I think you should do some analysis on the numbers before calling something a "Collosol (sic) mistake". They're truly terrifying and this isn't going away any time soon.. US will have more infections than any other society in the world in a day or two, up 5797 as of 13:24 today, day's only half over. Blew by Spain's numbers today like shit though a goose. That's double yesterday. Only way to stop this is a brutal lockdown for min 14 days
You and others like you keep comparing this to "the flu", it isn't the flu, COVID-19 has a much longer incubation period and survives on stuff like NYC subway poles for much longer. It's infected millions of Americans who don't know it yet, and that is the problem.
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Of course the number of infections in the US will surpass all others - we have about 7x the population of Spain and 5.5x the population of Italy. Not sure of Spain testing procedures, but the US was not up to par in the testing department, so of course there is going to be a spike in cases once you test people. FYI, Spain's numbers are also growing day by day, with yesterday being the highest day of new infections. Italy trending downward over last few days.
The US is like 50 separate countries almost, especially since the states are making these decisions to shutter or not. To say it was huge mistake to shut down everything is tough to judge. NY needs to be shut down based on the fact that 50% of cases in US are there, and when you talk NY, that also means NJ, CT, PA due to proximity. I would say the same with CA and WA - they need lockdown. And when I say lockdown, I mean for longer than from now until Easter. However, should Florida be shut down? It looks very different here than it does in other places - my county has 4 confirmed cases. 4. And we are not locked down other than restaurant/bars/public beaches. Miami Dade is a different story though.
The death rate here is 1 per 400K of population, which is almost the same as China, South Korea and Germany. Is this overblown? It is serious, more serious than the flu. NY is not overblown. They have a real problem. But we aren't Spain or Italy. I don't think we will get that bad overall.
The US is like 50 separate countries almost, especially since the states are making these decisions to shutter or not. To say it was huge mistake to shut down everything is tough to judge. NY needs to be shut down based on the fact that 50% of cases in US are there, and when you talk NY, that also means NJ, CT, PA due to proximity. I would say the same with CA and WA - they need lockdown. And when I say lockdown, I mean for longer than from now until Easter. However, should Florida be shut down? It looks very different here than it does in other places - my county has 4 confirmed cases. 4. And we are not locked down other than restaurant/bars/public beaches. Miami Dade is a different story though.
The death rate here is 1 per 400K of population, which is almost the same as China, South Korea and Germany. Is this overblown? It is serious, more serious than the flu. NY is not overblown. They have a real problem. But we aren't Spain or Italy. I don't think we will get that bad overall.
We already are that bad overall. The rate of infection increase is the scary number not the country to country totals. USA Infections are roaring ahead at a faster rate than any other society. US is doing less to contain it than any other society. To top it off we have a "leader" that keeps comparing viral infections to car accidents (WTF). FFS clueless kids were partying with their noses up each other's butts on Miami Beach, what, under a week ago? "If I get Corona I get Corona" remember that? well I hate to break it to you, you're getting Corona.
Having trouble with the math on how we are that bad already:
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| ITALY | IRAN | GERMANY | ENGLAND | CHINA | SOUTH KOREA | SPAIN | US ACTUAL | |
| Population | 60,500,000 | 81,160,000 | 82,790,000 | 55,980,000 | 1,386,000,000 | 51,470,000 | 46,660,000 | 327,200,000 |
| Cases | 74,386 | 27,017 | 35,740 | 8,227 | 81,218 | 9,137 | 47,610 | 60,653 |
| Deaths | 7,503 | 2,077 | 186 | 433 | 3,281 | 126 | 3,434 | 819 |
| % of Cases/Population | 0.12% | 0.03% | 0.04% | 0.01% | 0.01% | 0.02% | 0.10% | 0.02% |
| % of Deaths/Cases | 10.09% | 7.69% | 0.52% | 5.26% | 4.04% | 1.38% | 7.21% | 1.35% |
| Deaths per Person | 8,063 | 39,076 | 445,108 | 129,284 | 422,432 | 408,492 | 13,588 | 399,512 |
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| | ITALY | IRAN | GERMANY | ENGLAND | CHINA | SOUTH KOREA | SPAIN | US ACTUAL |
| Population | 60,500,000 | 81,160,000 | 82,790,000 | 55,980,000 | 1,386,000,000 | 51,470,000 | 46,660,000 | 327,200,000 |
| Cases | 74,386 | 27,017 | 35,740 | 8,227 | 81,218 | 9,137 | 47,610 | 60,653 |
| Deaths | 7,503 | 2,077 | 186 | 433 | 3,281 | 126 | 3,434 | 819 |
| % of Cases/Population | 0.12% | 0.03% | 0.04% | 0.01% | 0.01% | 0.02% | 0.10% | 0.02% |
| % of Deaths/Cases | 10.09% | 7.69% | 0.52% | 5.26% | 4.04% | 1.38% | 7.21% | 1.35% |
| Deaths per Person | 8,063 | 39,076 | 445,108 | 129,284 | 422,432 | 408,492 | 13,588 | 399,512 |
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" "We'll only do it if it's good. We'll do large sections of the country," Trump said, adding he would listen closely to recommendations from Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx, two top medical experts on the White House coronavirus taskforce."
"Large sections", not all the US of A. So some places, like NYC for example, might need much longer than Easter before restrictions are eased?
"Large sections", not all the US of A. So some places, like NYC for example, might need much longer than Easter before restrictions are eased?
Italy total cases up 9% from 3/23 to 3/24. Italy total cases peaked on 3/21, 29 days after first reported case.
Spain total cases up 9% from 3/23 to 3/24. Spain highest day was yesterday at 3/24. 29 days since their first reported case would be 4/1.
US total cases up 9% from 3/23 to 3/24. US highest day was also yesterday - 3/24. 29 days from our first reported case would be 4/3.
We are on about the same pace right now as others, albeit the worst of them. But our death rate so far is 30x less than Spain. I would expect our total case numbers to spike higher as well due to expanded testing.
I think NY, NJ, CA, LA are good calls - I would throw in WA and CT, and maybe a handful of specific counties.
Spain total cases up 9% from 3/23 to 3/24. Spain highest day was yesterday at 3/24. 29 days since their first reported case would be 4/1.
US total cases up 9% from 3/23 to 3/24. US highest day was also yesterday - 3/24. 29 days from our first reported case would be 4/3.
We are on about the same pace right now as others, albeit the worst of them. But our death rate so far is 30x less than Spain. I would expect our total case numbers to spike higher as well due to expanded testing.
I think NY, NJ, CA, LA are good calls - I would throw in WA and CT, and maybe a handful of specific counties.
