Beautiful reply Judge! That damn goat! IB you've got it just about right: 4 of the 5 remain the most powerful because many know who they are, but few know what they actually control. The fifth, well, everyone knows who he is. Shrink can't be in the top 5, but through proxy he could get into the top 10. He won't sweat this top 10 though; organizersofbeards.com just gave him the man of the year award.