In the history of gambling/betting no one has ever beaten the house using a chase system. People like Vegas Dave and Steve Stevens go on tv and get staged media attention and fake social media promos to get exposure and noobs fall for it when they see his rental cars and fake money stacks on social media. This guy continues to tout that his system series is 36-0 now but the series already lost couple of times and bust many bankrolls. Overall the plays are around 40%.
Not enough illegal guns in Oakland to put to my head and force me to play a chase, LOL. I'm fairly decent at math, had a Nobel Laureate teach me freshman year at Vandy, so be pretty tough to sucker me into that, LOL. Man, you heard from BossMan??? Son of a bitch won't answer my phone calls or email me back. WTF???
~T~
Well, if I was working for him I wouldn't be giving his picks away for free Einstein... I simply paid for his system plays which are 36-1 and share it on here like others do with their subscriptions.. Yes, He lost the Seattle series last week for the first loss of the year (he addressed it, didn't hide it like some say, and then moved on) and then the next day hit 2 system plays yesterday, both on game 1.
If you don't want picks from him, perfectly fine with me, go ahead and look for the "trusted" tout that makes his predictions from his moms basement vs. from a vacation home in Cabo. But I'm certainly not here to defend HIM personally as I really don't care about anything other than if the game wins or loses at end of day. He can be a scumbag, jerk-off, POS, or whatever anyone wants to call him, doesn't matter as long as my bankroll continues to grow.
Man, I have no clue who this guy is, really. Just thought you and the other guy might be shilling for this Vegas Dave. And yep, you got one thing right in the post, I AM an Einstein, retired at the ripe old age of 46 after making millions in oil/gas. But who's counting. No hard feelings, just questioning as the integrity of this forum is paramount to what it was meant for and when I see posts that I think might be in odds with that goal, I question. GLTU with the chase.
~T~
No hard feeling, maybe just some confusion on my part...My understanding was we were on here to share gambling info/picks etc. I didn't come across a specific thread for tout picks on the baseball forum. So I just started my own thread so I didn't step on someones toes and put it in the wrong place. Is there a specific thread that it was suppose to be posted??
No VD system plays this week..2-0 last week following first season system loss. now 36-1 member email for Monday 8/21:
Just passing on info, not interested in hearing YOUR opinion of him... there are folks asking me for the picks.
Ok great week for us. After having our first system loss last weekend we came back and won all our system plays on game 1. The recored is now 36-1 for the main system package and now 90-1 on the upgraded unlimited. This week was a perfect example of patience and money management. So many of you emailed me every day for plays like a crack addict needing action. As the welcome email states we play to win not for action. I didnt give out a play until friday which was only a half a unit play where texas lost on a late inning inside the park home run, tough luck! I then took saturday off and sent out a 2.5 unit play on the rays sunday which cashed. Im sorry I will not just throw out plays for the hell of it, again we play to win not for action. Now this week for the basic system package there are no plays. There is nothing I really like. My goal is to go 39-1 or 40-1. I refuse to lose another system play. If you need action the best system play I can give you is Arizona but if you choose to play this play do it to only to net a quarter unit. Win or lose I will not count this towards my record.. Follow the rules of the welcome email on how to play the system plays if you decide to play Arizona. I suggest waiting till next monday and being smart. If you choose to play Arizona which starts today ( monday) then do it to net a quarter unit only not a full unit. If you are on the upgraded unlimited system package you will have 2-3 plays. That email will come in another hour.
Also I have been flooded with emails about the data base elite package. That was part of the Rays pick I gave out sunday for 2.5 units. I have two main packages the bundle which 90% of you are on and the the data base elite package which is for people that really want to treat this like a business. The data base elite is a platform where we play 90% underdogs and its not part of the bundle package. This package ranges from 25k and up. Its for the people that can afford to wager 2-3k a game minimum. This package is designed for people that want to treat this opportunity like a serious business and not a hobby. It works extremely well in football especially the NFL. Last years there were weeks where a 3k parlay paid well over 200,000 . See with this platform its majority all underdogs. Do your own research go back the past 10 years in the NFL and you will see 4 weeks in every season in which the books crush the public. You know the weeks where you have the patriots -7 and the packers -7 at home teased down to a pickem to cash the last leg of a parlay and they lose outright. There are 4 weeks every season where pretty much every dog not only covers but wins outright. All the top teams lose outright at home, happens like clockwork every season. If you lost 12 weeks out of the 16 week season and only hit on the 4 weeks where the underdogs cash you can easily make over 6 figures of 2-3k per play . This is 100% true because the payouts are so huge on those underdog win. For example if the Jets, Bucs and Niners hit at +350, +500 and +650 a 3k parlay would pay you $604,000!!!!. Yes do the math yourself. Hell if you lost 15 weeks at 5k a week you would be down 75k and just hitting one week like this your up 500k!. But thats what the data base elite package does, its a cash cow for the NFL ( the never figure league) where dogs win outright many times during the season. Again thats how I came up with the Tampa Bay Ray ( even though it was a favorite which is very rare for this platform) win for you on sunday. We took the Rays who's pitcher won just one time in his last 17 games and he ends up pitching his best game ever going 7 innings and giving up 2 runs. That the crazy intel this platform provides. No one would of took the Rays on sunday!!! Again the data base elite works best for football ( you get both college and NFL) but work extremely well for the NFL. I just wanted to address the data base elite package in this mass email since so many people asked about it after the Tampa Bay Rays won yesterday off a huge 2.5 unit play. Again this platform is for people that want to treat sportsbetting like a real business like I did. Trust me theres a lot of money to be made in this business. This business pays more in returns than 401ks and IRAs. Some people put 5k in an IRA and its worth 6k a year later. I have people that started with a 5k bank roll and are up to 40-50k just off the basic bundle packages.
Because I am not giving out any main system plays this week because I will not risk losing a game. I will make it a point to send you some daily plays 2-3x this week instead. Expect those Wed or Thurs. I like to watch games early on in the week. I know some of you are going to cry since there are no system plays this week but trust me I'm doing this for your best interest. Have patience this is a marathon not a sprint.
Also for the people that took advantage of the early bird discounted football package the welcome email will come out by aug 28th. I have been working on football for the past 2 months and I truly believe this will be our best football season yet. I already have my teams to make it to the SB pretty much ready. I also have 4 spots open on the college and NFL mentorship program as well. The breakdown is 62.50 a week for the 16 week class.. This is for people that want to learn the handicapping side of this industry from myself.
Everyone have a great week and next Monday I assure you we will have system plays.
Just passing on info, not interested in hearing YOUR opinion of him... there are folks asking me for the picks.
Ok great week for us. After having our first system loss last weekend we came back and won all our system plays on game 1. The recored is now 36-1 for the main system package and now 90-1 on the upgraded unlimited. This week was a perfect example of patience and money management. So many of you emailed me every day for plays like a crack addict needing action. As the welcome email states we play to win not for action. I didnt give out a play until friday which was only a half a unit play where texas lost on a late inning inside the park home run, tough luck! I then took saturday off and sent out a 2.5 unit play on the rays sunday which cashed. Im sorry I will not just throw out plays for the hell of it, again we play to win not for action. Now this week for the basic system package there are no plays. There is nothing I really like. My goal is to go 39-1 or 40-1. I refuse to lose another system play. If you need action the best system play I can give you is Arizona but if you choose to play this play do it to only to net a quarter unit. Win or lose I will not count this towards my record.. Follow the rules of the welcome email on how to play the system plays if you decide to play Arizona. I suggest waiting till next monday and being smart. If you choose to play Arizona which starts today ( monday) then do it to net a quarter unit only not a full unit. If you are on the upgraded unlimited system package you will have 2-3 plays. That email will come in another hour.
Also I have been flooded with emails about the data base elite package. That was part of the Rays pick I gave out sunday for 2.5 units. I have two main packages the bundle which 90% of you are on and the the data base elite package which is for people that really want to treat this like a business. The data base elite is a platform where we play 90% underdogs and its not part of the bundle package. This package ranges from 25k and up. Its for the people that can afford to wager 2-3k a game minimum. This package is designed for people that want to treat this opportunity like a serious business and not a hobby. It works extremely well in football especially the NFL. Last years there were weeks where a 3k parlay paid well over 200,000 . See with this platform its majority all underdogs. Do your own research go back the past 10 years in the NFL and you will see 4 weeks in every season in which the books crush the public. You know the weeks where you have the patriots -7 and the packers -7 at home teased down to a pickem to cash the last leg of a parlay and they lose outright. There are 4 weeks every season where pretty much every dog not only covers but wins outright. All the top teams lose outright at home, happens like clockwork every season. If you lost 12 weeks out of the 16 week season and only hit on the 4 weeks where the underdogs cash you can easily make over 6 figures of 2-3k per play . This is 100% true because the payouts are so huge on those underdog win. For example if the Jets, Bucs and Niners hit at +350, +500 and +650 a 3k parlay would pay you $604,000!!!!. Yes do the math yourself. Hell if you lost 15 weeks at 5k a week you would be down 75k and just hitting one week like this your up 500k!. But thats what the data base elite package does, its a cash cow for the NFL ( the never figure league) where dogs win outright many times during the season. Again thats how I came up with the Tampa Bay Ray ( even though it was a favorite which is very rare for this platform) win for you on sunday. We took the Rays who's pitcher won just one time in his last 17 games and he ends up pitching his best game ever going 7 innings and giving up 2 runs. That the crazy intel this platform provides. No one would of took the Rays on sunday!!! Again the data base elite works best for football ( you get both college and NFL) but work extremely well for the NFL. I just wanted to address the data base elite package in this mass email since so many people asked about it after the Tampa Bay Rays won yesterday off a huge 2.5 unit play. Again this platform is for people that want to treat sportsbetting like a real business like I did. Trust me theres a lot of money to be made in this business. This business pays more in returns than 401ks and IRAs. Some people put 5k in an IRA and its worth 6k a year later. I have people that started with a 5k bank roll and are up to 40-50k just off the basic bundle packages.
Because I am not giving out any main system plays this week because I will not risk losing a game. I will make it a point to send you some daily plays 2-3x this week instead. Expect those Wed or Thurs. I like to watch games early on in the week. I know some of you are going to cry since there are no system plays this week but trust me I'm doing this for your best interest. Have patience this is a marathon not a sprint.
Also for the people that took advantage of the early bird discounted football package the welcome email will come out by aug 28th. I have been working on football for the past 2 months and I truly believe this will be our best football season yet. I already have my teams to make it to the SB pretty much ready. I also have 4 spots open on the college and NFL mentorship program as well. The breakdown is 62.50 a week for the 16 week class.. This is for people that want to learn the handicapping side of this industry from myself.
Everyone have a great week and next Monday I assure you we will have system plays.
So his NFL strategy is to parlay 2 or 3 big ml dogs every week? Sounds like same kind of bet every one holding out a $5 bill at book is making. His Math doesn't add up either. With minimum 4 big NFL ml dogs a week you will be betting essentially a round robin. A lot more than 3k in losses per week on those. If he is actually betting these picks it will be the cash people give to him.
Email for 9/3
Great end of the week for us, as we had patience. At first we didn't have have system plays I liked on Monday but then I was able to come up with some on thursday. The cubs won and the other 2 unlimited system plays cashed as well. I was stuck in a hurricane this past week and literally spent 72 hours straight studying baseball and football. As I stated many times the 2nd half of the season and the end of baseball is hard. Its so important to start at the beginning of the season and not just the end. This is a marathon not a sprint. We My goal is to go 39-1 on the regular system plays which we are currently 37-1 and to go 99-1 on my unlimited system plays which are 95-1.Tomorrow we will have the next system play email as they always come out on mondays. If we only have one don't complain my goal is to be super selective and make us money at the end of the day. I usually like to play weekends but yesterday I did not like anything enough to give out. I hope you can appreciate that and just be patient. Any handicapper that gives out plays 5-7x a week is just taking your money and giving you action. You cannot beat the books that way. You need to be very selective as we did this week and it showed by cashing all the plays.
Today NOTHING special, play very small. I do NOT love these plays
Rangers run line +1.5 runs
risk .25 units
Brewers ML
risk .25 units
Rockies ML
Risk .25 units
Round robin these 3 for small. Round robin 2s and 3s
rangers run line +1.5
Brewers ML
Rockies ML
risk .125 units only..Total thats it!! IF all 3 hit its a huge payout. But hard to do so risk .125 units only!!
Parlay
Miami money line
Boston money line
risk .5 units.
Again with the ATL win as a + money underdog and the 3 total system wins we are up a decent amount this week. Even if all these plays lose we will still be up for the week. If you want cut the risk amounts even lower if you like just in case they all lose that you will still be up money this week. Manage your bank roll appropriately. Remember a unit is only 5% of your bank roll. Don't press these plays! Structured todays plays so if worst case they all lose you are still up money for the week!!!
For those on my football package you know we didn't play yesterday for college football. I never play week one as its too hard to cap. As I thought I was 100% right so many things happened that the experts were off on with their predictions. Again this is why I have patience. We will start college next week. I won't just give out plays in week one like the other cappers. I truly care about making you all money. We play to win not for action, remember that!
Please note at 7pm pacific time I will have a split open for both the college and NFL packages. I promised a college student that if he sent me proof of payment by then I would allow him to split both the college and NFL packages with one of my current MLB players. He cannot afford the full price of the package. If you missed the football early bird discounted pricing the next best thing is the split price where you would partner up with this college student. You would get all the plays just off half off. Do NOT make the mistake to jump in football at the halfway mark to save money. You can't win by cutting corners you need to start in the first week and treat this like a business not get rich quick scheme. We are launching system plays for the first time in football. The great thing all the juice will only be -110 unlike MLB where it could be -200. I truly believe we will go undefeated in football for the systems plays.
If you have not jumped on football and would like to take advantage of this split email my other account, vegasdave1976@yahoo.com. I will know by sure at 7pm pac time if this is available.
Also I have had a handful of people email me about the finding someone to split the data base elite package. Thats my best package. To qualify you have to be able to bet 2-3k per game. This platform is so unreal that if you only won 2 weeks out of the 16 week football schedule you would still be up over 6 figures. Why? Because the platform is designed to play 90% underdogs. Its insane as it netted 800k and 1.2M the past 2 seasons on NFL alone betting units of 5k and 10k. I don't have any splits open for that as its my best overall package I have. Its for people that really want to treat this like a business and not a hobby. It crushes for the NFL as the NFL is where the books kill the betting public year in and year out. Theres one more week to get into this data base elite program but you have to meet the requirements. I have no splits open but if a handful of you are interested email me and I have no problem pairing you up to split costs. I can honestly tell you the data base elite program is the money maker in the NFL. Again email my other email address if you have more questions on this, vegasdave1976@yahoo.com. Again this platform is a real cash cow so if you are on the fence of deicing to look for a serious 2nd stream of income email me and I can explain more.
Be patient, manage your bank roll, and wait for tomorrows system plays email. So far so good as we are 37-1 on the regular system package and 95-1 on the upgraded unlimited system package.
Everyone have a great sundasy!
Dave Oancea
Great end of the week for us, as we had patience. At first we didn't have have system plays I liked on Monday but then I was able to come up with some on thursday. The cubs won and the other 2 unlimited system plays cashed as well. I was stuck in a hurricane this past week and literally spent 72 hours straight studying baseball and football. As I stated many times the 2nd half of the season and the end of baseball is hard. Its so important to start at the beginning of the season and not just the end. This is a marathon not a sprint. We My goal is to go 39-1 on the regular system plays which we are currently 37-1 and to go 99-1 on my unlimited system plays which are 95-1.Tomorrow we will have the next system play email as they always come out on mondays. If we only have one don't complain my goal is to be super selective and make us money at the end of the day. I usually like to play weekends but yesterday I did not like anything enough to give out. I hope you can appreciate that and just be patient. Any handicapper that gives out plays 5-7x a week is just taking your money and giving you action. You cannot beat the books that way. You need to be very selective as we did this week and it showed by cashing all the plays.
Today NOTHING special, play very small. I do NOT love these plays
Rangers run line +1.5 runs
risk .25 units
Brewers ML
risk .25 units
Rockies ML
Risk .25 units
Round robin these 3 for small. Round robin 2s and 3s
rangers run line +1.5
Brewers ML
Rockies ML
risk .125 units only..Total thats it!! IF all 3 hit its a huge payout. But hard to do so risk .125 units only!!
Parlay
Miami money line
Boston money line
risk .5 units.
Again with the ATL win as a + money underdog and the 3 total system wins we are up a decent amount this week. Even if all these plays lose we will still be up for the week. If you want cut the risk amounts even lower if you like just in case they all lose that you will still be up money this week. Manage your bank roll appropriately. Remember a unit is only 5% of your bank roll. Don't press these plays! Structured todays plays so if worst case they all lose you are still up money for the week!!!
For those on my football package you know we didn't play yesterday for college football. I never play week one as its too hard to cap. As I thought I was 100% right so many things happened that the experts were off on with their predictions. Again this is why I have patience. We will start college next week. I won't just give out plays in week one like the other cappers. I truly care about making you all money. We play to win not for action, remember that!
Please note at 7pm pacific time I will have a split open for both the college and NFL packages. I promised a college student that if he sent me proof of payment by then I would allow him to split both the college and NFL packages with one of my current MLB players. He cannot afford the full price of the package. If you missed the football early bird discounted pricing the next best thing is the split price where you would partner up with this college student. You would get all the plays just off half off. Do NOT make the mistake to jump in football at the halfway mark to save money. You can't win by cutting corners you need to start in the first week and treat this like a business not get rich quick scheme. We are launching system plays for the first time in football. The great thing all the juice will only be -110 unlike MLB where it could be -200. I truly believe we will go undefeated in football for the systems plays.
If you have not jumped on football and would like to take advantage of this split email my other account, vegasdave1976@yahoo.com. I will know by sure at 7pm pac time if this is available.
Also I have had a handful of people email me about the finding someone to split the data base elite package. Thats my best package. To qualify you have to be able to bet 2-3k per game. This platform is so unreal that if you only won 2 weeks out of the 16 week football schedule you would still be up over 6 figures. Why? Because the platform is designed to play 90% underdogs. Its insane as it netted 800k and 1.2M the past 2 seasons on NFL alone betting units of 5k and 10k. I don't have any splits open for that as its my best overall package I have. Its for people that really want to treat this like a business and not a hobby. It crushes for the NFL as the NFL is where the books kill the betting public year in and year out. Theres one more week to get into this data base elite program but you have to meet the requirements. I have no splits open but if a handful of you are interested email me and I have no problem pairing you up to split costs. I can honestly tell you the data base elite program is the money maker in the NFL. Again email my other email address if you have more questions on this, vegasdave1976@yahoo.com. Again this platform is a real cash cow so if you are on the fence of deicing to look for a serious 2nd stream of income email me and I can explain more.
Be patient, manage your bank roll, and wait for tomorrows system plays email. So far so good as we are 37-1 on the regular system package and 95-1 on the upgraded unlimited system package.
Everyone have a great sundasy!
Dave Oancea
