whats the difference between f1 and nascar?

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I'm a Nascar fan and I only watch a few races on TV because I usually have golf on or I am out playing golf.

Watching a Nascar race live is one of the best sporting events I have ever been to.
 

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Take the restrictor plates off of the Nascar race cars at either Talladega or Daytona and they will run about the same speed as the F-1 car, Nascar kills the power on these cars on the Super Speedway tracks with restrictor plates between the carb. and the intake, because the cars will run super fast if they weren't restricted from full capable horse power, call Nascar race cars led sleds if you like but at about 220+ mph those lead sleds want to go airborne.

F1 cars aren't set up for straight line/oval circuit speed, but for extreme cornering grip. It would be interesting to see an F1 car set up with as little downforce as possible and long gearing. I'm thinking 300mph+ top speed.

A bare F1 car doesn't even weigh 1000 pounds and it develops over 750hp. Teams have to add a couple hundred pounds of ballast to reach the minimum weight requirement. It's an insane machine.
 

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I follow Nascar and F1/Indy some. Track designs,rules, and equalized technology make Nascar more like cage wrestling while open wheel competition is more like a more distant techno game supported by a culture of worldly 'well heeled' horsey crowd corporations (granted, some nascar drivers fly to races in private jets but that is due more to recent profits). I enjoy both ( I grew up with July fourth reverence for open wheel Indy 500 but now follow Nascar more).
A decent recent comparison:
http://tvguide.sympatico.msn.ca/F1+...Couch/Articles/090213_F1_NASCAR_BR.htm?isfa=1
 
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Take the restrictor plates off of the Nascar race cars at either Talladega or Daytona and they will run about the same speed as the F-1 car, Nascar kills the power on these cars on the Super Speedway tracks with restrictor plates between the carb. and the intake, because the cars will run super fast if they weren't restricted from full capable horse power, call Nascar race cars led sleds if you like but at about 220+ mph those lead sleds want to go airborne.


This is not a very intelligent lie! You think people are dumb enough to believe that 1500kg cars are going to go as fast as 600kg cars simply because you removed restrictor plates?

ARe you kidding? Next you are gonna tell us, Albert haynesworth can run as fast as Hussein Bolt if he takes off his football pads.
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I'm a Nascar fan and I only watch a few races on TV because I usually have golf on or I am out playing golf.

Watching a Nascar race live is one of the best sporting events I have ever been to.

Exactly, that crap is no fun on Tv.
 

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god i wish i was this guy. that is lewis hamilton, the big name in f1. apparently he's like the tiger woods of f1. and he is banging one of the hottest chicks.

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F1 cars aren't set up for straight line/oval circuit speed, but for extreme cornering grip. It would be interesting to see an F1 car set up with as little downforce as possible and long gearing. I'm thinking 300mph+ top speed.

A bare F1 car doesn't even weigh 1000 pounds and it develops over 750hp. Teams have to add a couple hundred pounds of ballast to reach the minimum weight requirement. It's an insane machine.


Wow I didnt know that, that would be a pleasure to see I couldnt imagine going 300 mph, Drag Cars do it and it is something to see if you never have.
 

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This is not a very intelligent lie! You think people are dumb enough to believe that 1500kg cars are going to go as fast as 600kg cars simply because you removed restrictor plates?

ARe you kidding? Next you are gonna tell us, Albert haynesworth can run as fast as Hussein Bolt if he takes off his football pads.
:):)


At Stock Car Racing, we hear a lot of buzz about superspeedways that require restrictor plates, such as Daytona, Talladega, and now Loudon. It’s not unusual for us to receive letters with questions about them. To help everyone grasp the basics about restrictor plates, we spoke with longtime Chief Engine Builder Jerry Vess at Andy Petree Racing in East Flat Rock, North Carolina. Vess gave us a thorough understanding of restrictor plates by answering the five most commonly asked questions. Here is what we learned.

In the beginning.
Restrictor plates were used in the early ’70s to slow down the Chrysler Hemis, but they were only used for a few years. As a result of Bill Elliott’s 212.809-mph record qualifying lap during the ’87 season, and to prevent speeds from increasing, the following year modern-day restrictor plates were implemented.



What is a restrictor plate?
A restrictor plate is a thin piece of metal with four holes in the center. The size of the four holes varied during the 2000 Winston Cup season, starting with four 29/32-inch holes. Prior to the DieHard 500 at Talladega in April 2000, the holes were reduced to 7/8 inch, and in September they increased to 1 inch before the Loudon race. But with the 1-inch holes, changes to the car’s body also were made to control the speed.

Where is the restrictor plate located?
It is mounted between the carburetor, which supplies air and fuel to the engine, and the intake manifold.



Why are restrictor plates used?
Restrictor plates are used to slow down and regulate the speed of race cars. Cars are easier to control and safer at slower speeds.

What is the purpose of a restrictor plate?
The holes in the restrictor plate are considerably smaller than on the bottom of the carburetor and top of the intake manifold. These small holes limit the amount of air and fuel that flow into the engine. As a result, the engine is tricked into thinking there’s a smaller carburetor than what is actually being used. This reduces the engine’s power and the car’s speed.



How does a restrictor plate affect the engine?
The engine’s horsepower is reduced. A typical Winston Cup engine produces about 750 hp. When a 1-inch restrictor plate is added, typically one third of the power is taken away, which drops the output to about 500 hp. “This makes the Winston Cup cars run like Busch cars; the engine’s power level is actually a little lower,” says Vess.
Not only does a restrictor plate reduce the engine’s power, but it also hinders its ability to reach the non-plate engine’s 9,000 rpm, lowering it to 7,000 rpm. This creates a challenge to engine builders—because the non-plate engine’s maximum power reaches above 7,000 rpm, the engine has to be built solely for restrictor-plate use. To unlock the maximum horsepower and torque from a restrictor-plate engine below 7,000 rpm, a lot of time and money is spent to test different variations of heads, cams, and intake manifolds to develop the best combination to keep the flow of air constant. Power loss from friction and weight becomes much more severe than in a non-plate engine. Every part of the engine is examined to find ways to reduce weight and friction.

So at 500 horsepower they go 200-235, give them full horse power and the cars will flat out haul ass, but unfortuntly that will never happen because the way a Nascar Racecar is built at 220+ the cars literally want to go airbourne and that is one of the main reason Nascar makes them install restrictor plates on the engines on super speedways ever since when Bobby Allison went into the grand stands at Talladega airbourne I was at that race so I saw it.
 
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yes restrictor plates make the cars slower. I could have saved you a lot of time.


Anyways, plate or not there is no way 1500 kg car can keep up with a 600 kg one. That is a lot of freaking weight. Nascar = sled
 

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yes restrictor plates make the cars slower. I could have saved you a lot of time.


Anyways, plate or not there is no way 1500 kg car can keep up with a 600 kg one. That is a lot of freaking weight. Nascar = sled

And your still wrong weight has nothing to do with it, so for example which I know that A Top Fuel dragster pushes about 7,000 horsepower but it weighs 2,250 pounds ( LEAD SLED ) converted in kg that would be 1020 kg, so there for weight dont mean anything you build enough horsepower anything will run regardless of weight and by the weigh Top Fuel runs out at about 300+ mph.

But I wont get into a pissing contest over this just simply stating build the horsepower and a school bus will haul ass, this is just my opinion F1 and Nascar are alot of fun to watch and both cars will haul ass. Have a great evening, Sir.
 
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yes restrictor plates make the cars slower. I could have saved you a lot of time.


Anyways, plate or not there is no way 1500 kg car can keep up with a 600 kg one. That is a lot of freaking weight. Nascar = sled


give him credit, he tries really hard to sell that tall tale.@):mad:
 

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