Was Ted Bundy an elite serial killer?

[Enfuego]

If anyone here uses the SCRIBD reading app ($8.99 a month w unlimited downloads within the app) POPULAR CRIME is one of best non-fiction reads I've enjoyed during this past year

I read a lot of crime-related longform articles on longform.org.

 

[TheComputerGroup]

Did the btk killer ever say why he stopped?

He had a family & a daughter to take care of.....& in1991, he became a dogcatcher and compliance officer in Park City, which gave him the control he liked over people.....One neighbor complained he euthanized her dog for no reason. Guy didn't need to go out killing, he was fulfilled by his job which gave him that power & his family took up a lot of his time.

Also, before he was arrested in 2005, he was stalking & planning to kill a waitress he would frequent at a diner, he stated she was his next victim...he never got the chance tho.

 

[JustinCruise]

He had a family & a daughter to take care of.....& in1991, he became a dogcatcher and compliance officer in Park City, which gave him the control he liked over people.....One neighbor complained he euthanized her dog for no reason. Guy didn't need to go out killing, he was fulfilled by his job & his family took up a lot of his time.

Also, before he was arrested in 2005, he was stalking & planning to kill a waitress he would frequent at a diner, he stated she was his next victim...he never got the chance tho.

Insane he could kill all those people then just go about his life for years like nothing happened

 

[SgtLanquel]

Another factor was that without the knowledge we have now regarding DNA and how it works, it was probably pretty hard to explain and comprehend during that particular trial.

I think that's what I said first...heh

 

[SgtLanquel]

I read a lot of crime-related longform articles on longform.org.

I read a really good one on there from St Petersburg Times about a guy who kidnapped a mother and daughter by taking them out on the Gulf in his boat, killing them and dumping them at sea. One (or maybe both) bodies came to shore a few days later. It took combined efforts of SPPD, Pinellas County Sheriff almost three years to figure it out. Late 90s....so almost all old school detective work

I will dig back a bit and send you the link via text msg

 

[Avocado33]

Bundy benefitted from:

1) inexplicably bad security
2) HORRIBLE technology

He was always a step ahead of the authorities because of this. What's most inexplicable is how reluctant states were to talk to one another back then. Just horrible.

 

[SgtLanquel]

NM.....got it

Was actually a 1989 case......Incredible longform coverage (published in St Petersburg Times over several weeks) by Thomas French titled Angels & Demons....Available at longform website

 

[TheComputerGroup]

I read a really good one on there from St Petersburg Times about a guy who kidnapped a mother and daughter by taking them out on the Gulf in his boat, killing them and dumping them at sea. One (or maybe both) bodies came to shore a few days later. It took combined efforts of SPPD, Pinellas County Sheriff almost three years to figure it out. Late 90s....so almost all old school detective work

I will dig back a bit and send you the link via text msg

Are you talking about the serial rapist/killer that gave directions to a mother & her two daughters that were vacationing in Florida? He wrote down directions & those instructions of his hand writing is what got him.arrested.......they posted the exact writing of his directions on billboards & one old lady that had work done by this killer (he was a carpenter/electrician or whatever).....she recognized his writing & called the police. This guy was a nut......he raped & killed all 3 women, mom & both daughters, the cops said he had raped the daughters in front of their mother, then tied them.all up, put cinder blocks around all their heads & dropped them.in the ocean alive.

He had also taken a young woman out for a boat ride on his boat after those murders, he raped her, but let her live, she swam back to shore & gave the cops a description.

 

[TheComputerGroup]

Bundy benefitted from:

1) inexplicably bad security
2) HORRIBLE technology

He was always a step ahead of the authorities because of this. What's most inexplicable is how reluctant states were to talk to one another back then. Just horrible.

That's the reason why the Golden St Killer got away with over 45 rapes & 12 murders, & like over 200 burglaries, police did not talk to each other back then from city to city, county to county.

 

[festeringZit]

Ruefully fun fact.....Well over 50% of "CSI"-style lab gimmicks and "personal information" computer database info shown to be used by television cops is utterly fictional.

Most rarely a true inculpatory bit of evidence in all murder cases - at least with regard to how it's purported to be a real "deal closer" in popular fiction and TV - is fingerprints

Nice use of inculpatory

 

[Enfuego]

I read a really good one on there from St Petersburg Times about a guy who kidnapped a mother and daughter by taking them out on the Gulf in his boat, killing them and dumping them at sea. One (or maybe both) bodies came to shore a few days later. It took combined efforts of SPPD, Pinellas County Sheriff almost three years to figure it out. Late 90s....so almost all old school detective work

I will dig back a bit and send you the link via text msg

I read it awhile back. It was fascinating how they caught him.

 

[Enfuego]

Bundy benefitted from:

1) inexplicably bad security
2) HORRIBLE technology

He was always a step ahead of the authorities because of this. What's most inexplicable is how reluctant states were to talk to one another back then. Just horrible.

Sam - It's not that they were reluctant to talk, the term "serial killer" and techniques we use now to catch serial killers didn't exist. They were operating independently as if they were the only ones with a killer on the loose.

 

[SgtLanquel]

Are you talking about the serial rapist/killer that gave directions to a mother & her two daughters that were vacationing in Florida? He wrote down directions & those instructions of his hand writing is what got him.arrested.......they posted the exact writing of his directions on billboards & one old lady that had work done by this killer (he was a carpenter/electrician or whatever).....she recognized his writing & called the police. This guy was a nut......he raped & killed all 3 women, mom & both daughters, the cops said he had raped the daughters in front of their mother, then tied them.all up, put cinder blocks around all their heads & dropped them.in the ocean alive.

He had also taken a young woman out for a boat ride on his boat after those murders, he raped her, but let her live, she swam back to shore & gave the cops a description.

Yeah, that guy....I forgot it was two daughters.

His former neighbor had a handwritten receipt for some handyman work he did before moving away from her hood.

She reported it to a sheriff deputy she knew but the report got buried for months in the pre-computer age

 

[SgtLanquel]

Nice use of inculpatory

Been seeing that word a lot during past 24 months in discussions of activities connected to trumpco and his many minions

 

[Enfuego]

Yeah, that guy....I forgot it was two daughters.

His former neighbor had a handwritten receipt for some handyman work he did before moving away from her hood.

She reported it to a sheriff deputy she knew but the report got buried for months in the pre-computer age

You watch Mind Hunters on Netflix?

 

[SgtLanquel]

You watch Mind Hunters on Netflix?

Watched the first one and was intrigued but SheBar was not down....will have to roll the rest on my own

 

[slapshot]

yea

 

[seldomseen]

Mindhunters kinda sucked. Not dark enough and the lead is blatantly homosexual. Don't care if he is or not but it takes away from the character.

 

[TheComputerGroup]

BTK: A Killer Among Us which premieres Sunday, February 17 at 10 p.m. on Investigation Discovery channel.