what made that piece of shit Zidane head butt?

[HPark1]

I sort of agree with MarinersFan in the sense Matterazzi should've shown more respect to a player of Zidane's statue who was playing in his last ever competitive match. They had been battling for 110 minutes in a world cup final and it was a wrong time to create a tense situation.

Anyone remember when Andrew Bynum "schooled" Shaq in the post and then celebrated in his face? I don't recall exactly how it went down but I remember Shaq getting in a blatant hard shot to Bynum seconds later. Shaq got off pretty easy as people just accepted Bynum reacted wrongly and the veteran almost had the right to retaliate.

 

[fhmesq44]

I sort of agree with MarinersFan in the sense Matterazzi should've shown more respect to a player of Zidane's statue who was playing in his last ever competitive match. They had been battling for 110 minutes in a world cup final and it was a wrong time to create a tense situation.

Anyone remember when Andrew Bynum "schooled" Shaq in the post and then celebrated in his face? I don't recall exactly how it went down but I remember Shaq getting in a blatant hard shot to Bynum seconds later. Shaq got off pretty easy as people just accepted Bynum reacted wrongly and the veteran almost had the right to retaliate.

When you show too much respect to a player you lose a competitive edge. Zidane is just another player between the lines. The respect is shown to the world cup, your teammates and country.

What happens if he is in the clear with an open lane to goal? You don't take him down b/c he is "the great Zizou"? Zidane is the idiot here, not Materazzi. As someone else said, mindgames are part of sport. They always have been and always will be. Guys cross the line all the time. Nothing will make right what Materazzi said and it very well may have been entirely classless, bigoted and ignorant. Frankly, I am sure it was at least one of those three.

HOWEVER, one simply can't react like Zidane did. There will always be time for redemption later with the best redemption being REMAINING ON THE PITCH AND WINNING THE F*ING GAME. Whether his mother or sister was called a whore or he was called a dirty terrorist, told to f*k himself in the a$$ or Materazzi said he would prefer ZZ's wife's shirt to ZZ's. Those things are said ALL the time on sporting fields to get in someone else's head, often with no intention other than just that. This can't be the first time someone said something awful about ZZ's mother/wife/sister in the middle of a game.

All of these Zidane apologists are a joke. Literally nothing someone could say to me with 10 minutes left in the world cup final could set me off like that. I have never seen Thierry Henry, Eto'o, whoever, take a swing at a player or charge into the stands when they have bananas thrown at them or monkey sounds made at them, or I am sure endless N bombs dropped on them. How can anything said to Zidane be worse than that?

 

[Romanowski]

Materazzi, 32, told Gazetta dello Sport: 'I held his shirt for a few seconds only, then he turned to me and talked to me, jeering.

'He looked at me with a huge arrogance and said, `If you really want my shirt I'll give it to you afterwards'. I replied with an insult, that's true.'

Materazzi has not elaborated on what he did say, but one report suggested he responded with: `I'd rather take the shirt off your wife'.

He has denied, however, some of the more vile insults referring to his wife or sister or calling him a terrorist.

'It was one of those insults you're told dozens of times and that you often let fall on a pitch,' Materazzi said.

Zidane himself is yet to speak on the incident but his agent yesterday claimed the reaction was due to a 'very serious' comment.

 

[HPark1]

When you show too much respect to a player you lose a competitive edge. Zidane is just another player between the lines. The respect is shown to the world cup, your teammates and country.

What happens if he is in the clear with an open lane to goal? You don't take him down b/c he is "the great Zizou"? Zidane is the idiot here, not Materazzi. As someone else said, mindgames are part of sport. They always have been and always will be. Guys cross the line all the time. Nothing will make right what Materazzi said and it very well may have been entirely classless, bigoted and ignorant. Frankly, I am sure it was at least one of those three.

HOWEVER, one simply can't react like Zidane did. There will always be time for redemption later with the best redemption being REMAINING ON THE PITCH AND WINNING THE F*ING GAME. Whether his mother or sister was called a whore or he was called a dirty terrorist, told to f*k himself in the a$$ or Materazzi said he would prefer ZZ's wife's shirt to ZZ's. Those things are said ALL the time on sporting fields to get in someone else's head, often with no intention other than just that. This can't be the first time someone said something awful about ZZ's mother/wife/sister in the middle of a game.

All of these Zidane apologists are a joke. Literally nothing someone could say to me with 10 minutes left in the world cup final could set me off like that. I have never seen Thierry Henry, Eto'o, whoever, take a swing at a player or charge into the stands when they have bananas thrown at them or monkey sounds made at them, or I am sure endless N bombs dropped on them. How can anything said to Zidane be worse than that?

Respect shouldn't just be for your country and team. You should respect your opponents and the game itself. Its one thing to trash talk with generic insults about the player (ie. you're soft, a bitch, ugly, can't do this or that). That is fair game. To start to go further is unsavoury and goes against fair play. Of course that doesn't give the victim of the comments to commit a flagrant crime. Its impossible to justify headbutting or any other violent act. However imo they are both equally in the wrong.

As for the actual comments its unfair to judge as we don't know what they were and to what circumstances surrounded them. I've read Zidane's mother is gravely ill and if the comments involved this and Zidane believed Materrazzi knew about the situation its beyond wrong. It could also be a case of miscommunication where Zidane interpreted something wrongly, who knows.

 

[Masxmenos]

he called him a terrorist from what ive read. that aint shit though compared to what happens to blacks in italy and spain

Which blacks? The ones living there for many years or the 200,000 fucking immigrants that come every year to sell fake purses, drugs, guns and create slums?

That is why Spain is doing what it is, the immigrants are destroying not only the culture by not adapting but the integrity of the country.

 

[Masxmenos]

you tihnk what they do to blacks in spain and italy are mind games to. its blatant racism pretty much.

And you live in Spain and Italy? I am just curious how you are getting this first hand knowledge and how it is racism?

 

[HPark1]

Which blacks? The ones living there for many years or the 200,000 fucking immigrants that come every year to sell fake purses, drugs, guns and create slums?

That is why Spain is doing what it is, the immigrants are destroying not only the culture by not adapting but the integrity of the country.

:monsters-

Uh I think he was referring to the black soccer players...

Really inappropriate comments here.

 

[Masxmenos]

:monsters-

Uh I think he was referring to the black soccer players...

Really inappropriate comments here.

Oh, ooops. My bad.

Yes, that is a bit harsh to treat differently a soccer player based on his color of skin, religious preference, sexual orientation, etc.

I thought you were referring to how great Venice and Pisa has turned out to be with all the black African immigrants that sells fake purses, drugs, guns and pester the people.

 

[charleslanger]

Materazzi admits he insulted Zidane before head butt

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=373723&cc=5901

I love this part:

"I held his shirt for a few seconds only, then he turned round and spoke to me, sneering," the Italian defender told the newspaper. "He looked me up and down, arrogantly and said: 'If you really want my shirt, I'll give it to you afterwards.'" uppy:

 

[joelatti]

Fvck Zidane! :finger::finger::finger:

Seems like every reporter out there is trying to justify ZZ's action, and making Matterazzi out to be the bad guy. This is not the first time ZZ acted stupid (1998 against a Saudi Arabian player), yet people are making him a saint.

ZZ's head butt could have cracked Matterazzi's sternum for all we know... yet the press is still glorifying the guy. Regardless of what was said, you just don't do stupid thing like that and hang your team out to dry...

And the Arab Muslim insult attributed to Matterazzi? Have to wonder whether the Saudi Arabian dude that was on the receiving end of ZZ's Red Card in 1998 was Italian Catholic? uppy:uppy:uppy:




Great post...The guys been playing soccer 27 years..You think he hasn;t heard it ALL by now and it NEVER matters what someone says it ONLY matters what someone DOES......ZZ was the captain of the French national team...If one of my High School guys did something like that I wouldn't accept it..This guy is supposed to be the BEST??? Anyway it didn't matter...Guy hit the croos bar...he was going to take a penalty kick regardless....

 

[fhmesq44]

Zidane: Materazzi insulted my mother and sister

Zinedine Zidane has publicly apologised for his sending-off in the World Cup final, but claimed he did not regret his actions against Marco Materazzi.

Zidane, who was captaining his country in his final match before retirement, stated that Materazzi insulted his mother and sister in the seconds leading up to the incident, which saw the France midfielder thrust his head into the Italy defender's chest.

'I reacted badly and I would like to apologise for it,' Zidane told Canal Plus. 'I would like to apologise because a lot of children were watching the match. I do apologise but I don't regret my behaviour because regretting it would mean he was right to say what he said.

'There was no tension with Materazzi before or during the match.

'He just put his hand onto my shirt and I told him to stop. I told him that if he wanted it I could give it to him at the end of the match.

'Then he said very harsh words to me and repeated them several times. I left but then I went back towards him and things went very fast. The words he said concerned my mother and sister.

'I heard them once, then twice, and the third time I couldn't control myself. I am a man and some words are harder to hear than actions. I would have rather been knocked down than hear that.'

'Afterwards I explained to the referee that I had been provoked, but my behaviour is not forgivable,' Zidane said.

Without Zidane, who had earlier given France the lead with a penalty, extra-time finished with the score locked at 1-1, and Zidane's team lost the penalty shoot-out 5-3 to Italy.

Asked whether he plans to attend FIFA hearings into the incident, Zidane said that he would seek to defend himself.

'I will go and I will tell everything I have just said,' he added. 'The reaction is always punished but if there is no provocation there is no reaction. The guilty person is the one who provokes.

'If I reacted that way, it is because something bad happened. Do you really believe that 10 minutes before the end of my career I would be able to make such a bad gesture? The provocation was very serious.'

The incident was a sad way to end what has been a glittering career for Zidane, but he insisted he would not change his mind about retiring.

'This is a decision I have made and I will not go back on it,' he said. 'This is definite. I will not play again.'

Materazzi himself, who scored the equaliser for Italy on Sunday, made a statement of his own while Zidane was speaking on French television.

'I didn't mention anything about religion, politics or racism,' he said. 'I didn't insult his mother. I lost my mother when I was 15 years old and still get emotional when I talk about it.

'Naturally, I didn't know that his mother was in hospital but I wish her all the best.

'Zidane is my hero and I have always admired him a lot.'