Whats your opinion?

[Chinamaster]

Is that really true? Major and Betroyal are affliated with things other than advertisement?

Wow

I love you Clevfan, call my family, call my parents house, real mature

 

[Chinamaster]

Wait you guys, why didnt I ever know Majorwager, Majorbetting.com and Betroyal are affliated......of course the Major wont do anything for me....Im practically fighting against him

 

[Noreaga+]

I dont think royal has anything financially to do with MajorBetting but they provide the call center, CS, wagering, etc

 

[SportSavant]

China, can you answer Bigbet's question?

why didnt you wait till you got home? to settle this?

 

[Chinamaster]

Royal CS
Evan - you cant keep chaning the deal

Royal CS
everytime you do I have to go and tell my CFO !

Evan
i want the most i can get and im willing to give you whatever you can do

Evan
im sorry peter

Royal CS
He is getting pissed at me

Royal CS
If I go in there again he will say "No WU - Evan in check in 30 days !"

Evan
im sorry man, i just need the most i can get, and now you tell me 1200 is the most with one, lets do both 1200 and take 400 more

Royal CS
do you want that Evan ?

Royal CS
Evan listen to me please

Evan
no i dont but i need money man

Royal CS
stop typing and listen !

Royal CS
ok ?

Royal CS
we will go with $2000 over 2 WUs on teh agreed terms

Royal CS
that is a start. hopefully it will go thru

Royal CS
lets not confuse everything and piss off the CFO

Royal CS
otherwise it will be a long time until you see everything ?

Royal CS
ok?




Royal CS
If I go in there again he will say "No WU - Evan in check in 30 days !"

What does that suppose to mean?

 

[Journeyman]

Pathetic on many fronts... Evan you made a real bad deal...You should have been smarter about how to get ALL YOUR MONEY...This may be the dumbest thing I've ever heard of 6000 in WU fees!? And you agreed to this?

 

[Scooter1]

Go to MW "The War Room" and there are lots of pages re: this incident.

 

[Jacksorbetter+]

I'm so confused. $6000 in WU fees? Obviously these were not fees charged by Western Union. That wouldn't be legal by them. They have fees they can charge that are regulated. They can't charge you 125% or so in fees. I'd contact Western Union to see what the actual fees charged for these transactions were. You was robbed my man. I for one will never play with Royal after reading the chat transcripts. I know you were hard up for cash but what they did was plain robbery.

 

[Noreaga+]

JOB

it wasnt a wetsern union fee, they just called it that for the reasoning of taking 6000 out

 

[trytrytry]

Pathetic on many fronts... Evan you made a real bad deal...You should have been smarter about how to get ALL YOUR MONEY...This may be the dumbest thing I've ever heard of 6000 in WU fees!? And you agreed to this?

If Royal can show some evidence from Western Union web site or in some way show that there were $6000 in fees for a $5000 payment to a customer then thats that. Case closed. However, there is no such large fee structure with WEstern Union, so Royal agreed to do something that they could not even do!! that should thow the whole deal out the window in my mind and they are back to square on in needing to get this guy paid in full in a reasonable amount of time.

 

[trytrytry]

if a sportsbook owes you $11000 and you call them on the phone and say hey I only want $5000 you keep the $6000 does anyone here think the sportsbook actually only owes $5000?? The guys account is $11,000 period, if he wants to say keep all of it, keep some of it, bury it or whatver. the account is still $11,000. what am I missing here? what did they think that $6000 was a christmas present to the staff???? Royal wtf?

 

[Jacksorbetter+]

I just called Royal and they said they charge $94 for a max $1200 per day Western Union withdrawal. My math may not be the best but $94 for 4+ max withdrawals doesn't equal $6000.

 

[PatrickMcIrish]

That's pathetic! Charging a player as much as they possibly can because they knew he was desperate for his money? I can't even begin to see how a book justifies taking 6k of an 11k win? They took it because they were able to?


Got to read up on this one, somebody got phucked real good....

 

[THE SHRINK]

I spoke with BOTH of the parties involved yesterday and also this morning. It is my opinion that this gambler should be paid in FULL, period...

I expect that ROYAL will honor what they OWE the player in this case...

When I learn more, I will be happy to share what the final outcome is...

THE SHRINK

 

[Fishhead]

I would certainly hope so.......thanks Shrink.

 

[PatrickMcIrish]

I just read some of those threads, I can't believe what I am reading!!?? That is just absolutely unbelievable. Even if the player agreed to those terms it's sickening the things Royal said to the player. First they couldn't even pay out by WU, then when the fees got outrageous enough for them to rape the guy they could. At one point they suggest he take lithium to calm down? Another time they mention how it's illegal to gamble on line and to look out for the police!? Then the whole time they go with the used car salesman bit about checking with the boss, he is pissed and might not pay you at all if this keeps up! After throwing the fear of GOD in the kid they then work out a deal to take 6k to send him his own money? I can't believe it.


Great job RX if you get this man paid. Please let us know how this one comes out. Incredible.

 

[Chinamaster]

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I played Blackjack at BetRoyal casino and won fair and square. When I wanted a withdrawal I was informed of the payout max. of $5K per week. I did not want to wait, so I begged them to pay me out sooner and offered them a deal. They would not accept the deal so I kept offering and hounding them to accept it. They accepted and paid me out. I was happy with the deal and kept on playing. <o></o>

<o> </o>

It’s true when I had lost all my money in the book I tried to go back on the deal I made with the Royal casino. That’s when I posted. I am sorry to Royal, and especially the customer service People. I pressured them and they helped me. I kind of screwed them over. Royal did not have to pay out but they did. I am happy I got some more money but I learned my lesson. I am going to call Julian now and I hope they will do something for me. <o></o>

<o> </o>

Ken and Pete, I appreciate what you have done here and I am sorry about my bitching. I will report back here how it goes with Julian.<o></o>

<o> </o>

Evan <o></o>

 

[charleslanger]

Hhmm-- the remaining 6G, plus: two plane tickets Hong Kong - NY, a complimentary long-distance calling card good for 7 weekly hours free phone sex time w/ Customer Service honeys, a Western Union gift card good for 8 free withdrawals, 4 public apologies: one each on their site / here / at MW(& full reinstatement there with elevated Mod status) / & a public one in the South China Morning Post, a complimentary lifetime account w/ unlimited 5-cent lines, 11x weekly matching bonus, ten complimentary $100 10-team parlay bets, an extra free 9 points on all teasers, & 12x odds on craps. And finally, as a sign of no personal animosity-- this elegant 3-pen Holder Gift Set(filled of course with three high-quality French(??) Gold Pens: http://www.e-corporategifts.com/d328.html


So now, let's see:

On the twelfth day of Xmas my true love gave to me: twelve-times odds on cra-aps, 'leven ti-imes bonus, ten free-ee parlays, nine extra po-ints, e-eight free withdrawals, seven hours talk time, the six extra G's--
fi--ve ce-ent lines....
four apologies, three French pens, two-o a-irfa-res, and you can stuff the-a partridge!

 

[lurkerforages2]

There can be no doubt that chinamaster was desperate as well as an idiot.

That being said, often its the idiots who need the most protection from bad deals.

Good work by the Shrink here.

If I was Royal I would pay the guy what he is owed minus the correct WU fees and let this thing slide away as a lesson learned.
Either side is not blameless here but Royal should behave in a way that instills confidence in sending money offshore.

 

[WorldRunner]

Yo General, thats not all the transcripts.......I remember many different parts that were not placed in there.......I told everyone from the start....The Major was on their side in the beginning! He yelled and screamed and said Shut the Phuck up on the phone to me....I hope everyone realizes now that the Major is a biased *******...hes where the money is at... I cancelled the vote, I said I did not want the Major involved.....he continued to proceed by ripping on me and ripping on me and ripping on me.

Yeah... Well Major is the kind of guy who lets people on his site make false accusations about other members and then bans the accused before they can even defend themselves. He's a fukking joke.

However...I don't know any of the facts of your situations so for all I know he handled it fine. But It doesn't surprise me.