Put it like this....if you know you are in the right and someone tells you that you are doing something wrong even though you know 1000000% you are in the right.....
Why would you follow what they ask of you?
Id just tell them to eat a dick and walk away from me. And if you really want issues go ahead and call the security. Call the cops. Do what you want. I don’t care because they will come here and educate you.
That’s what my response would be. And I know you don’t think I’m smarter than most....so what is it? Are they doing something they shouldn’t be doing? Um yes.
Why would you follow what they ask of you?
Id just tell them to eat a dick and walk away from me. And if you really want issues go ahead and call the security. Call the cops. Do what you want. I don’t care because they will come here and educate you.
That’s what my response would be. And I know you don’t think I’m smarter than most....so what is it? Are they doing something they shouldn’t be doing? Um yes.
It’s either....I’m very smart and know more than all of you....OR the patriots have employees that are willing to do what they have to do to provide information to their team that they know gives their team advantages.
Its common knowledge that the patriots cheated. We all know that. Just really to what extent and how often is the question
Its common knowledge that the patriots cheated. We all know that. Just really to what extent and how often is the question
It's common knowledge that you masturbate daily over your Lamar Jackson posters, AND that his team the Baltimore Ravens are known cheaters, who have been cheating at football
for decades. How come you've been so silent about that ass-clown?
[h=1]Baltimore Ravens Cheating History[/h]
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TL;DR:• the RAVENS are TOUCH ABOVE AVERAGE NFL cheaters!
• they have a CheatScore of 35
• they have a CheatScore of 35
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• they've executed 10 real cheats! ?
• share page: http://YourTeamCheats.com/BAL?
INDEX OF RECORDED RAVENS CHEATS:
RAVENS-ONLY: PEDSgate (7x since 2005) • Impedegate (2013) •Challengegate (2009 & 2011) • Bountygate (2008) • Deflategate (2002) •Antlergate (2013) • Injurygate (2012) • Practicegate (2016)
LEAGUEWIDE: Tampergate (ongoing) • Headsetgate (ongoing) •Spygate (until 2006) • Scrapsgate (ongoing)
[h=1]All Baltimore Ravens Cheats:[/h][h=2]PEDSgate (7x since 2005)
SEVERITY:
SUMMARY: Performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs) are used by players to illegally improve athletic performance above what legal training and preparation can do.
Players who illegally improve their performance unfairly penalize players who follow the rules. They not only put those players at risk for physical injury, but they also affect their economic livelihood by impacting their perceived value and their ability to secure appropriately-valued playing contracts.
SEVERITY = 0.5 video cameras per punished incident. Includes all documented infractions from 1960 to present with this Wikipedia page as the primary source.
- CB Deion Sanders (2005)
- CB Asa Jackson (2012 & 2013)
- DT Haloti Ngata (2014)
- TE Nick Boyle (2015 & 2016)
- RB Kenneth Dixon (2017)
PUNISHED? Yes
PUNISHMENT: Ngata was suspended for four games. Jackson was suspended for 4 games in 2012 and another 8 games in 2013 since it was his second infraction. Boyle was suspended for 4 games in 2015 and another 10 games in 2016.
SHARE: http://YourTeamCheats.com/BAL#PEDSgate-2005
CHEATPOINTS EARNED:+ 7.0
[h=2]Impedegate (2013)
SEVERITY:
SUMMARY: With the Ravens leading 34-31 with four seconds left in Super Bowl XLVII and readying themselves for a free kick after taking a deliberate safety, Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco was heard telling teammates to come off the sideline and tackle 49ers' returner Ted Ginn Jr., if need be.
Flacco, who was one of many players wearing a microphone for NFL Films, told teammates Dennis Pitta and Matt Birk on the sideline that they couldn't let Ginn run free. "If he starts to break it, go tackle him," Flacco told Pitta.
The bold and ridiculously unsportsmanlike plan, though never implemented, would not have likely worked since, according to Rule 12, Section 3, Article 3 in the NFL Rule Book: Palpably Unfair Act. "A player or substitute shall not interfere with play by any act which is palpably unfair. Penalty: For a palpably unfair act: Offender may be disqualified. The Referee, after consulting his crew, enforces any such distance penalty as they consider equitable and irrespective of any other specified code penalty. The Referee may award a score."
VICTIM: San Francisco 49ers (The cheat was pre-meditated but was not able to be executed)
PUNISHED? No but ... it's more probable than not that this was cheating
PUNISHMENT: There was no punishment because Flacco and friends didn't get their chance to execute this dastardly devious cheat. It would have been the best-worst Super Bowl ending ever and would have absolutely obliterated the CheatScore calculator on this site.
Watch the sideline video again and judge for yourself if you think Flacco was joking or serious about the plan. The commish rules that Flacco was 100% dead serious.
SHARE: http://YourTeamCheats.com/BAL#Impedegate-2013
CHEATPOINTS EARNED:+ 4.0
[h=2]Challengegate (2009 & 2011)
SEVERITY:
SUMMARY: In their 2011 game with the the Baltimore Ravens, the Pittsburgh Steelers were faced with a 4th and 1 situation and decided to go for it.
As the Baltimore Ravens were unprepared for the 4th-down play, Ravens head coach John Harbaugh threw a challenge flag which challenged nothing but served to illegally delay the play, thus buying his defense a moment of rest and preparation for Pittsburgh's 4th down play.
There was nothing remotely challengeable on the play. It was simply an illegal tactic that Harbaugh used to rest his defense without having to use a timeout. Harbaugh executed this same illegal move against the Colts in November of 2009.
In this instance, Harbaugh and the Ravens should have been assessed a delay of game. At the time, the NFL did not have a rule in place stipulating that once a challenge flag was thrown it could not be picked up without the loss of a challenge or the assessment of a timeout.
VICTIM: Pittsburgh Steelers (Also the Indianapolis Colts in 2009)
PUNISHED? No but ... it's more probable than not that this was cheating
PUNISHMENT: It's all on tape right here. It is more probable than not that Harbaugh was at least generally aware that his challenges were illegal.
SHARE: http://YourTeamCheats.com/BAL#Challengegate-2009
CHEATPOINTS EARNED:+ 4.0
[h=2]Bountygate (2008)
SEVERITY:
SUMMARY: Ravens Terrell Suggs said that the Baltimore Ravens had a "bounty" on Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Hines Ward and running back Rashard Mendenhall. During the "2 Live Stews" syndicated radio show on Oct. 17, 2008, when he was asked, "Did you all put a bounty out on that young man [Mendenhall]," Suggs replied, "Definitely. The bounty was out on him and the bounty was out on [Ward] -- we just didn't get him between the whistles."
During the interview, Suggs called Ward "a dirty player" and "a cheap-shot artist, saying "we got something in store for him." Ward, who appeared on "PTI" a few days later, said the bounty talk was "a big honor." Continued Ward, "I am really not going to comment, but all I have to say to Mr. Suggs is there's a policy in the NFL [against bounties] he should read."
VICTIM: Pittsburgh Steelers
PUNISHED? No but ... it's more probable than not that this was cheating
PUNISHMENT: Under light questioning, Suggs outright admitted to the charge
SHARE: http://YourTeamCheats.com/BAL#Bountygate-2008
CHEATPOINTS EARNED:+ 4.0
[h=2]Deflategate (2002)
SEVERITY:
SUMMARY: Ex-Ravens and retired Pro Bowl quarterback Jeff Blake confessed in an interview that removing air from footballs was common when he played in the NFL from 1992-2005.
"I'm just going to let the cat of the bag, every team does it, every game, it has been since I played," the ex-Ravens QB said Wednesday in a radio interview on the "Midday 180" show on Nashville's 104.5 The Zone. "Cause when you take the balls out of the bag, they are rock hard. And you can't feel the ball as well. It's too hard.
"Everybody puts the pin in and takes just enough air out of the ball that you can feel it a little better. But it's not the point to where it's flat. So I don't know what the big deal is. It's not something that's not been done for 20 years."
Blake says that he'd order ball boys to let air out of his footballs just before the start of games during his entire NFL career, which included time with the Baltimore Ravens in 2002.
VICTIM: The entire league
PUNISHED? No but ... it's more probable than not that this was cheating
PUNISHMENT: Their quarterback admitted that he cheated.
SHARE: http://YourTeamCheats.com/BAL#Deflategate-2002
CHEATPOINTS EARNED:+ 2.0
[h=2]Antlergate (2013)
SEVERITY:
SUMMARY: David Epstein and George Dohrmann reported that Sports with Alternatives to Steroids (S.W.A.T.S.) owner Mitch Ross recorded a phone conversation with Baltimore Ravens Linebacker Ray Lewis after the linebacker's injury in October.
"Hours after he tore his triceps during an Oct. 14 home game against the Cowboys, Ravens All-Pro linebacker Ray Lewis and Ross connected on the phone. Again, Ross videotaped the call."
On the call, the two allegedly discuss the treatment that Lewis would undergo in order to return to the field as quickly as possible. Toward the end of the talk, Lewis asked Ross to "just pile me up and just send me everything you got, because I got to get back on this this week."
The deer-antler spray contains IGF-1, which is on the NFL's list of banned substances.
VICTIM: The entire league
PUNISHED? No but ... it's more probable than not that this was cheating
PUNISHMENT: It is more probable than not that Ray Lewis was at least generally aware that he was completely cheating by ordering and taking a banned substance to illegally enhance his performance.
SHARE: http://YourTeamCheats.com/BAL#Antlergate-2013
CHEATPOINTS EARNED:+ 2.0
[h=2]Injurygate (2012)
SEVERITY:
SUMMARY: In October 2012, the league fined the Baltimore Ravens $20,000 for not including Ed Reed's shoulder injury on their team injury report. It was the same amount the Redskins and Bills were fined for similar infractions that year. Reed had revealed in a radio interview that he was playing with a torn labrum. He didn't miss any practice or playing time, but that doesn't matter. The league requires that all injuries be reported.
In a move reminiscent of a snotty teenager rebelling against their parents, a week after the Ravens received the fine they listed a whopping 15 players on their injury report.
VICTIM: The entire league
PUNISHED? Yes
PUNISHMENT: The Ravens were fined $20,000
SHARE: http://YourTeamCheats.com/BAL#Injurygate-2012
[h=2]Practicegate (2016)
SEVERITY:
SUMMARY:
As reported by Jeff Zrebiec of the Baltimore Sun, "The NFL came down hard on the Ravens on Thursday, ordering them to forfeit three organized team activities and fining the organization and coach John Harbaugh nearly $500,000 for violating the league’s collective bargaining agreement during the team’s rookie minicamp earlier this month.
The league investigated the Ravens cheating scandal and determined that the team illegally had rookies in full pads despite league rules prohibiting full-pad practices until training camp.
It remains unclear if Ravens head coach John Harbaugh was bending the rules to give his team a slight advantage or simply (once again) ignorant of NFL rules.
VICTIM: The entire league
PUNISHED? Yes
PUNISHMENT: The team and coach were fined $500,000 and forced to forfeit three organized team activities.
SHARE: http://YourTeamCheats.com/BAL#Practicegate-2016
CHEATPOINTS EARNED:+ 2.0
[h=1]Leaguewide Cheats:[/h][h=2]Tampergate (ongoing)
SEVERITY:
SUMMARY: Tampering with free agents is rampant, it's laughable and it is against the rules (PDF). It's so bad across every team in the league that the NFL had to create a three-day legal tampering period. However, tampering still regularly occurs long before that annual three-day window opens. On March 9, 2015 the league once again felt compelled to warn all 32 teams about not tampering.
Why is tampering considered a problem? Because tampering with players still under contract makes it difficult for clubs to re-sign their own talent. It also puts those few teams that actually follow NFL guidelines at a distinct disadvantage. In many cases, contract agreements are in place days before any negotiations are allowed to begin.
This isn't fair, it isn't legal, and it is blatant cheating by the teams who engage in the practice.
VICTIM: The entire league
PUNISHED? No but...
PUNISHMENT: NFL commissioner and former Jets public relations intern Roger Goodell is doing all he can to curtail and punish the "commonplace" practice, although it admits that there is so much tampering that it is hard to police it all.
The CheatPoints earned for this leaguewide cheat is for all of this team's tampering incidents that have gone undiscovered or unproven. If specific instances are discovered, they are punished on top of this leaguewide penalty.
SHARE: http://YourTeamCheats.com/BAL#Tampergate-1960
CHEATPOINTS EARNED:+ 4.0
[h=2]Headsetgate (ongoing)
SEVERITY:
SUMMARY: it's a common complaint around the NFL. In late, close games, the helmet communicators of visiting teams suddenly "malfunction" and stop working. It has been accepted as standard practice in the league. Are you on the road and the game is close? Then you are going to have problems with your headset.
In recent years, the Patriots have accused the Colts of doing it and the Jaguars have made the same charge of the Patriots. The Redskins accused the Buccaneers of disabling their headsets, and Tampa Bay accused Dallas. The Giants openly bragged about doing it way back in 1956. The charges go on and on and on.
VICTIM: The entire league
PUNISHED? No
SHARE: http://YourTeamCheats.com/BAL#Headsetgate-1980
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SEVERITY:
SUMMARY: Stealing your opponent's signals has always been common and neverbeen illegal.
Said former Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Bill Cowher, "We had people that always tried to steal signals. Stealing someone's signals was a part of the game, and everyone attempted to do that." Admitted former Dallas Cowboys head coach Jimmy Johnson: "When I came into the NFL, back in 1989, I talked to a Kansas City scout and he said, 'Here's what we do, we videotape the opposing team's signals and then we sync it up with the game film.' So I did it." Bragged, former Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan: "Our guy keeps a pair of binoculars on their signal-callers every game, with any luck, we have their defensive signals figured out by halftime. Sometimes, by the end of the first quarter."
NFL commissioner and former Jets public relations intern Rodger Goodell confirmed this himself in 2008, saying that the issue was not stealing signals, that is allowed "and it is done quite widely." The issue is where and how you record them. If you chose to videotape them, then (after 2006) you have to do that from a league approved location. If you hire lip readers, they can do it from your coaches lap, if you want.
After 2006, examples of allowed videotaping locations are: the luxury boxes, media booths and other enclosed spaces. Expressly prohibited locations are the sidelines, the field, locker rooms, the coaches booth or any other place accessible to team coaches and staff. The point of the rule is to not allow the footage to be useful in the current game.
Prior to the September 6, 2006 memo and, 2007 follow up, from NFL head of football operations Ray Anderson, there was no league restriction on filming location, which is the reason the memo was sent.
Many NFL head coaches have downplayed the significance of the practice, saying that attempting to decipher opponent's signals was a long standing practice and entirely common throughout the league.
VICTIM: The entire league
PUNISHED? No
PUNISHMENT: NFL commissioner and former Jets public relations intern Rodger Goodell suggested that the responsibility was on teams to conceal their messages, not on the ones trying to steal them. During his news conference before the 2007 Super Bowl he said that any coach who did not expect signals to be stolen was "stupid."
Prior to 2006, every NFL team is assumed to have done it, but none of them broke a rule. You can't punish something that is not prohibited. Filming from the sidelines was not prohibited until 2006 and filming your opponent's signals from approved locations has never been prohibited, even today.
SHARE: http://YourTeamCheats.com/BAL#Spygate-1960
CHEATPOINTS EARNED:+ 0.0
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SEVERITY:
SUMMARY: Sign an opponent's recently-cut player to your practice squad to get intel on their plays, signals and tactics. This is not illegal and is a leaguewide practice.
Said one player, who chose to remain anonymous as he was still in the league as of 2015, "If teams have an opening at a certain position, they might not be looking for perhaps the best player to fill it on their practice squad. Instead, they might go for someone who has access to the opposing team’s playbook."
“Let’s say we’re playing the Jaguars in seven days and you want to know more about their playbook. From time to time teams will sign people off of practice squads. You don’t have to put them on active roster so if there’s a need for more depth at linebacker and you’re playing Jacksonville, there would be more of a chance to sign a linebacker off the team you’re about to play’s practice squad and hoping that the person you’re about to sign will divulge information about the playbook.”
VICTIM: The entire league
PUNISHED? No
PUNISHMENT: Not illegal.
SHARE: http://YourTeamCheats.com/BAL#Scrapsgate-1960
CHEATPOINTS EARNED:+ 0.0
LMAO!! Give it a rest Zit with that propaganda your teams cheats site, developed in New England after deflategate. Post something from North Korea, it would be more credible than that crap. I mean they "rank" cheating using PEDs. Given that premise, the Cheats should be number one AGAIN considering the "Super Bowl" MVP was suspended in the same season he won the MVP the award, for using PEDs. I mean "COME ON MAN" Deion Sanders in 2005, he couldn't cover his shadow. LMAO!!
GEDinSports,
As much as your little panties get in a wad over this, we both know that Brady already is considered BY FAR to be the greatest QB of all time, it's not even up for speculation. It's only
you ignorant crying haters that even bring it up anymore. It makes me laugh every time you post your lame ass shit.
You are worse than Pavlov's dog for crying out loud.
How can anyone pretending to be knowledgeable about this stuff actually still think the Patriots spied on the Rams? You have to be living under a rock. Not one shred of evidence produced 18 years later. That's as fucking stupid as thinking Trump is actually a RUSSIAN AGENT
No response!?!?! Really!?!?!? I've already stated numerous times that their whole ranking system is 100% subjective!! Like I've stated in this thread post #85. I'll spell it out for you again. If that joke of a site that originated in New England after deflategate is ranking teams based on PEDS use, then the Cheats should rank first again considering their Super Bowl MVP was suspended the same season for PEDS!!! You have not responded to this!! And like I stated in this thread, enough with the "hater" argument! Ever stop and wonder why so many hate the Patriots. It starts with the letter C, and no it's not champions. Christ you don't have none of this hater excuse surrounding G-States run or FC Barcelona. Those REAL dynasties won without Cheating. And you're the joke, all you do is post that stupid picture when your getting your ass handed to you by facts!! Keep posting the picture you JOKE and I'll keep posting facts!
You're the joke. Idiots like you hate the Patriots because they are WINNERS, and you can't stand that.
You're bullshit whining about cheating is SUBJECTIVE and SELECTIVE.
6 rings baby, and the best QB of all time. Champions bitch.
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Keep posting pics you CLOWN! And I'll keep posting facts!! Like I said before, if that propaganda site is rating PED cheats, how come the team that was AWARDED the Super Bowl, their MVP, who was suspended for PEDs is not rated number 1? How come no "hater" threads for GS or FC Barcelona dynasties? Post a pic of BOZO you clown!
Here CLOWN you want some more numbers facts, let's look at back at the Patriots fumbles after Bilicheat foreword The Physics of Football and after Brady and others lobbied the NFL for each team to supply their own balls for their offense. Their fumble rate drastically improved. You Patriots fans believe this is when Belicheat discovered the importance of fumbles and when Brady hit puberty and had a massive growth in the size of his hands.
2007 1 in the NFL in fewest fumbles
2008 4
2009 4
2010 1
2011 4
2012 5
2013 24 (ball boy was sick for a few days lol)
2014 2
So they finished in the top 5 every season save one. Now you delusional Cheat fans are like, yeah man that shows Belicheat is the best coach because he "coaches" his team to hold on to the ball. It only took him 10 plus years of coaching to figure out the importance of fumbles, while all the other NFL coaches haven't figured out the importance of fumbles. This is your logic. Facts show that after Bilicheat foreword the book, and after Brady lobbied the NFL to allow offenses to supply their own balls did their fumble rate go down to historical lows. Now if your "logic" is correct that Belicheat is the only coach that understands the importance of fumbles how come on the defense side of the ball, the Patriots suck at FORCING FUMBLES!?!?!
Lets look at the numbers
2007 16 ranked in forcing fumbles
2008 24
2009 7
2010 25
2011 11
2012 1
2013 19
2014 25
Only once during deflategate did the Cheats rank in the top 5 in forcing fumbles. What happened!?!?! Did Belicheat forget to coach the defense on the importance of forcing fumbles? If he could coach the offense to hold onto the ball surely he can coach the defense to force fumbles! GAME SET MATCH you clown!!!!!! Now get back to filming the other team and posting your pics you CLOWN!!!
2007 1 in the NFL in fewest fumbles
2008 4
2009 4
2010 1
2011 4
2012 5
2013 24 (ball boy was sick for a few days lol)
2014 2
So they finished in the top 5 every season save one. Now you delusional Cheat fans are like, yeah man that shows Belicheat is the best coach because he "coaches" his team to hold on to the ball. It only took him 10 plus years of coaching to figure out the importance of fumbles, while all the other NFL coaches haven't figured out the importance of fumbles. This is your logic. Facts show that after Bilicheat foreword the book, and after Brady lobbied the NFL to allow offenses to supply their own balls did their fumble rate go down to historical lows. Now if your "logic" is correct that Belicheat is the only coach that understands the importance of fumbles how come on the defense side of the ball, the Patriots suck at FORCING FUMBLES!?!?!
Lets look at the numbers
2007 16 ranked in forcing fumbles
2008 24
2009 7
2010 25
2011 11
2012 1
2013 19
2014 25
Only once during deflategate did the Cheats rank in the top 5 in forcing fumbles. What happened!?!?! Did Belicheat forget to coach the defense on the importance of forcing fumbles? If he could coach the offense to hold onto the ball surely he can coach the defense to force fumbles! GAME SET MATCH you clown!!!!!! Now get back to filming the other team and posting your pics you CLOWN!!!
Not that I didn't answer this already yesterday in Post 67....why you had to ask again suggests you don't read peoples post.
Not one person is claiming he was doing nothing wrong, not one person. Pats admitted this guy taped the sideline, he admitted taping the sideline.
But you're still going to push the narrative that he believed he wasn't doing anything wrong when he has admitted he was doing something wrong.
That is why he offered to delete the footage, the minute he realized his job was in jeopardy.
It's like a broken record with you. You just make shit up when its not there lol.
You do that in a ton of threads and thats why your despised around here. The constant spinning of what people say. You're known for that.
The minute he realized his job was in jeopardy? Ok???? Why do you think his job was in jeopardy?
You aren’t very bright are you? Listen, you are in a clouded daze right now. You aren’t seeing straight. Blinded by your love for your precious Patriots.
All that’s going to happen here is I make more sense than you and verbally shut you up and you just run away. That’s all that will happen here. All your friends do it.
Lmao but yes...you make no sense. For him to just be there was apart of his job. The problem is WHAT he is focusing on. What he is choosing to film for over 8 minutes. It’s the intent. It’s their history. It’s Boston’s fans/employees
You are skipping a lot of steps here.
What am I spinning? He was there to film a short show for Patriots.com, right? To THAT point in time, he wasn’t doing anything illegal or anything the rules.
It is WHEN you have different agendas then what you are SUPPOSE to be there for is when there starts to be an issue.
He ONLY admits wrong and offers to delete it WHEN it is brought to knowledge that he isn’t doing what he was suppose to be there doing.
Maybe these guys use this “Do your Job” show as the way they steal footage.
And the fact that he is even talking about brining back the footage just tells me he knows all about being able to do that in case of an emergency.
You really think these guys are innocent because they admitted that they were doing something wrong? You don’t make any sense you’re just in love with your precious patriots you know this I know this everyone knows this. Time to shut the fuck up.
