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do you ever comprehend anything on any topic? seems to me you're clueless about everything

and you can't compare anyone to MJ until they've become an MJ

not many stars shopped their talents together like the Heat players did, trying their best to buy a championship. I kinda enjoy hating them, and they haven't disappointed me yet

Piss and moan like a little bitch, that's Witless Willie. I reserve my dislike for that scumbag Cav owner, who tongued LeBron's balls to get him to stay, then blasted him 2 seconds later when he got kicked to the curb. And piss all those whiny mistake-by-the-lake Cav fans, too, they haven't exactly set the world on fire since he left to bring about the owner's prediction for a championship. And spin all you want, the fact remains that at this age, Jordan didn't have any rings, either.
 

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Pretty basic reason. If LeBron is on any of these haters' teams, they would love him. @)

I'm originally from Miami and grew up there. Followed the Heat loyally since their inception into the NBA in 1988.

LeBron is on my home town team, and I'm damn glad of it. He's truly a "once in a lifetime" player who I am thrilled to watch perform night in and night out at such a high level.


Couldn't agree more bro, nice to hear a fellow S. Floridian chime in.
 
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People celebrating like he accomplished something is downright laughable. The reason they won is Chris Bosh but forget all of that for a moment. Take a look at the big picture, people are crowing like he accomplished something when this is his 3rd trip to the finals & he as of now has not sniffed a ring. Crow when we actually wins something.
 

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Shot 42% from the field, 70% from the foul line, 20% from 3 point and had 2 assist.
 

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People celebrating like he accomplished something is downright laughable. The reason they won is Chris Bosh but forget all of that for a moment. Take a look at the big picture, people are crowing like he accomplished something when this is his 3rd trip to the finals & he as of now has not sniffed a ring. Crow when we actually wins something.

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Whatever you say, hater! 3 MVP awards in 8 seasons in the NBA.

It's clear to see LeBron is the LEADER of the Heat. Even DWade acknowledges this.


Hope you'll be around when he gets his ring this month. :grandmais
 
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I am a hater? Have you seen me post religiously trashing the guy? No, I have not. People are not "haters" when they point out the facts. People are judged by championships as it is the standard of greatness especially in the NBA. The man has zero titles yet people want to herald him. No one is knocking his all world talent but the fact he acts like he has done something is one of the many reasons the legends don't care for him as he has not earned it.

So he is the leader of the team, big deal. People remember winners, always have & always will. Unlike Lebron, DW has won something & pretty much did it on his own especially late in games where he shows his true leadership skills.
 

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I am a hater? Have you seen me post religiously trashing the guy? No, I have not. People are not "haters" when they point out the facts. People are judged by championships as it is the standard of greatness especially in the NBA. The man has zero titles yet people want to herald him. No one is knocking his all world talent but the fact he acts like he has done something is one of the many reasons the legends don't care for him as he has not earned it.

So he is the leader of the team, big deal. People remember winners, always have & always will. Unlike Lebron, DW has won something & pretty much did it on his own especially late in games where he shows his true leadership skills.

Look, I'm originally from Miami, and I have to point out to you DWade had Shaq when they won the title in 2006! He certainly did not win the NBA title "on his own."

I see it's all about the rings in pro sports for you. Guess we can say Dan Marino of the Miami Dolphins was a hack in the NFL because he didn't win any rings? Do you remember him? How'd he get into the Hall of Fame with no rings? :think2:

LeBron has won 3 regular season MVPs in 8 seasons, and that's nothing to be remembered for? :think2:

When LeBron retires, I will bet you he will be a 1st ballot Hall of Famer, even if he has no rings. Using your logic, he won't be remembered and has no shot at the HoF! :ohno:

LeBron James truly is the most scrutinized villified athelete of our era, hands down.

Not sure how he handles this type of pressure day in and day out 24/7!
 
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Yes, he had Shaq who was definitely not in his prime. Watch that series & tell me who took over in the 4th Q practically every game, it was DWade. Shaq was not the reason why they won that title. He pretty much lived at the foul line as he drove at will on the Mavericks (albeit a lot of bad calls but still).

I am not knocking the man's talents as he has some great gifts. I am not saying he won't be remembered. However one can't deny that the reason why he is not as respected by NBA legends is because of how he anoints himself as if he as accomplished something. He has never shown the desire to win a title at all costs & sacrifice the way he needs to do so. Even his biggest fan can't deny that, his track record in the NBA Finals has proved it thus far.

Using Dan Marino as analogy won't work as he was not going around acting like he was this gift to the game & thinking he is above it.

Until the man wins something & is the main reason for doing so, he deserves a lot of the criticism he gets. If a game is on the line, I would choose DW over him to take that shot or lead me to victory any day as he has proven to be able to do it on the biggest stage.
 

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Until the man wins something & is the main reason for doing so, he deserves a lot of the criticism he gets.
He was the ONLY reason the 06-07 Cavs team won the Eastern Conf. title. That was one of the least talented teams I've ever seen (in fact, when Lebron left they were one of the worst in the league). The criticism he gets is just absurd, and he deserves none of it. He performs at an extremely high level and is arguably the best player of all-time.

If a game is on the line, I would choose DW over him to take that shot or lead me to victory any day as he has proven to be able to do it on the biggest stage.
So what? If the game is on the line I would prefer Steve Kerr to shoot it over Jordan, it doesn't make him a better basketball player.

Hey, if the game is on the line I can find a better FT shooter than Jordan, therefore Jordan isn't that great, derp derp dderp
 

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I am a hater? Have you seen me post religiously trashing the guy? No, I have not. People are not "haters" when they point out the facts. People are judged by championships as it is the standard of greatness especially in the NBA. The man has zero titles yet people want to herald him. No one is knocking his all world talent but the fact he acts like he has done something is one of the many reasons the legends don't care for him as he has not earned it.

So he is the leader of the team, big deal. People remember winners, always have & always will. Unlike Lebron, DW has won something & pretty much did it on his own especially late in games where he shows his true leadership skills.

" DW has won something & pretty much did it on his own" Gee, there's an objective statement, I'm sure that would come as some surprise to Shaq, and, if you're talking about THIS series, that statement is a joke, Wade had at least as many poor 4th quarters as he did good ones.
 

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Yes, he had Shaq who was definitely not in his prime. Watch that series & tell me who took over in the 4th Q practically every game, it was DWade. Shaq was not the reason why they won that title. He pretty much lived at the foul line as he drove at will on the Mavericks (albeit a lot of bad calls but still).

I am not knocking the man's talents as he has some great gifts. I am not saying he won't be remembered. However one can't deny that the reason why he is not as respected by NBA legends is because of how he anoints himself as if he as accomplished something. He has never shown the desire to win a title at all costs & sacrifice the way he needs to do so. Even his biggest fan can't deny that, his track record in the NBA Finals has proved it thus far.

Using Dan Marino as analogy won't work as he was not going around acting like he was this gift to the game & thinking he is above it.

Until the man wins something & is the main reason for doing so, he deserves a lot of the criticism he gets. If a game is on the line, I would choose DW over him to take that shot or lead me to victory any day as he has proven to be able to do it on the biggest stage.

Who said anything about Shaq being in his prime? The fact is that he contributed heavily to that championship, so your comment about Wade doing it "on his own" is utterly ridiculous.
 

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People celebrating like he accomplished something is downright laughable. The reason they won is Chris Bosh but forget all of that for a moment. Take a look at the big picture, people are crowing like he accomplished something when this is his 3rd trip to the finals & he as of now has not sniffed a ring. Crow when we actually wins something.

Wade won the championship on his own, and the reason the Heat won last night was Bosh, huh? :pointer::nohead::laughingb:laugh:The funny thing is that if the Heat DO win-and to me, they're the underdog-people like you will sniff, "So he has ONE, big deal, he said, "not 5, not 6, etc." The point is that people have said he doesn't deliver in the clutch in the post season-and I was one of them,based on last year. However, last year was last year, and with absolutely ludicrous statements like the one above and your gem about Wade winning on his own, it's clear that you don't have an objective bone in your body on this particular topic.
 

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He was the ONLY reason the 06-07 Cavs team won the Eastern Conf. title. That was one of the least talented teams I've ever seen (in fact, when Lebron left they were one of the worst in the league). The criticism he gets is just absurd, and he deserves none of it. He performs at an extremely high level and is arguably the best player of all-time.


So what? If the game is on the line I would prefer Steve Kerr to shoot it over Jordan, it doesn't make him a better basketball player.

Hey, if the game is on the line I can find a better FT shooter than Jordan, therefore Jordan isn't that great, derp derp dderp

"arguably the best player of all-time." Whoa, slow your roll, there, pardner. As you can see in this thread, I'm on YOUR side, but very few people-as in, next to NONE-would make THAT particular argument.
 
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He was the ONLY reason the 06-07 Cavs team won the Eastern Conf. title. That was one of the least talented teams I've ever seen (in fact, when Lebron left they were one of the worst in the league). The criticism he gets is just absurd, and he deserves none of it. He performs at an extremely high level and is arguably the best player of all-time.


So what? If the game is on the line I would prefer Steve Kerr to shoot it over Jordan, it doesn't make him a better basketball player.

Hey, if the game is on the line I can find a better FT shooter than Jordan, therefore Jordan isn't that great, derp derp dderp

Seriously I don't know why I am responding to you as your comments make no utter sense. No one in their right mind would rather have Kerr shoot a game winning shot.

He deserves a lot of the criticism he gets. Anointing yourself as a King when you have won jack shit in terms of championships is beyond absurd. When it has come to crunch time to win a title, he has failed to deliver & in many instances ran away from responsibility. The true great players relish those opportunities. Do we have to revisit his poor performances during crunch time in last year's finals? How about when he clearly quit on the Cavs a few seasons ago & proceeded to walk right out on them. The true legends in this game would have NEVER done those things. They would have gone down swinging good or bad. Even his biggest supporters can't deny that.
 
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" DW has won something & pretty much did it on his own" Gee, there's an objective statement, I'm sure that would come as some surprise to Shaq, and, if you're talking about THIS series, that statement is a joke, Wade had at least as many poor 4th quarters as he did good ones.

He did do it on his own & anyone who watched that series knows it. When it was money time in the 4th Q, who took over pretty much every game, it was DW & Shaq was not even close. As far as this series he in my opinion has gotten a pass for poor play especially in the 1st H. I am not sure if he is not 100% or something but he has not lived up to his rep.
 
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Wade won the championship on his own, and the reason the Heat won last night was Bosh, huh? :pointer::nohead::laughingb:laugh:The funny thing is that if the Heat DO win-and to me, they're the underdog-people like you will sniff, "So he has ONE, big deal, he said, "not 5, not 6, etc." The point is that people have said he doesn't deliver in the clutch in the post season-and I was one of them,based on last year. However, last year was last year, and with absolutely ludicrous statements like the one above and your gem about Wade winning on his own, it's clear that you don't have an objective bone in your body on this particular topic.

Look at the game objectively, Bosh was HUGE for them last night with timely shots & providing a spark to his team. Bosh was a very big reason for their win last night. No, I would not be one to say oh he only has 1. I mean you can only win 1 title at a time & his career is still in its prime.

Any real Heat fan who saw them beat Dallas knows that without Wade especially in the 4th Q, they would not have won.
 

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