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I'm hoping the Bulls can get in the top-5 tonight so they can trade that pick with Ben Wallace for Garnett.

Mchale isn't stupid enough to make that trade unless it's the first or second pick.... is he?
ummm....have you followed Mchale's history as a GM? Is there a worse GM in the league? Mchale is stupid enough to offer 2 first round draft picks + Garnett for Wallace.
 

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Hibbert is far from defensive minded. Trust me. I have watched every one of his games since he joined the Hoyas… He is a solid defender in college hoops but most <?xml:namespace prefix = st2 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:cs:smarttags" /><st2:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="7">7</st2:NumConv6p0>-<st2:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="2">2</st2:NumConv6p0> guys in college are going to be blocking shots and playing D… Overall, Hoyas D was great b/c all <st2:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="5">5</st2:NumConv6p0> can defend and JT<st2:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="3">3</st2:NumConv6p0> preached defense.
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Hibbert’s main weakness is he lacks athletic ability and cannot run worth dooo doooo. Also, he is not in that great of shape compared to college athletes. He was subbed out of games numerous times b/c he was flat out exhausted. That was JT<st2:NumConv6p0 sch="1" val="3">3</st2:NumConv6p0> biggest complaints of <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place>Roy</st1:place></st1:City>’s before last season. He got much better but he still has a long way to go… I personally think he would be a terrible fit for the Suns. He would fit into a team that plays ½ court offense not a run and gun system.<o:p></o:p>

He blocked tons of shots and played for a coach that stressed defense above all.... single-handedly beat UNC with his defense, yet he isn't defensive minded.... OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK. What is he then.... offensive minded? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!He is athletic. Didn't you see that when he went toe to toe with Oden????? Yeah, he's slow, but what 7'2" isn't? You think Duncan's fast? You think Shaq's fast????? Hibbert can play with ANY team. He'll bring the Suns the interior defense that they desperate need to compete with the Spurs. He doesn't need to be fast, he's not gonna be a wing man on a fast break. He's exacty what the Suns need to beat the likes of Spurs.
 

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One of Amare's major roles at the 5 is on Phoenix's secondary break. He trails and scorches right down the middle thru the paint where Nash finds him for a monster throw down in traffic. Hibbert isn't even close to being able to fill a role like that. He was very slow in college which translates into incredibly slow in the NBA. Size alone allowed for 3+ blocks a game in college but with freakishly physically gifted athletes all around him they will make him look like he's standing in cement on pick and rolls, fast breaks, etc...
 

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ummm....have you followed Mchale's history as a GM? Is there a worse GM in the league? Mchale is stupid enough to offer 2 first round draft picks + Garnett for Wallace.

You must not have heard of Elgin Baylor. He drafted Olowokandi over the likes of Vince Carter, Mike Bibby, Antawn Jamison, Dirk Nowitski, and Paul Pierce. With numerous lottery picks since the 80s, he's only had one all-star (Danny Manning) and rest were monumental busts. The only good move he's ever made was trading for Elton Brand.
 
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Garnett is a world class player

Amare is an overrated youngster with no defense or post moves

most of his points come from dunks after being set up from someone else

You are not acknowledging that A.S. is quite younger & still developing his game on both sides of the ball. I don't think it is fair to compare the two at this point & time. If you go by consistency & a proven track record K.G. wins hands down.
 

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If you think Hibbert is athletic there is no point in arguing… You clearly have not watched many Gtown games… I have watched more then the 2 you watched so I am sure I know his skill set better then anyone on this site… Duncan and Shaq are 10 times the athlete Hibbert is… It’s not even comparable…

This is coming from the biggest Gtown homer in existence…

Hibbert is slow moving in the post and will have to get quicker to defend NBA big men…. He blocks shots b/c he is 7-2 but is far from known as a defensive stopper. Ewing and Mourning were defensive stoppers… He is not even in the same level as those 2…

Hibbert is slow, out of shape, and cannot run. He is not very athletic… This was stated by his coach… Gtown tailors there game around his skill set so it suits him well…

And he did not single handily win beat UNC with his defense… UNC scored 81 points in 40 minutes… UNC front court scored 40 points of those points… Yes he had many blocks that game but again he is 7-2 so he is expected to block shots…

BTW he is staying at Gtown another year so it does not matter…
 

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One of Amare's major roles at the 5 is on Phoenix's secondary break. He trails and scorches right down the middle thru the paint where Nash finds him for a monster throw down in traffic. Hibbert isn't even close to being able to fill a role like that. He was very slow in college which translates into incredibly slow in the NBA. Size alone allowed for 3+ blocks a game in college but with freakishly physically gifted athletes all around him they will make him look like he's standing in cement on pick and rolls, fast breaks, etc...

Did you not see Hibbert pretty much outplay Oden in the national semi-final game? Did you not see Hibbert pretty much shut down UNC's interior game, forcing them take outside jumpers, which allowed GT to comeback and win?????To say that his height is the reason for his blocks is retarded. How many blocks does Nowitski & Gasol have? Not much, because they are NOT defensive-minded players even though they are 7 footers. Why woud they need Hibbert to be like Amare when he's going to play the 4 spot alongside him? Hibbert is not an offensive powerhouse like Amare, no kidding. His role with the Suns would be pretty much like Kurt Thomas, play defense and hit an occasional shot. Isn't it interesting the only time the Suns played good defense in the playoffs was when Kurt Thomas started in place of the suspended Amare?I grew up watching the Showtime Lakers and do you honestly believe Kareem was involved in any of those fast breaks? No..... he usually initiated it with his rebounds then got his points in the half court sets. EVERY SINGLE TEAM RUNS A HALF COURT SET, yes, even the Suns. And this is where Hibbert's scoring factors in, with his back to the basket. He scored almost 20pts against Oden! Hibbert went from a college "project" to a lottery pick with his work ethic. And if you think he can't play in the NBA, he'll prove you wrong once again. Which is moot as of now since he's returning for his senior year.
 

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If you think Hibbert is athletic there is no point in arguing… You clearly have not watched many Gtown games… I have watched more then the 2 you watched so I am sure I know his skill set better then anyone on this site… Duncan and Shaq are 10 times the athlete Hibbert is… It’s not even comparable…

This is coming from the biggest Gtown homer in existence…

Hibbert is slow moving in the post and will have to get quicker to defend NBA big men…. He blocks shots b/c he is 7-2 but is far from known as a defensive stopper. Ewing and Mourning were defensive stoppers… He is not even in the same level as those 2…

Hibbert is slow, out of shape, and cannot run. He is not very athletic… This was stated by his coach… Gtown tailors there game around his skill set so it suits him well…

And he did not single handily win beat UNC with his defense… UNC scored 81 points in 40 minutes… UNC front court scored 40 points of those points… Yes he had many blocks that game but again he is 7-2 so he is expected to block shots…

BTW he is staying at Gtown another year so it does not matter…

Geez, why do people think they are NBA scouts just because they watched "every game"? And I've watched more than two games. I watched every game that was televised because I bet GT. But did anyone not see him go toe to toe with the great Oden? Did anyone not see him shut down UNC's interior game, forcing them to take low percentage shots? HE BECAME A LOTTERY PICK DUE TO HIS PERFORMANCE IN THE PLAYOFFS. To say otherwise is just retarded.UNC scored most of their points in the first half with Hibbert in foul trouble. They went 1-24 FG in the final 15 minutes of the game because they were taking low percentage outside jumpers because they could not penetrate inside due to Hibbert's defensive dominance. That's what 6 blocks does to your opponents, INTIMIDATION.
 

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Yeah... But you are the NBA Scout b/c you watched a few games... My bad...

On a side note, fawk it... I agree. I am 2 much of a homer not to... Hibbert will be the next dominant center in the NBA... He will lead the suns to a championship... LETS GO HOYAS...
 

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Did you not see Hibbert pretty much outplay Oden in the national semi-final game? Did you not see Hibbert pretty much shut down UNC's interior game, forcing them take outside jumpers, which allowed GT to comeback and win?????To say that his height is the reason for his blocks is retarded. How many blocks does Nowitski & Gasol have? Not much, because they are NOT defensive-minded players even though they are 7 footers. Why woud they need Hibbert to be like Amare when he's going to play the 4 spot alongside him? Hibbert is not an offensive powerhouse like Amare, no kidding. His role with the Suns would be pretty much like Kurt Thomas, play defense and hit an occasional shot. Isn't it interesting the only time the Suns played good defense in the playoffs was when Kurt Thomas started in place of the suspended Amare?I grew up watching the Showtime Lakers and do you honestly believe Kareem was involved in any of those fast breaks? No..... he usually initiated it with his rebounds then got his points in the half court sets. EVERY SINGLE TEAM RUNS A HALF COURT SET, yes, even the Suns. And this is where Hibbert's scoring factors in, with his back to the basket. He scored almost 20pts against Oden! Hibbert went from a college "project" to a lottery pick with his work ethic. And if you think he can't play in the NBA, he'll prove you wrong once again. Which is moot as of now since he's returning for his senior year.


Please quit talking about how Hibbert would be a good fit on the suns. It is completely and utterly ridiculous. You tried to show yesterday you don't seem to know much, don't make it worse.
 

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Riiiiight.... just like Kareem was a bad fit for the Showtime Lakers.... 5 titles & 9 finals with him even though he never ran the fastbreak. Stop posting about the NBA because you're overmatched.
 

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No point in discussing anything with know-it-alls. Don't waste your time, fellas.

It's people like crunch who will eventually kill every discussion on here. Eventually, there aren't gonna be any newbies left to waste their time trying to discuss anything with this guy. Everyone will eventually know better.
 

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Stoudamire is great but the day Nash leaves unless a Jason Kidd PG shows up his performance is going to drop - no team runs the pick and roll like Nash and Amare - even my Spurs with TD and TP don't run it to prefection like the Suns - but like I said - Amare has virtually no low post moves - but he makes up for it with his speed and amazing shot for for big man.
 

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Riiiiight.... just like Kareem was a bad fit for the Showtime Lakers.... 5 titles & 9 finals with him even though he never ran the fastbreak. Stop posting about the NBA because you're overmatched.


Just to get this cleared up, you are comparing Hibbert to Kareem?
 

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