"nationbuilding has been a waste of time, energy, and money"
Not rebuilding Germany after WWI was one of the factors that led to WWII. We learned from that mistake and helped Japan after we destroyed them. It does sound illogical to demolish a country and then rebuild it however it is practical.
Not rebuilding Germany after WWI was one of the factors that led to WWII. We learned from that mistake and helped Japan after we destroyed them. It does sound illogical to demolish a country and then rebuild it however it is practical.
Game, post some source for your 76 billion claim. I distinctly remember reading the U.S. cost was between 3 and 4 billion, and not a single American solider died.GAMEFACE said:
1. We had a correct reason to do what we did and it was honestly and accurately presented to the country and world.
2. We had an exit and victory strategy that was carried out relatively quickly (and don't tell me we're still there. We're in a lot of other places also. We're not there in any significant or dangerous way).
3. We had basically unanimous international support.
4. We were welcomed there.
5. The cost and casualties were low.
The differences could not be more extreme.
Again, please tell me where the 76 billion claim comes from.
on the outside "why are bombs? posted by:gameface" then you open the post and it continues "hurt people and stuff? they explode go boom and people get scrapes and they might even get kilted. its bad and i skered" game, you are so adorable. just know war is bad and bombs do more then reinforce belief that people lived 600 years and help the top 2 guys in office rake more cash as a matter of fact i think cheneys mascare is starting to run while game weeps with him and cuts him another check and jacks off to a pic of him in a v neck cut sweater.
D2
I have learned that some people on this forum just make
things up. Right out of their tiny brains they tell lies and
hope nobody catches them. Then if they are caught
they simply ignore it and post some other bs. I have
caught a few of them in out right bs, showed it to them
and they fail to respond. They lose all credibility but
continue to post nonsense. Some of them when caught
want to fight. Typical, but if they fight the way they
reason and debate it shouldn't be much of a problem.
I have learned that some people on this forum just make
things up. Right out of their tiny brains they tell lies and
hope nobody catches them. Then if they are caught
they simply ignore it and post some other bs. I have
caught a few of them in out right bs, showed it to them
and they fail to respond. They lose all credibility but
continue to post nonsense. Some of them when caught
want to fight. Typical, but if they fight the way they
reason and debate it shouldn't be much of a problem.
Staci,
Obviously you're not referring to me.
D2,
I'm accurate, I don't mess with links. I don't have the time to play games. The info is correct. Bosnia had ZERO do with Americas national defense. Why didn't Europe act? That was not our problem. Those D bombs were OK, 4000-5000 innocent people were murdered by those D bombs and it was not covered by our liberal media and the radical muslims now control that area thanks to the D bombs.
Obviously you're not referring to me.
D2,
I'm accurate, I don't mess with links. I don't have the time to play games. The info is correct. Bosnia had ZERO do with Americas national defense. Why didn't Europe act? That was not our problem. Those D bombs were OK, 4000-5000 innocent people were murdered by those D bombs and it was not covered by our liberal media and the radical muslims now control that area thanks to the D bombs.
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"......is that much of the muslim world seems to forget that we interjected on the behalf of the muslims there."
Very true. As the usual case, big brother USA steps in to help and in return gets a shiv in the back, and gets to pay the tab.
While we're talking about rebuilding, which foreign country is going to step in and rebuild two WTC towers that were lost 3 years ago? Find any answer for that one? I thought so.
Whether the effort in Bosnia cost 4 billion or 76 billion is quite irrelevant, we'd have gotten better value just piling all that money up and putting a match to it.....at least we could have warmed our hands a little bit.
Time to scrap all those peace talks between Israel/Palestine also....they deserve each other, just let them g*ddamn fight if they wanna fight....let them pump billions into thier own wars and then they can spend just as much rebuilding thier own infrastructure and economies.....I'm tired of watching all the bleeding hearts in our political system throw away billions of dollars on countless worthless foreign pursuits that either fail and/or are forgotten by the recipients......if our politicians feel so much for these armpit countries then maybe they should go live there and run for office there and spend thier own money trying to fix the whole f*cking world......let some other country be the big brother to all these deadbeats....
Very true. As the usual case, big brother USA steps in to help and in return gets a shiv in the back, and gets to pay the tab.
While we're talking about rebuilding, which foreign country is going to step in and rebuild two WTC towers that were lost 3 years ago? Find any answer for that one? I thought so.
Whether the effort in Bosnia cost 4 billion or 76 billion is quite irrelevant, we'd have gotten better value just piling all that money up and putting a match to it.....at least we could have warmed our hands a little bit.
Time to scrap all those peace talks between Israel/Palestine also....they deserve each other, just let them g*ddamn fight if they wanna fight....let them pump billions into thier own wars and then they can spend just as much rebuilding thier own infrastructure and economies.....I'm tired of watching all the bleeding hearts in our political system throw away billions of dollars on countless worthless foreign pursuits that either fail and/or are forgotten by the recipients......if our politicians feel so much for these armpit countries then maybe they should go live there and run for office there and spend thier own money trying to fix the whole f*cking world......let some other country be the big brother to all these deadbeats....
GAMEFACE said:
Such a cliché. I think I've read this line fifty times now.
It has no merit, anyway. Since I don't expect your memory bank to be overly large, I'll just take you back to the Clinton years. Liberals (real libs, not party-toeing democrats) were appalled when Clinton attacked Iraq just months after announcing he was, indeed, being blown by that woman. Most of us saw it as a distraction, not a necessity. Fast forward to Bush and it's the same ****, only alot worse. This time, there's no end in sight.
The only hypocrisy here is your continued inability to separate your politics from ethics, while claiming that the left is crippled in this regard.
As a european I would say we moved in as any civilised group of nations would to prevent more genocide. Europe has had enough of that crap thankyou very much.Judge Wapner said:
Most of us have no affiliation/connection with Yugoslavia, but knew it was the right thing to do.
You can't encourage those kind of people. We must keep our eye on the ball.
"all that is required for bad men to succeed, is for good men to do nothing"
And, because the euros ponced about so much, it was US military help that was desperately needed and required to douse the flames.
You might not see it over there, but you won't find anyone in europe giving the US any crap over the Bosnia operation.
(And, as mentioned, it saved the european towelheads.)
