encourage people to follow him. He acted the same way when he wasn't playing real money. People that normaly don't post in this forum were following him like he knew what he was doing. People do not have the bankroll that he allarently has. So what a person going to bet the same way he does....bullshit.

Infact I like the way you play more than US's. You are investing less money and have a shot to atleast hit it big. This is a gambling website most people on here bet just for the action so please try to keep that in mind when you post all the crazy plays. Degenerate gamblers will follow you guys and play the picks just to have action just for the rush. People that wouldn't know the difference between blinkers and lasix.

Also why did you feel the need to brag about how much money you make. Have you even seen anyone in this forum do that. You 2 seem to need to push your chest out quite a bit.

I have family and friends in the military. I'm not sure why you played that card. I of all people know what a great country we have here. I unsterstand how good we have it also.

So in the end please keep in mind people are following your pics that don't know shit about horses.

 

[TheRightSide]

I also hope the both of you hit all your plays. I have said that from the start but you have failed to read that apparently. Hope we all win.

 

[2000_LS1]

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Originally Posted by TheRightSide
But something just doesn't seem right with our 2 new posters. Ultimate Selection and 2000 they just charge in here fand fire away with all these picks. Then as they go it comes out that they don't even bet on the races they pick. the way 2000 plays he would have to be rich as hell to play the horses the way he plays. I feel a con comming. I feel a sales pitch is on the way to buy thier "system" Not like they eased into the forum and picked a couple here and there they come in and play almost every race. If there were not going to use thier own money they should have stated that the 1st line of thier 1st post. I love the horse forum and hope and wish it grows in numbers. I respect many people on this forum with how they pick and what they play. Good luck to all even our 2 new posters I hope you kill them. But only real money will bring you real money back.

This is why!!!

 

[UltimateSelector!]

This needs to said here in this thread also!


I respect your opinion. With that being said, I have stated in every thread that I post..
1) Play at your own RISK! 2) People can do what they wish with my posted selections! That is... You can play it, Not play it, Wheel it, W-P-S it, or whatever! 3) I think we are all big boys in here with a mind of our own. If anybody wants to be told what to do and how to do it then I think that would be a great idea for a new "Thread Title" this way newbies or people who don't know how to wager or use thier own mind in doing so could be helped out by guys that are willing to give such advice. I know there are a few of these gentlemen in here who seem to care about everyone else but themselves! I commend them, but don't use me as the poster boy to get that point across with me! If you don't know how to play this game with some kind of sense then it will be a short self solving problem that will not be profitable no how! I can't control how people think and what they do! But when I do we would not be having to respond to comments like this in these threads!

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[Winder]

I am interested in your system

I have tried some systems in my time at the track and some have been good and some have been bad but I am a numbers guy and enjoy doing the figures. I would like to see what it all entails. Personally, I use the pool system to solidify a horse if I like one. If the pools tell me it's being bet, then I will go forward with the wager.

 

[UltimateSelector!]

I have tried some systems in my time at the track and some have been good and some have been bad but I am a numbers guy and enjoy doing the figures. I would like to see what it all entails. Personally, I use the pool system to solidify a horse if I like one. If the pools tell me it's being bet, then I will go forward with the wager.

Hey Winder! I lived in Omaha for most of my life! Go Big Red! I started my horse playing days at Aksarben! Which is Nebraska spelled backwards.. If you are refering to my program I will be happy to send you a screen shot.. But I say this It's not for sell. You can see it live if you like! My e-mail is in my profile. It's the same as yahoo addy in there!
Nice to hear from you!
I too am a Numbers Guy!

 

[Winder]

Fellow Husker

I remember when Aksarben would get over 20000 people there. Oh the good ole days. My uncle used to have a small stable of horses back then. He's retired now though. I live in Norfolk, couple hours north of Omaha. It's funny but the company I work for now in Norfolk, we have a office that sits on the Aksarben grounds now. I still miss the old days of horse racing when the you could actually read the form and have a chance of picking the winner.

 

[2000_LS1]

TRS, please reak my picks today...the last thread...posted at 103 am today.