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For the pussies here that don't think we are at war with these fuks what was 911, Beirut, USS Cole, etc.?

Whether you want to admit it or not they have declared war on us.

"Violence only causes more Violence"? Bullshit, what happened in WW2?

You are with us or against us. I am getting tired of the treasonous anti-american, socialist, unemployed losers bashing this country.
 
No were are not.Just certain elements.And believe me their beliefs have nothing to do with Islam.
 

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We are there to bring them freedom.
Thats why its called operation Iraqi Freedom.

Freedom is what we bring.
Long live freedom.

Freedom freedom freedom.

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treasonous anti-american, socialist, unemployed losers



Hey Big Deal,

Do you have anything to say about that ?
 
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I am getting tired of the treasonous anti-american, socialist, unemployed losers bashing this country.

Cry me a river!
 

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My only reponse would be go buy yourself an island and start your own Populist State

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If we WERE at war with Islam, we would be in BIG trouble... think about the potential for suicide taxis in NY alone!!

Thank God we are only at war with an extreme fringe of the right wing islamic movement.
 
>believe me their beliefs have nothing to do with Islam.

The founder of Islam was a mass murderer and advocate of genocide. That is a fact! No one in honesty can say otherwise.

So, when Muslims murder and commit genocide they are emulating the founder of their "religion."
 
FF,sorry dude,I have read the Koran,what it says is very close to the message of the bible.Millions have been murdered in the name of Christianity.Does not make all chrisitians are evil.I repeat a good Hindu ,Jew Muslim,Christian,Buddist,are all good people.
 
PS,I am not a fan of organized religion.As in politics I prefer to make up my own mind as to what I believe in.
 
JudgeW, MY FRIEND (i mean that) you are just deflecting from what I stated. Can you say what I wrote is incorrect?
 
FF,I can't dispute or confirm it.I only can read what the doctrine of the religion is spelled out in its theoretical guide "the Koran".No once again the problem here is interpretation.People can twist whatever words they want to fit theior purpose.Done with the bible constantly.By the founder of Islam do you mean Mohaamed?
 
Yes. Mohammed the son Amina and Abdullah

btw-- IMHO one needs to read/study the Hadith to understand Mohammed/Islam
 
Concerning his moral character and sincerity contradictory opinions have been expressed by scholars in the last three centuries. Many of these opinions are biased either by an extreme hatred of Islam and its founder or by an exaggerated admiration, coupled with a hatred of Christianity. Luther looked upon him as "a devil and first-born child of Satan". Maracci held that Mohammed and Mohammedanism were not very dissimilar to Luther and Protestantism. Spanheim and D'Herbelot characterize him as a "wicked impostor", and a "dastardly liar", while Prideaux stamps him as a wilful deceiver. Such indiscriminate abuse is unsupported by facts. Modern scholars, such as Sprenger, Noldeke, Weil, Muir, Koelle, Grimme, Margoliouth, give us a more correct and unbiased estimate of Mohammed's life and character, and substantially agree as to his motives, prophetic call, personal qualifications, and sincerity. The various estimates of several recent critics have been ably collected and summarized by Zwemer, in his "Islam, a Challenge to Faith" (New York, 1907). According to Sir William Muir, Marcus Dods, and some others, Mohammed was at first sincere, but later, carried away by success, he practised deception wherever it would gain his end. Koelle "finds the key to the first period of Mohammed's life in Khadija, his first wife", after whose death he became a prey to his evil passions. Sprenger attributes the alleged revelations to epileptic fits, or to "a paroxysm of cataleptic insanity". Zwemer himself goes on to criticize the life of Mohammed by the standards, first, of the Old and New Testaments, both of which Mohammed acknowledged as Divine revelation; second, by the pagan morality of his Arabian compatriots; lastly, by the new law of which he pretended to be the "divinely appointed medium and custodian". According to this author, the prophet was false even to the ethical traditions of the idolatrous brigands among whom he lived, and grossly violated the easy sexual morality of his own system. After this, it is hardly necessary to say that, in Zwemer's opinion, Mohammed fell very far short of the most elementary requirements of Scriptural morality. Quoting Johnstone, Zwemer concludes by remarking that the judgment of these modern scholars, however harsh, rests on evidence which "comes all from the lips and the pens of his own devoted adherents. . .And the followers of the prophet can scarcely complain if, even on such evidence, the verdict of history goes against him". From the Catholic Encyclopedia.
 
So who knows.He did conquer Arabia in the name of his belief,which I compare to the Crusades and would certainly condemn.
 
I *try* to not engage theological biased "history" or historians - I know it's hard. The secular history of Mohammed is quite clear.
 
Whenever I bring this up many will introduce Christianity or what christians have done in the past. I'm not a christian apologist but let's compare apples to apples.

HISTORICALLY:

Compare the two *founders* of each...
 
LOL.I got stay out vof this forum,am breaking two of my standard rules,talking politics and religion.In any case,always respect your opinions.
 

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