House edge is what it is every roll but it will be different for every player depending on where he stacks his chips. No one (or very few if they hit the back wall) can manipulate legit dice but players can stay out of high vig bets and play along with the better %'s of the game. So yes, whether or not a game is beatable or not doesn't discount the fact there are degrees to how well someone plays craps.....GreenDoberman said:Illini's post is accurate, saying he's a helluva craps player is akin to a helluva bingo or lottery player, or a helluva roulette player. The house edge is what it is, on each and every roll.