Who's the last big time white athlete to screw up like other guys are lately ?

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I'm not doubting - my point is that if we're going to extend the discussion to physiological and environmental circumstances then I'm sure just about everyone has an excuse... While I'm sure I'm being bullheaded, environmental shit is everywhere that can cause people to have stunted mental growth and lead paint in low-income housing is at the forefront... Its a fucking joke that kids grow up in these places... So while one asshole on the Raiders has BPD, if you want to open the door for excuses and reasoning, I guarantee you that we can get everyone in this discussion off the hook.

Well said.:toast:
 

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I'm not doubting - my point is that if we're going to extend the discussion to physiological and environmental circumstances then I'm sure just about everyone has an excuse... While I'm sure I'm being bullheaded, environmental shit is everywhere that can cause people to have stunted mental growth and lead paint in low-income housing is at the forefront... Its a fucking joke that kids grow up in these places... So while one asshole on the Raiders has BPD, if you want to open the door for excuses and reasoning, I guarantee you that we can get everyone in this discussion off the hook.



doubt you can find excuses for people like simpson ,caruth , pac man jones , vick and plaxico, or mike tyson for that matter . and i'm sure many others.

no question a persons childhood and the things they see can cause future issues.. i guess my point in all this is that so many guys hit the lotto in pro sports only to kill , shoot , electrocute or rape there way into prison.

and the majority of those guys are non-white..

i dont think any of the white guys mentioned in this thread ever did time. which is not meant to condone any of the activities of the white guys listed .
 

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Marinovich did time. Leyritz is looking at time. Benoit didn't do time because he offed himself after killing his wife and kid. The difference between Stallworth and drunk drivers like Baiul and Tony LaRussa is that they were lucky enough not to harm anyone.

Just come out and say, "I don't like black athletes." It's a lot easier than coming up with a brand new rationalization for every white guy mentioned.
 

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doubt you can find excuses for people like simpson ,caruth , pac man jones , vick and plaxico, or mike tyson for that matter . and i'm sure many others.

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i dont think any of the white guys mentioned in this thread ever did time. which is not meant to condone any of the activities of the white guys listed .

Right, 'cause CLEARLY Mike Tyson doesn't suffer from some verifiable mental disorder.

Its the fact that you are lumping folks together by race, and race alone, that makes people think, that maybe, you might be a bigot (and subsequently that your arguments are too biased to take seriously). It sounds as though you ARE attempting to condone the white guys activities... That's kinda the whole point.

And the idea that the prison time they did determines their "badness" or "evilness" is insane, as Plax is doing 2yrs for shooting HIMSELF... Pretty sure he's not a menace to society.
 

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i dont think any of the white guys mentioned in this thread ever did time. which is not meant to condone any of the activities of the white guys listed .

Just because Mike Danton and Troy Neel weren't mentioned doesn't mean they didn't fuck up just the same. Pete Rose spent time in prison as did McClain. Tonya Harding spent a few days in jail. It's kind of fun searching your brain for all these guys. There was another hockey player on cocaine charges, can't remember the name, though

It's one thing to say you can't think of white athletes who have gotten themselves into trouble like the number of recent black athletes and ask if it has ever happened. But to flatly deny any examples offered as incorrect is just being silly and stupid
 

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So I get labeled a bigot cause I'm not quite ready to lump Pete Rose and Denny Mclain in with some of the guys I mentioned.

While in the sense of the words " screwed up " , yes , they fit , but some how the victimless crimes of gambling and tax evasion dont rank quite as high.

And yes , the wife beaters and drunk drivers in this thread fit and dont deserve any breaks.

When was the last time a white pro athlete felt the need to carry a firearm into a night club ?

The only weapon Tom Brady ever carries into a club is a pen. Just in case someone wants an autograph. I hope and pray it doesnt discharge on its own one day and ruin his shirt...

Love how this thread was rubber roomed.
 

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So long as you plead complete stupidity, we might reconsider if you are a bigot

Bobby Knight shot someone. Barry Switzer carried a handgun into an airport illegally

I know those are coaches and not athletes, but when 80% of the league is black, of course there will be four times as many examples of black players doing something stupid as there are of white players
 

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So I get labeled a bigot cause I'm not quite ready to lump Pete Rose and Denny Mclain in with some of the guys I mentioned.

While in the sense of the words " screwed up " , yes , they fit , but some how the victimless crimes of gambling and tax evasion dont rank quite as high.

And yes , the wife beaters and drunk drivers in this thread fit and dont deserve any breaks.

When was the last time a white pro athlete felt the need to carry a firearm into a night club ?

The only weapon Tom Brady ever carries into a club is a pen. Just in case someone wants an autograph. I hope and pray it doesnt discharge on its own one day and ruin his shirt...

Love how this thread was rubber roomed.

Read up on McClain. Very interesting, super talent even a concert pianist.

Loved the outlaw gang life, remind you of people of another color?
 

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