gamblingislife,
"How do you know the american isn't another Abraham Lincoln and the foreigner another Osama Bin Laden. Then go to any middle eastern country and ask them."
I said or vice versa in my post. If you're going to argue please say something of substance.
All this bla, bla about Muslim, Iraqi, American, I mean COME ON! Some many here that claim to be christian here. A LIFE IS A LIFE! An American life is more valuble than that of another nation, what a sick premise, a KKK memeber would say the same of a white life over a black life. Some of you people really need to analize what you are saying! Are we civilized beings or not? Where's the humanity?
"How do you know the american isn't another Abraham Lincoln and the foreigner another Osama Bin Laden. Then go to any middle eastern country and ask them."
I said or vice versa in my post. If you're going to argue please say something of substance.
All this bla, bla about Muslim, Iraqi, American, I mean COME ON! Some many here that claim to be christian here. A LIFE IS A LIFE! An American life is more valuble than that of another nation, what a sick premise, a KKK memeber would say the same of a white life over a black life. Some of you people really need to analize what you are saying! Are we civilized beings or not? Where's the humanity?
Kaya
Why don't you try reading all my post i said "I place value on all life." I'm an American and if it's between an American and an Iraqi i'm choosing the American. I never said kill em all. I'm not for killing all iraqis or innocent people and i'm hoping for as little bloodshed as possible. And while your asking for substance. I want some from you. Instead of saying this war and Bush are stupid and bla bla bla, why don't you tell us what we should do about a murdering dictator, who kills his own people indiscriminatly? Instead of telling everyone what we shouldn't do, try telling us what we should do then maybe you'd have something constuctive to say.
As far as my humanity goes i've got an experiance for you. I have no problem telling anyone i was in the first gulf war. The first day of the war i was flown deep into iraq where i stayed for 32 days living in a hole in the ground. The day we pulled out we were driven by 5 ton trucks out of iraq. On a in what could only be descibed as tire track trial very hungary iraqis flanked our truck begging for food. We had only MRE's and i saw a little girl approximately 4 years old, i threw her the food and out of no where a guy around 30 ran her over and grabbed the food. Not many days go by where i don't think of this little girl laying on the ground crying. This is one very big reason why i feel it's important to have Saddam overthrown. Oh by the way my wife is from Pakistan came here when she was 15 we support humanitarian efforts with our pocketbook. And my ex-wife is hispanic which would make my children half hispanic. Don't always judge a book by it's cover you don't know whats inside.
Why don't you try reading all my post i said "I place value on all life." I'm an American and if it's between an American and an Iraqi i'm choosing the American. I never said kill em all. I'm not for killing all iraqis or innocent people and i'm hoping for as little bloodshed as possible. And while your asking for substance. I want some from you. Instead of saying this war and Bush are stupid and bla bla bla, why don't you tell us what we should do about a murdering dictator, who kills his own people indiscriminatly? Instead of telling everyone what we shouldn't do, try telling us what we should do then maybe you'd have something constuctive to say.
As far as my humanity goes i've got an experiance for you. I have no problem telling anyone i was in the first gulf war. The first day of the war i was flown deep into iraq where i stayed for 32 days living in a hole in the ground. The day we pulled out we were driven by 5 ton trucks out of iraq. On a in what could only be descibed as tire track trial very hungary iraqis flanked our truck begging for food. We had only MRE's and i saw a little girl approximately 4 years old, i threw her the food and out of no where a guy around 30 ran her over and grabbed the food. Not many days go by where i don't think of this little girl laying on the ground crying. This is one very big reason why i feel it's important to have Saddam overthrown. Oh by the way my wife is from Pakistan came here when she was 15 we support humanitarian efforts with our pocketbook. And my ex-wife is hispanic which would make my children half hispanic. Don't always judge a book by it's cover you don't know whats inside.
I'm not judging a book by it's cover. Just judging your comments.
Substance, I got post all over the place that speak for themselves.
What we should do about that murderous dictator, well stop using that as a cover to look for oil. Did we oust Pinochet? Castro, etc? It's not up to us to decide who should lead another nation, we should have learned that much from Nam. How would we like it as Americans if a country attacked us because they thought we needed to change leaders or governmental systems.
BTW, that is a touching story about the little girl. One the other hand a lot of people in Nicaragua suffer from hunger it would be a lot cheaper and not require a war to help them.
Substance, I got post all over the place that speak for themselves.
What we should do about that murderous dictator, well stop using that as a cover to look for oil. Did we oust Pinochet? Castro, etc? It's not up to us to decide who should lead another nation, we should have learned that much from Nam. How would we like it as Americans if a country attacked us because they thought we needed to change leaders or governmental systems.
BTW, that is a touching story about the little girl. One the other hand a lot of people in Nicaragua suffer from hunger it would be a lot cheaper and not require a war to help them.
Kaya
You did judge me without knowing me. May not make you racist but does make you closed minded. Next time don't be so fast to play your race card, makes you look like the biggot.
Wanted to say more but i deceided to take the high road. You have your opinion and i have mine and i'll leave it at that.
You did judge me without knowing me. May not make you racist but does make you closed minded. Next time don't be so fast to play your race card, makes you look like the biggot.
Wanted to say more but i deceided to take the high road. You have your opinion and i have mine and i'll leave it at that.
This is NO difference between the life of an innocent American citizen and an innocent Iraqi citizen.
They are equal in value.
Boundries are abstract, blood is NOT.
They are equal in value.
Boundries are abstract, blood is NOT.
... and we're not exactly a 3rd World poverished nation having it's resources stripped by the US war machine are we?
I don't care what they say, right is right.
I don't care what they say, right is right.
American or Iraqi, billionaire or peasant, muslim or jew, soldier or civilian, and for you animal lovers and tree huggers out there..cockroach or plumtree. More valuable? That's too easy. Who can answer that but the person who is living that life? Make yourselves feel great with the "everyone and everything is EQUALLY valuable. As if the quality of that life doesn't matter. How many of you "equals" would switch places with one of those Kurds in the mountains or one of those mud hut dwellers in the south of Iraq. Now ask one of those same people if they would switch with you. Yet the people who are against this war so much so that they've taken to the streets of this country and others in the name of Saddam so that their Iraqi "equals" may remain in the lifestyle to which they are accustomed. A better way of life isn't worth a single life lost, they say. Freedom isn't worth a single life, they say. A life with torture, rape, tyranny and oppression is worth as much as a life of free will, they say. I say BULLSHIT! I also say that thank God we are not our forefathers who fought for our freedoms or we WOULD all be equal..."equally" suppressed and "equally" submissive to whoever had the biggest stick. Thank God the USA has that stick now and is willing to fight for not only our rights, but others. Seems to me the only ones puting value on the lives of the Iraqi's is the US government (and a very few others). So much so that lives ARE being lost..on all sides..to free them. But I forgot, it's not worth it.
Very well typed.
"Walter Williams is my hero" outandup 2002
"Walter Williams is my hero" outandup 2002
I wonder if Razz & Out would have had the same answers if you asked them in the 60's "what's more valueble, a white's life or a black's life?"
Predjudice appears to be a sign of lack of evolution. Probably a tough cycle to break when your constantly picking from the same gene pool, right Out?
Predjudice appears to be a sign of lack of evolution. Probably a tough cycle to break when your constantly picking from the same gene pool, right Out?
We have marines dying to free Iraqis (is that marines life worth more to me than an iraqi, your damn right it is). this war would be over if the US wasn't worried about the crying liberals.
I guess you and your leftest comrads think we shouldn't bomb a church if those bastards are killing marines from inside.
we would be speaking german if it was up to you leftest, thank god it's not.
"Walter Williams is my hero" outandup 2002
I guess you and your leftest comrads think we shouldn't bomb a church if those bastards are killing marines from inside.
we would be speaking german if it was up to you leftest, thank god it's not.
"Walter Williams is my hero" outandup 2002
Marines wouldn't be dying if we weren't unjustly attacking Iraq would they?
I still can't recall Iraq attacking America or bombing our cities, but when/if I do you'll be the first one to get an appology.
Until then, keep cheering the "war" that you & Dubya don't have the balls to fight.
I still can't recall Iraq attacking America or bombing our cities, but when/if I do you'll be the first one to get an appology.
Until then, keep cheering the "war" that you & Dubya don't have the balls to fight.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FunkSoulBrother:
Razz, just because we wouldn't switch places with an Iraqi doesn't mean that an American life has more value.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Couldn't agree more, but the point was that none of us can presume to know if someone's life is more valuable that anyone else's. Ask the one who lives that life. The switching thing was a hypothetical. Even if you made the switch it would still be YOUR life, just different. Only you could tell if it was then worthless or just worth less, or not.
[This message was edited by RAZZ on 03-25-03 at 10:42 PM.]
Razz, just because we wouldn't switch places with an Iraqi doesn't mean that an American life has more value.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Couldn't agree more, but the point was that none of us can presume to know if someone's life is more valuable that anyone else's. Ask the one who lives that life. The switching thing was a hypothetical. Even if you made the switch it would still be YOUR life, just different. Only you could tell if it was then worthless or just worth less, or not.
[This message was edited by RAZZ on 03-25-03 at 10:42 PM.]
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lander:
I wonder if Razz & Out would have had the same answers if you asked them in the 60's "what's more valueble, a white's life or a black's life?"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You arrogant dipshit. Yesterday I was killing innocent Americans, or was it innocent civilians, no, no, it was innocent liberals, oh hell, maybe it was innocent liberal americans. Let me know if you ever figured it out. But today... I'm a racist. You are simply pathetic. Is life a little easier for you if you can "label" us or put us all in little "boxes"? There are drugs for paranoia you know. My suggestion, empty the bottle. Oh hell, did I just make myself out to be a drug pusher? Get out the label maker again.
I wonder if Razz & Out would have had the same answers if you asked them in the 60's "what's more valueble, a white's life or a black's life?"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You arrogant dipshit. Yesterday I was killing innocent Americans, or was it innocent civilians, no, no, it was innocent liberals, oh hell, maybe it was innocent liberal americans. Let me know if you ever figured it out. But today... I'm a racist. You are simply pathetic. Is life a little easier for you if you can "label" us or put us all in little "boxes"? There are drugs for paranoia you know. My suggestion, empty the bottle. Oh hell, did I just make myself out to be a drug pusher? Get out the label maker again.
"Yesterday I was killing innocent Americans, or was it innocent civilians, no, no, it was innocent liberals, oh hell, maybe it was innocent liberal americans. Let me know if you ever figured it out."
Razz, I thought we were done with this. Did you or did you not say -
"What an idiot Joey---Sometimes I almost wish that the U.S. would take one hour--just ONE hour and take out as many civilians as possible. Just to show you "baby killer" chanting morons exactly what they have the abilty to do if they were as evil as you believe they are. Soldiers are being killed right now for no other reason than to protect as many innocents as possible."
"More valuable? That's too easy. Who can answer that but the person who is living that life? Make yourselves feel great with the "everyone and everything is EQUALLY valuable. As if the quality of that life doesn't matter."
Are you suggesting that people with a higher quality of life are more valuable?
Fidel Castro has a higher quality of life than you, does this make him more "valuable" than you?
Razz, I thought we were done with this. Did you or did you not say -
"What an idiot Joey---Sometimes I almost wish that the U.S. would take one hour--just ONE hour and take out as many civilians as possible. Just to show you "baby killer" chanting morons exactly what they have the abilty to do if they were as evil as you believe they are. Soldiers are being killed right now for no other reason than to protect as many innocents as possible."
"More valuable? That's too easy. Who can answer that but the person who is living that life? Make yourselves feel great with the "everyone and everything is EQUALLY valuable. As if the quality of that life doesn't matter."
Are you suggesting that people with a higher quality of life are more valuable?
Fidel Castro has a higher quality of life than you, does this make him more "valuable" than you?
Alex,
According to Jeffry22 a Nicaraguan would probably have more value.
"Costa ricans are inferior, they merit no concern!"
http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?q=Y&a=tpc&s=100090022&f=9103084407&m=1843055707&p=1
According to Jeffry22 a Nicaraguan would probably have more value.
"Costa ricans are inferior, they merit no concern!"
http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?q=Y&a=tpc&s=100090022&f=9103084407&m=1843055707&p=1
