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The way jocks throw a race is rather easy to spot. The problem is finding out about this before the race starts. All jockeys are, or were involved one time in their career. I remember going to Santa Anita for John Longden's last ride. It was in the 1966 San Juan Capistrano Handicap. The jockey's made sure that he won. The odds dropped from the 40/1 openers to 6/1. It was not the best kept secret. Earlier in the day, Longden won the 4th race, when it was obvious that Bill Hartack hand rode his horse instead of using the whip in a head bobber with Longden's horse. To this day, everyone who saw that race say that Hartack let Longden win.

The way you described Hartack's and Longden's way of doing business is probablly one of the many tricks the jockey's use in these "jockey" races. But the big drop in odds is definitely a tell, however the system lays out some parameters to follow when looking for an overlay. I never knew that Lafite Pincay and Johnny Velasquez were cousins until I saw them work a field of horses together. Vellasquez trailed behind Pincay's horse at the rail coming into the home stretch with Vellasquez's horse neatly tucked in behind him on the rail. In the last 300 - 400 yards before the finish, Plncays horse as was predictable, started running out of gas and his Pincay let the horse drift out wide across the track as they bared down on the finish line. Every other horse in the field had to pull up to avoid a collision with Pincay's horse as he was drifting wide across the track which gave a clear path to Johnny Vellasauez to run right up the rail and take the race. I knew that the guy giving me the information was hooked up to the right people and trusted him with $500 for the information. It was a thing of beauty to watch. I'll never forget what my contact man told me after the race. He was bitching about how the Mexicans charged him a ton of money to let him in on the fix. That was of course not a system play, but it sure opened my eyes up about what goes on behind the scenes in these races.

Now go fix your private messaging... or shoot me an email and I'll copy you both systems.
 

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I have no idea what is going on, but try it again. If this does not work, I will give you an e-mail to contact me and we will go that route.

I get this message when I try to PM you...

"BigdaddyQH has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed
to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her."

Hell if I know what's going on here. Maybe you should try telling a mod about it.
Or... Maybe you can PM me first and I can answer it? Do an email if all else fails.
Let me know what happens.
 

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Conan. Send me an e-mail at: tempbdqh It can be short, That way I can get your e-mail address and send you the e-mail address that I normally use.
 

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Conan. Send me an e-mail at: tempbdqh It can be short, That way I can get your e-mail address and send you the e-mail address that I normally use.

i tried to send you the system at the email "tempbdqh" unfortunately i don't know what domain to use...(gmail.com, hotmail.com, etc.)

If I can't do it, I might just post it here and let the winds of fate decide.
You know that you can create a gmail.com account then throw it away
when you're done with it.
 

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Two guys who could kill each other one day and be "lovers in the night" the next day.

God theRX CFB is a great place to be with some great characters.

Hell, I invited Coach out on a date after a minor dustup.....he wanted flowers and ...............................
 

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Two guys who could kill each other one day and be "lovers in the night" the next day.

God theRX CFB is a great place to be with some great characters.

Hell, I invited Coach out on a date after a minor dustup.....he wanted flowers and ...............................
I think bi-polar is the word you're looking for..
 

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Sooners, you and Mack are two of the most "level" mannered posters here. We all get excited at times but NO other site comes close to the knowledge and characters we enjoy on this CFB forum.

For example, when Mack post and he doesn't post often....learn to read between the lines. There's usually a good message with lots of knowledge from that ole timer. He talks....I listen.

Good guys at this forum...some of the best!
 

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Sooners, you and Mack are two of the most "level" mannered posters here. We all get excited at times but NO other site comes close to the knowledge and characters we enjoy on this CFB forum.

For example, when Mack post and he doesn't post often....learn to read between the lines. There's usually a good message with lots of knowledge from that ole timer. He talks....I listen.

Good guys at this forum...some of the best!
Mack is one of the good guys. If you don't like Mack, your the one with the problem...
 

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Red and BD, I did a little bit of editing to it so it's clearer and better organized than the first draft.
I also clarified the overlay system so it will be easier to follow and plug into. You probably won't find
more than one or two good races to bet in any session, but it could give you a long shot and reveal
a "jockey race" that will pull the cheaters' pants down to their knees. Check your mail/messages.

:chest:
 

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bigdaddy get your ass down to Vegas... I'm here for the next 4 days
NOW you tell me? What about a little advanced notice. I have all kinds of things going on here now. I need more than 2 hours notice. Why Vegas now? Nothing going on that interests me except the Preakness, and I can take care of that here.
 

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NOW you tell me? What about a little advanced notice. I have all kinds of things going on here now. I need more than 2 hours notice. Why Vegas now? Nothing going on that interests me except the Preakness, and I can take care of that here.

Ok.I will be back on the 3rd thru the 6th..
 

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Yes the weather is something you have to deal with in Oklahoma especially in the Moore area. We do have very good meteorologists on the local TV stations and that really does help. Oklahoma is expecting more rain over the next couple of days and in my lifetime I have never seen flash flooding like has happened recently.

I think Clover hit it right, despite some differences this part of the forum is pretty civil. We share info and overall we are on the same page most of the time. I am waiting on Steele's preseason stuff and I will get more involved by mid July. Meanwhile I hope everyone has a very good summer.
 

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I couldn't believe how hot it was last time we played at ou....it was 95+ at game time...
 

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What places do you all recommend staying at near norman? Sooner legends?... Last time closet we could get was near a SAMs..don't remember name of the road...but it was a Hampton inn, I think.
 

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What places do you all recommend staying at near norman? Sooner legends?... Last time closet we could get was near a SAMs..don't remember name of the road...but it was a Hampton inn, I think.

If you like casino's you could stay at the Riverwind Hotel/Casino on Hwy 9 just s. of Norman - They have a buffet and a Vegas like Casino
 

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