Who’s the 2nd best team in the NFL?

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Whoops what?? lol

3 weeks ago Colin had the #1 and no one else did.

I wasn't wrong. They went on to beat the Rams and trounce Philly. Wait, nothing changes in the NFL 3 weeks later?? Power rankings don't change?? lol



"New England will not win or cover against the Falcons"
Whoops

new England will beat Seattle. Philly will beat New England. Let’s forget those though. Convenient amnesia.
 
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I’ve thought they’ve been the best team since October. Problem is now everyone thinks they are....including Stephen A smith. So therefore they won’t be much longer lol.

looks like Brees is on his way to an MVP trophy...which hasn’t been a good sign. Amongst other things.
 
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ODDS TO WIN 2018-19 SUPER BOWL LIII (2/3/19)
TeamOdds
New Orleans Saints7/2
Los Angeles Rams4/1
Kansas City Chiefs5/1
New England Patriots7/1
Pittsburgh Steelers9/1
Chicago Bears16/1
Los Angeles Chargers16/1
Houston Texans20/1
Minnesota Vikings25/1
Dallas Cowboys33/1
Indianapolis Colts33/1
Carolina Panthers40/1
Baltimore Ravens50/1
Green Bay Packers50/1
Philadelphia Eagles50/1
Seattle Seahawks50/1
Tennessee Titans80/1
Atlanta Falcons100/1
Cincinnati Bengals100/1
Washington Redskins100/1
Cleveland Browns150/1
Denver Broncos150/1
Detroit Lions150/1
Miami Dolphins150/1
Jacksonville Jaguars250/1
New York Giants250/1
Buffalo Bills500/1
Arizona Cardinals1000/1
New York Jets1000/1
Oakland Raiders1000/1
San Francisco 49ers1000/1
Tampa Bay Buccaneers1000/1

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right now pittsburgh is ahead of new england. they arent in the top 4 with losses to the teams they have lost to. saints, chiefs, rams, steelers, in that order. new england may be there eventually but they wanted to trade gronk for a reason...they know thats over.

That's probably true. I'd rank the teams like this:

Saints
Rams
Chiefs
Steelers
Patriots

With that said, I think New England is most likely to "flip the switch" when it matters. I know it's the NFL, but a similar comparison could be the Cavs in the NBA with LeBron. They were nowhere near the top of the conference last year (#4 seed), but they were the best in the East when it mattered.

So I think New England will be there when it matters.
 

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Mcvay > Payton

Definitely debatable. I think the jury is still out on him as it pertains to the playoffs. The sample size is simply too small.

What I do know is the Saints have the better QB, who is also a HOFer with a ring, and a hunger to avenge what happened last year in Minnesota.
 

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I doubt the Chiefs, Rams or Steelers even make the conference final. We’ve seen this story with KC and Reid in the past, they’ll lose their first playoff game, probably have a lead at the half and lose in another bizzare Andy Reid special. Last time I checked Tomlin was still coaching in Pittsburgh, so they’ll choke away their first game, hopefully, or we’ll get stuck watching them get embarrassed by the Patriots yet again. Rams don’t play defense and have zero home field advantage leading to a one and done versus anyone with a pulse.

I’ll go NE and whoever this years squeak in is (Chargers?) and NO v Dallas.
 

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I like your Chiefs , but of course if they lose tonight, then we are back to square 1

I'm not taking anything away from the Saints .... just think if they played in LA, we would get a different result
either way it should be a great Playoffs



Everything you said is right to the T,..Playoffs should be thrilling
 

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Two questions:

If Pittsburgh or New England played a game at Arrowhead right now, what do you think the line would be for those respective games?

If Pittsburgh or New England played a game at Arrowhead in the upcoming playoffs, who do you think would win those respective games?
 
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Two questions:

If Pittsburgh or New England played a game at Arrowhead right now, what do you think the line would be for those respective games?

If Pittsburgh or New England played a game at Arrowhead in the upcoming playoffs, who do you think would win those respective games?

I'm sure there will Not be many that agree with me ( a lot of Pats fans here ) But the Line Right now for Question # 1 is, KC would either be a PK or -1 vs. NE
and KC would be -1 or -2 vs. Pitt

In the Playoffs even though KC doesn't have a great Playoff record, KC would Beat Pitt, but Lose to NE

Just MY opinion
 

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I'm sure there will Not be many that agree with me ( a lot of Pats fans here ) But the Line Right now for Question # 1 is, KC would either be a PK or -1 vs. NE
and KC would be -1 or -2 vs. Pitt

In the Playoffs even though KC doesn't have a great Playoff record, KC would Beat Pitt, but Lose to NE

Just MY opinion

I think those lines are actually pretty generous for both Pittsburgh and New England!
 
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I'm sure there will Not be many that agree with me ( a lot of Pats fans here ) But the Line Right now for Question # 1 is, KC would either be a PK or -1 vs. NE
and KC would be -1 or -2 vs. Pitt

In the Playoffs even though KC doesn't have a great Playoff record, KC would Beat Pitt, but Lose to NE

Just MY opinion

If KC didn't have a past with losing in the Playoffs, They Could beat Both.
They match up well against NE. last year they beat the Snot out of the Pats in NE, and they year it was close ( 3pt NE win )
 

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If KC didn't have a past with losing in the Playoffs, They Could beat Both.
They match up well against NE. last year they beat the Snot out of the Pats in NE, and they year it was close ( 3pt NE win )

Yeah, I think KC would be -3 or -4 at home against either of those teams right now.

Playoffs I'd give the edge to the Pats and Steelers to come away with close wins. I almost like KC's chances more if the game is on the road. They've blundered wherever they play, but they've REALLY blundered at home for so many years now.
 
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I think those lines are actually pretty generous for both Pittsburgh and New England!

the problem is You never know which NE or Pitt team you're going to see.

Pats have shown major problems throughout, but like someone said above, when it counts they seem to show up

The Steelers are a strange bunch for sure, but just because they just got by the Jags yesterday, just means they match up well
Some teams play other teams hard. I don't have the answer as to why, but History shows this time after time
 

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Yeah, I think KC would be -3 or -4 at home against either of those teams right now.

Playoffs I'd give the edge to the Pats and Steelers to come away with close wins. I almost like KC's chances more if the game is on the road. They've blundered wherever they play, but they've REALLY blundered at home for so many years now.

I'm a big Mahomes guy, but a rookie vs Brady in the playoffs and I'll take Tom all day long. I dont care where they play
 

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If the Chiefs have homefield in the playoffs they would not be under a FG fav against the Pats or Steelers....There would need to be some changes in the perception of those teams for that to happen.
 

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If the Chiefs have homefield in the playoffs they would not be under a FG fav against the Pats or Steelers....There would need to be some changes in the perception of those teams for that to happen.

It'd probably be right around 3-4 points. A lot can change between now and then though. This is when Reid teams start to fade...
 

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I think the saints would be at least -4 vs any team in the Super Bowl.

I took advantage on book maker offering pickem -120 for the nfc a few weeks ago.
 

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When the Saints lose the superbowl on a Taysom Hill interception, that's gonna make Diggs digging his foot up the Saints ass look like a picnic.
 

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