US sinks UN resolution on Yassin

[PatPatriot]

OK....so since there will always be shit going on the only way that there will be peace is if one side or the other is totally wiped out in a war....Well eek,whats your preference?Isreal or "Palastine"?

By the way anytime real peace has ever been achieved is when one side or the other is totally crushed.

 

[Oceans11]

What, like 300 million arabs or 3million Jews?

My, you've really thought hard about that one...

Or do you plan on asking a special neocon trick question and only killing the ones that give the wrong answer?

Anyway, its pretty obvious that the US & Israel want conflict in the region.
The middle east should keep you busy for a few generations.

And the more shit you give them the more they will unite against a common foe.

[This message was edited by eek on March 27, 2004 at 10:12 PM.]

 

[Mr NJ Sports]

I will agree with the left on this whole support Israel and they can do no wrong stuff. That stuff actually pisses me off. Kids throw rocks and the Israelis fire at them. But to condemn them for killing a terrorist is just stupidity.

Where are there resolutions condemning killings of translators in Iraq?

 

[xpanda]

Patriot: annhilating one side is the only answer? Funny that they call it a 'peace process' isn't it? Wake up and smell the hypocrisy.

 

[PatPatriot]

Has anybody ever looked at the israli deaths that have come from "Roller raghead"?....and then say that he has not made himself free game is fxckin absurd...if these guys had a free shot at sharon they would drool at the chance.
X..the hypocracy comes from claiming they want peace then when given to them on a silver platter,they respond by conducting more attacks.The whole palastinian argument is hypocritical and phoney....Every israli attack has been a response to terroist attacks....What positive thing have the plo ever given to the process??

 

[xpanda]

Palestine has NEVER been given a fair peace offer. Every deal presented to them has involved admitting defeat and accepting exile as their fate. Even more alarming is that these 'deals' come from a race of people who have endured hundreds of years of persecution. I'll admit that fighting for years over a strip of land seems ludicrous in my eyes, but you must take Israel off this pedestal you've got them on ... Palestine is not the only bad guy in this situation.

 

[Oceans11]

As mentioned before.

The oppressed are now the oppressors.

and Hamas is a direct by-product of that policy.

The only Israeli leader that got close to a peace deal....got shot dead.
The other leaders, that keep the war going, don't even have assassination attempts against them.

They are as bad as each other.

Are there any negotiation/mediation/efforts being made?
Don't think so.

America is a complete waste of space as far as the middle east is concerned.

The modern Israeli political culture seems to be addicted to war & conflict, they wouldn't know what to to with themselves if there wasn't some sort of crisis.

[This message was edited by eek on March 28, 2004 at 05:39 AM.]

 

[PatPatriot]

Answer me this...do the "Palastinians" that live in Jordan do any better???Why not the hatred toward the Jordanians??

Why should Isreal agree to a palastinian state unless they are garanteed a peace first??Whats the point?I don't think its that big a request to agree to if you don't want peace in the first place.
By the way they were givin almost everything they asked in general..until Ararat walked away from a deal..he actually was given more and was shocked.Why couldn't he take yes for an answer.

[This message was edited by Patriot on March 28, 2004 at 06:03 AM.]

 

[UncleMoneybags]

I guess I have a different definition for fair. The Oslo Accords was more than fair IMO. Withdrawal of troops from disputed areas and Palestinian rule of the disputed areas for the most part. They would have had to condemn and fight terrorism but I don't see that as asking too much. You have to remember that war has consequences. If you lose you have to be prepared to pay the piper (i.e. Gaza, West Bank and the Golan Heights). They fought the Israeli's and then cried because it cost them territorially.

Barak also made some compromises but the Palestinians balked yet again. I suppose they should just give all of Israel proper and the disputed territories to the Palestinians so that they might live in peace and be free from terrorist threats.

 

[Oceans11]

For those of you who are clueless enough to wonder why there was a UN resolution on Yassin, he was their leader(and probaly the moral successor to Arafat), and he was openly assassinated by a foreign country.

BTW. If FDR been taken out by a hellfire missile the US population might be a teeny bit pissed off with the perpetrator.

[This message was edited by eek on March 28, 2004 at 07:25 AM.]

 

[PatPatriot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> he was their leader(and probaly the moral successor to Arafat), and he was openly assassinated <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah I hear yea, now hamas have what the media is calling a hardline leader as opposed to a "moderate" leader another UN type liberal euphomism...kind of like going from a moderate murderer to really hard line murderer...The faster you guys learn not be apoligising for these fxckin animals the better everyone will be.

 

[Shotgun]

Come on Eek, the left for the past year has been bitching and moaning about how the US should have taken Saddam out through a bullet rather than war; now they bitch and moan about Israel taking its mortal enemy out? What is the difference between Bin Laden and that 'old man in a wheelchair'? In my opinion there isn't much.

War has its rules. When you deliberately target civilians, and make destruction of the other side your ultimate political goal, you should expect to be treated much differently than other leaders in wartime. Hamas is a terror organization; the old man in a wheelchair was its leader. Until Hamas stops targeting citizens, this will be the result.

 

[bblight]

Call me wrong headed, but I don't see a lot of difference between a man in a wheel chair or a perfectly healthy man directing a small army with the goal of destroyng me, my family, and my culture.

I'd want both people dead by any means possible. By the way, these same people would kill me and mine because I'm an American - so I do support and applaud Israel evey time they put down one of these animals.