US warns Russia it would be a 'grave mistake' to send its military into Ukraine as its new leader says it wants to integrate with Europe

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You are a clueless troll. When an idiot is mocking Obama for how Russia is ignoring him, it's certainly releveant to show that Russia has been ignoring any empty threats by the US prior to Obama. But in your and your clueless leader Wrong Way's world, they were scared of us until Obama. Laughable.

Acebb is correct. It's pathetic. We are 5+ years into Obama's presidency. Can't you let his record stand on its own without bringing up Bush at every turn? If the best you can say about Obama, 5 years in, is that he isn't Bush, you really add nothing to the debate. It's March 1, 2014 not January 2009. Bush is gone. Grow up and move on.
 

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I'm not a "Bin Laden was killed Denier", I'm a Bin Laden was killed by the Kenyan denier.

As far as I knew, he had been dead for years.

And yes, you can quote me on that.
Post verifiable proof "Obama killed bin Laden" or STFU.

It's all fiction...like everything with this fraud.

Sure. Seal Team 6 was in on the deception also. You are one sick, insane Canadian Ghost, Casper. No "proof" will be satisfactory to a loon who isn't satisfied with the 100% Proof of Obama's birth in Hawaii. :pointer:
 

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Acebb is correct. It's pathetic. We are 5+ years into Obama's presidency. Can't you let his record stand on its own without bringing up Bush at every turn? If the best you can say about Obama, 5 years in, is that he isn't Bush, you really add nothing to the debate. It's March 1, 2014 not January 2009. Bush is gone. Grow up and move on.

I'll repeat what I said to the liar, and it certainly relevant to the current situation, as it's almost identical. An American President warning Russia not to take military action, and Russia ignoring the US President. Only the President's name is changed. When an idiot is mocking Obama for how Russia is ignoring him, it's certainly relevant to show that Russia has been ignoring empty threats by the US prior to Obama. If you can't see that Mantis, not much else one can do. :think2:
 

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17:41: US Senator John McCain
has released a strongly-worded statement: "Every moment that the United States and our allies fail to respond sends the signal to President Putin that he can be even more ambitious and aggressive in his military intervention in Ukraine. There is a range of serious options at our disposal at this time without the use of military force. I call on President Obama to rally our European and NATO allies to make clear what costs Russia will face for its aggression and to impose those consequences without further delay."
 
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I'll repeat what I said to the liar, and it certainly relevant to the current situation, as it's almost identical. An American President warning Russia not to take military action, and Russia ignoring the US President. Only the President's name is changed. When an idiot is mocking Obama for how Russia is ignoring him, it's certainly relevant to show that Russia has been ignoring empty threats by the US prior to Obama. If you can't see that Mantis, not much else one can do. :think2:

Actually, it's irrelevant. The past president's failures should not be used to justify the current president's failures. Real life doesn't work like that. The president shouldn't be graded on a curve.
 

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Micheal Savage put it this way.........He said what if Texas seceded the Union & Russia told us to stay out of Texas & not try to retake Texas?.....He's right...Obamas a frigging joke & Putin will do whatever he wants...

If Ukrainian army confronts Russians and makes one careless shot, Russian tanks will be rolling all the way to Lviv. Probably one-week campaign. I predict NATO will soil its pants and will resort to verbal condemnations.
 

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Actually, it's irrelevant. The past president's failures should not be used to justify the current president's failures. Real life doesn't work like that. The president shouldn't be graded on a curve.

He's not. I, for one, am glad that the threats of Both Presidents are, and were empty. Hopefully the next President won't waste their breath even trying to make the silly appearance that we're the world's Policemen. If Russia wants that Thankless Job, good luck to them. Ukraine is none of our business.
 

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Sure. Seal Team 6 was in on the deception also. You are one sick, insane Canadian Ghost, Casper. No "proof" will be satisfactory to a loon who isn't satisfied with the 100% Proof of Obama's birth in Hawaii. :pointer:

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Bin Laden Not killed by US, Claims Former CIA Agent

By Press TV
May 19, 2012 "Press TV" - -In an interview with Russia’s Channel One, Berkan Yashar, who is also a Turkish politician, said the US has not killed the al-Qaeda leader.

“In September of 1992, I was in Chechnya, that’s when I first met the man whose name was Bin Laden. This meeting took place in a two-story house in the city of Grozny; on the top floor was a family of Gamsakhurdia, the Georgian president, who then was kicked out of his country. We met on the bottom floor; Osama lived in the same building,” Yashar said.

According to the former CIA agent, he personally knew Bin Laden’s three Chechen bodyguards, who had protected him until his death and witnessed his death on June 26, 2006.

“Even if the entire world believed, I could not possibly believe it,” Yashar said. “I personally know the Chechens who protected him, they are Sami, Mahmood, and Ayub, and they were with him until the very end.”

“Only three Chechens buried him, according to his will” in the mountains on the Pakistan-Afghan border, he said.

Yashar added that the CIA abducted one of the bodyguards, Sami, before the announced killing of Bin Laden last year.

He says the bodyguard disclosed to the US the exact place of burial in the mountains.

“There was no assault. I know the American operations from the inside: they find the grave, dig out bin Laden and tell everyone about this. They need to show how technologically the security services worked, how each step was controlled, and then present it as a great victory to show that taxpayers are not paying taxes for nothing,” he said.

Washington announced on May 2, 2011 that Bin Laden was killed by US forces in his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

The lack of transparency over bin Laden's death has cast further doubt over the announcement.
 
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He's not. I, for one, am glad that the threats of Both Presidents are, and were empty. Hopefully the next President won't waste their breath even trying to make the silly appearance that we're the world's Policemen. If Russia wants that Thankless Job, good luck to them. Ukraine is none of our business.

As of right now, I don't disagree but as usual you are oversimplifying this.
 

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Fact or Fiction?
Bin Laden Not killed by US, Claims Former CIA Agent

By Press TV
May 19, 2012 "Press TV" - -In an interview with Russia’s Channel One, Berkan Yashar, who is also a Turkish politician, said the US has not killed the al-Qaeda leader.

“In September of 1992, I was in Chechnya, that’s when I first met the man whose name was Bin Laden. This meeting took place in a two-story house in the city of Grozny; on the top floor was a family of Gamsakhurdia, the Georgian president, who then was kicked out of his country. We met on the bottom floor; Osama lived in the same building,” Yashar said.

According to the former CIA agent, he personally knew Bin Laden’s three Chechen bodyguards, who had protected him until his death and witnessed his death on June 26, 2006.

“Even if the entire world believed, I could not possibly believe it,” Yashar said. “I personally know the Chechens who protected him, they are Sami, Mahmood, and Ayub, and they were with him until the very end.”

“Only three Chechens buried him, according to his will” in the mountains on the Pakistan-Afghan border, he said.

Yashar added that the CIA abducted one of the bodyguards, Sami, before the announced killing of Bin Laden last year.

He says the bodyguard disclosed to the US the exact place of burial in the mountains.

“There was no assault. I know the American operations from the inside: they find the grave, dig out bin Laden and tell everyone about this. They need to show how technologically the security services worked, how each step was controlled, and then present it as a great victory to show that taxpayers are not paying taxes for nothing,” he said.

Washington announced on May 2, 2011 that Bin Laden was killed by US forces in his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

The lack of transparency over bin Laden's death has cast further doubt over the announcement.

OMG, The sick Loon is relying on Press TV as a legit source for this.
"Press TV
(stylised PRESSTV) is a 24-hour English language news organization of the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB). IRIB is independent of the Iranian government, but is close to the country's conservative political faction, especially the elite revolutionary guards.[SUP][3][/SUP] PressTV headquarters are located in Tehran, Iran."
 

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Fact or Fiction?
Bin Laden Not killed by US, Claims Former CIA Agent

By Press TV
May 19, 2012 "Press TV" - -In an interview with Russia’s Channel One, Berkan Yashar, who is also a Turkish politician, said the US has not killed the al-Qaeda leader.

“In September of 1992, I was in Chechnya, that’s when I first met the man whose name was Bin Laden. This meeting took place in a two-story house in the city of Grozny; on the top floor was a family of Gamsakhurdia, the Georgian president, who then was kicked out of his country. We met on the bottom floor; Osama lived in the same building,” Yashar said.

According to the former CIA agent, he personally knew Bin Laden’s three Chechen bodyguards, who had protected him until his death and witnessed his death on June 26, 2006.

“Even if the entire world believed, I could not possibly believe it,” Yashar said. “I personally know the Chechens who protected him, they are Sami, Mahmood, and Ayub, and they were with him until the very end.”

“Only three Chechens buried him, according to his will” in the mountains on the Pakistan-Afghan border, he said.

Yashar added that the CIA abducted one of the bodyguards, Sami, before the announced killing of Bin Laden last year.

He says the bodyguard disclosed to the US the exact place of burial in the mountains.

“There was no assault. I know the American operations from the inside: they find the grave, dig out bin Laden and tell everyone about this. They need to show how technologically the security services worked, how each step was controlled, and then present it as a great victory to show that taxpayers are not paying taxes for nothing,” he said.

Washington announced on May 2, 2011 that Bin Laden was killed by US forces in his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

The lack of transparency over bin Laden's death has cast further doubt over the announcement.


Could be true... could be fake.

Neither side has given us proof of anything.

Once I have some evidence of either, then I can make an informed decision. But, Im not going to believe either, cause its all just words and finger pointing, with no PROOF!
 

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If Vlad the Invader is upset that Ukraine wants to be free he can Crimea river !!!!
 

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OMG, The sick Loon is relying on Press TV as a legit source for this.
"Press TV
(stylised PRESSTV) is a 24-hour English language news organization of the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB). IRIB is independent of the Iranian government, but is close to the country's conservative political faction, especially the elite revolutionary guards.[SUP][3][/SUP] PressTV headquarters are located in Tehran, Iran."

Hey Kool-Aid drinker, do you have any idea how many people/sources are calling this fairy tale a 'lie' one way or another?

Pulitzer winner Seymour Hersh: Bin Laden raid ‘one big lie’

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/30/pulitzers-seymour-hersh-bin-laden-raid-one-big-lie/
 

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Could be true... could be fake.

Neither side has given us proof of anything.

Once I have some evidence of either, then I can make an informed decision. But, Im not going to believe either, cause its all just words and finger pointing, with no PROOF!

Exactly! No proof...of ANYTHING! :103631605

"Most transparent administration" my ass!
 

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17:41: US Senator John McCain
has released a strongly-worded statement: "Every moment that the United States and our allies fail to respond sends the signal to President Putin that he can be even more ambitious and aggressive in his military intervention in Ukraine. There is a range of serious options at our disposal at this time without the use of military force. I call on President Obama to rally our European and NATO allies to make clear what costs Russia will face for its aggression and to impose those consequences without further delay."

John McCain was pissed off at Bush for not coming to the rescue of Georgia when Russia moved into South Ossetia 5 years ago.
"Today we are all Georgians" McCain offered in one of his bombastic flourishes. McCain is a war-mongering trouble maker. He wanted to go into Syria & now he wants boots on the ground in Ukraine. I don't think anyone in there right mind listens to him besides Linsey Gramnesty.

The new Ukrain leaders are leaders of merely a "Rump Parliament" left over from the actual legitimate parliament. Legitimate I doubt it.
Leave Ukraine to be sorted out by the Ukraine & Russian factions of Ukraine. My guess is Putin has much popularity & influence
certainly not just in the Crimea. Most of the large cities in the east not just Karkov are clamoring for Russian intervention.
 

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The fascists extremists, militants and terrorists of the Euromaidan Parliament [i.e. the Kiev fascist mob] executed a neo-Nazi coup using armed force. Now they are calling for Umarov the Chechen terrorist to act against Russia, this won't help more clear minded folks prevail.
 

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17:41: US Senator John McCain
has released a strongly-worded statement: "Every moment that the United States and our allies fail to respond sends the signal to President Putin that he can be even more ambitious and aggressive in his military intervention in Ukraine. There is a range of serious options at our disposal at this time without the use of military force. I call on President Obama to rally our European and NATO allies to make clear what costs Russia will face for its aggression and to impose those consequences without further delay."
McCain took one to many for the team in Nam. Having said that I cringe every time he opens his mouth. He is irrelevant in today’s world. It’s time for him to take one last lap around the Senate floor and retire.
 

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Could be true... could be fake.

Neither side has given us proof of anything.

Once I have some evidence of either, then I can make an informed decision. But, Im not going to believe either, cause its all just words and finger pointing, with no PROOF!

So they have to send you a sample of his DNA for you to accept their word? Lmao
 

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Fact or Fiction?
Bin Laden Not killed by US, Claims Former CIA Agent

By Press TV
May 19, 2012 "Press TV" - -In an interview with Russia’s Channel One, Berkan Yashar, who is also a Turkish politician, said the US has not killed the al-Qaeda leader.

“In September of 1992, I was in Chechnya, that’s when I first met the man whose name was Bin Laden. This meeting took place in a two-story house in the city of Grozny; on the top floor was a family of Gamsakhurdia, the Georgian president, who then was kicked out of his country. We met on the bottom floor; Osama lived in the same building,” Yashar said.

According to the former CIA agent, he personally knew Bin Laden’s three Chechen bodyguards, who had protected him until his death and witnessed his death on June 26, 2006.

“Even if the entire world believed, I could not possibly believe it,” Yashar said. “I personally know the Chechens who protected him, they are Sami, Mahmood, and Ayub, and they were with him until the very end.”

“Only three Chechens buried him, according to his will” in the mountains on the Pakistan-Afghan border, he said.

Yashar added that the CIA abducted one of the bodyguards, Sami, before the announced killing of Bin Laden last year.

He says the bodyguard disclosed to the US the exact place of burial in the mountains.

“There was no assault. I know the American operations from the inside: they find the grave, dig out bin Laden and tell everyone about this. They need to show how technologically the security services worked, how each step was controlled, and then present it as a great victory to show that taxpayers are not paying taxes for nothing,” he said.

Washington announced on May 2, 2011 that Bin Laden was killed by US forces in his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

The lack of transparency over bin Laden's death has cast further doubt over the announcement.

Press TV? The propaganda arm of the Iranian government? Really Joe?
The Guesser is throwing you 72 MPH hanging curves saying Obama > Bush and this is what you come up with, an Iranian "US did not get Osama" conspiracy?
 

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Iranian TV, 2 channels. Channel 1 plays propaganda. Channel 2 has a white background, and in black lettering states, "You must turn back immediately to Channel 1!"


















No, not really. That was actually Russian TV in the 60s, not Iran. Iran is pretty close though. On channel 3 they hang gays.
 

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