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Although I confess ignorance in most economic principals, I am educated enough to know that most persons calling themselves economist are the same as I.

However there seems to be one sure way to tell if a economic theory has merit, The more conservatives saying that it is wrong, the better chance it stands of being right.
 

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A lot of the money is going to be spent on a 100 foot high wall which runs the full length of southern texas.

That's off the table. Its purpose of getting idiots elected failed.
 
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On Tuesday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid admitted that he DIDN'T have the votes to pass the "Porkulus Bill."

It should have been OVER! The Obama-Pelosi Theft Act of 2009 (aka the Pelosi-Obama-Reid stimulus bill") SHOULD HAVE BEEN DEAD ON ARRIVAL!

BUT NO... a group of Republicans-In-Name-Only (RINOs) REFUSED TO WIN... they REFUSED to let this horrendous bill die. They REFUSED to allow hundreds of billions of dollars in pork, socialist wish list projects and payoffs to liberal special interests (like ACORN) go down the drain.

Without missing a beat, they scrambled to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory... they plotted behind closed doors to RESURRECT THIS EVIL "PORKULUS BILL" FROM THE DEAD!

Of course, there is some good news! You've already forced some Senators, who originally supported this travesty of a bill, to see the light.

Some of them changed their tunes once you started bombarding their offices with YOUR BLAST FAXES and phone calls.

Some of them are even talking tough now. And, their sudden reversal is a testament to what you can do when you make your voice heard!

But three stubborn Republicans-In-Name-Only still REFUSE to get the message; namely Senators Arlen Specter, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins!

On Friday, they announced with almost perverse pride and pleasure that they had reached a "deal" with the opposition to cut $100 billion of liberal pet projects, pork and political payoffs from this "porkulus bill."

They announced to the American people that they cut the bill down to $780 billion (the figure could still go higher and surpass $925 billion again when it's all said and done).

And that number doesnt even account for more than $300 billion in debt commitments created by this monstrosity, according to some estimates.

In other words, were still looking at over a trillion dollars of hard-earned taxpayer dollars, the large majority of which will go to fund liberal pet projects, pork and political payoffs, instead of stimulating the economy.

Yet, because they were able to negotiate a few cuts here and there, Specter, Collins and Snowe expect you to believe that everything is good.

Right?

WRONG!

As House Minority Leader John Boehner said on Friday, "90 percent of a bad idea is still a bad idea."

That's why our elected officials need to hear from you AGAIN! Despite what you may be hearing in the media, this so-called "deal" is VERY FRAGILE! We can BUST IT if we all act now!

And this is URGENT, because the Senate may vote on this BOGUS COMPROMISE as early as Monday!

<CENTER>Use the hyperlink below to send your 42 personalized faxes to Barack Obama and the Republican Members of the United States Senate!

Tell them in no uncertain terms that the American people DON'T want them to "tinker" with this evil bill or to try to "fix" it. The American people do not want any "compromises" or "amendments" or ANY AMOUNT OF LIPSTICK PUT ON THIS PIG OF A BILL.

The American people want the Obama-Pelosi Theft Act of 2009 DEAD... A STAKE DRIVEN THROUGH ITS EVIL HEART! Tell them - to borrow a phrase from former First Lady Nancy Reagan - they just need to say "NO" and stop this liberal boondoggle!


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Yes... You Are Having An Effect And It's Time To Finish The Job!

</CENTER> You've been telling our elected officials - in no uncertain terms - "NO WAY," and some of them IMMEDIATELY got the message! In fact, YOU MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN JUST A MATTER OF HOURS!

Just look at how things have changed in a matter of days.

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Senator John McCain's first reaction several days ago was to join others in proposing his own version of the stimulus bill. His price tag was a mere $425 billion! NOW McCain's talking tough. He recently said, "If this legislation is passed, it'll be a very bad day for America." He also told the press; "We want to stimulate the economy, not mortgage the future of our children and grandchildren by the kind of fiscally profligate spending embodied in this legislation."

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Senator Lindsey Graham initially appeared to indicate that he was willing to play "Let's Make A Deal." A few days ago he said; "Get us all in a room. That's what you do with a major piece of legislation." He even told a group of business owners in Spartanburg, South Carolina; "I don't like borrowing more of your money than we've already borrowed but I find myself in a position where I don't believe the private sector has the ability to jump start our economy." By Friday, Graham didn't appear as willing to negotiate! He told Greta Van Susteren of FOX News: "The process that's led to this bill stinks. There is no negotiating going on here! Nobody is negotiating! We're making this up as we go!"

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Senator Mitch McConnell initially appeared content to put lipstick on this pig of a bill and offered the following statement: "We look forward to offering amendments to improve this critical legislation and move it back to the package President Obama originally proposed." NOW he's singing a different tune and is calling the so-called stimulus an "aimless spending spree that masquerades as a stimulus."

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And several of the Republican-In-Name-Only Senators who initially sided with Collins, Snowe, Specter and the opposition (Senators George Voinovich, Lisa Murkowski and Mel Martinez), BACKED-OFF ON FRIDAY.

WHAT A DIFFERENCE A DAY MAKES!

But have no delusions! These elected officials didn't all suddenly have a change of heart. They did not wake up on Thursday or Friday morning and miraculously come to their senses.

THEY HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR! That's a testament to the effect you can have but it ALSO means that if they stop hearing from you at this crucial time, they might backslide. We can't let that happen!

Why not?

Because as things now stand, Democrats only have 57 votes in the Senate.

They desperately NEED Specter and Snowe and Collins to reach the magic number of 60 votes needed to send this horrendous "porkulus bill" forward!

Make no mistake, we CAN stop the Obama-Pelosi Theft Act of 2009, but we must ACT NOW because a vote can come as early as Monday!

<CENTER>Use the hyperlink below to send your 42 personalized faxes to Barack Obama and the Republican Members of the United States Senate!

Tell them in no uncertain terms that the American people DON'T want them to "tinker" with this evil bill or to try to "fix" it. The American people do not want any "compromises" or "amendments" or ANY AMOUNT OF LIPSTICK PUT ON THIS PIG OF A BILL.

The American people want the Obama-Pelosi Theft Act of 2009 DEAD... A STAKE DRIVEN THROUGH ITS EVIL HEART! Tell them - to borrow a phrase from former First Lady Nancy Reagan - they just need to say "NO" and stop this liberal boondoggle!


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The More You Look At What Is Happening, The Sicker You Become!

</CENTER> People are losing their jobs, employment prospects are bleak, homes are going into foreclosure, and liberals in the House and Senate had the nerve to try to use the misfortune of others as an excuse to trick the American people into spending nearly a TRILLION dollars we did not even have on pork, pet-projects and political payoffs.

And they thought they could get away with it by calling it a "Stimulus Package" when, in fact, IT HAD LITTLE OR NOTHING TO DO WITH STIMULATING THE ECONOMY!

To put the original figure of $925 billion in perspective, that's approximately $3,000 for every man, woman and child in the United States... a $12,000 back-breaking obligation for the average family of four... a legacy of debt and a diminished standard of living for our children and grandchildren. And that's on top of the $700 billion that we've already spent!

You were RIGHT to tell them "NO WAY!"

But what did some of these Republicans-In-Name-Only do? Instead of LETTING THIS EVIL "PORKULUS BILL" DIE WHEN SUPPORTERS COULD NOT MUSTER THE VOTES TO PASS IT, they thought - for whatever reason - they should tinker with it and shove it down the throats of the American people.

Essentially, they tried to put lipstick this pig instead of slaughtering the vile animal!

Right now, Collins, Snowe and Specter are essentially looking the American people dead in the eye and saying:

We hear you loud and clear. $925 billion of Congressional pork and payoffs to liberal special interests like ACORN is simply UNACCEPTABLE! How about $780 billion of Congressional pork and payoffs to liberal special interests instead?

THAT'S RIDICULOUS! What are they thinking?

Congressman Gene Taylor, a Democrat from Mississippi, put it all in perspective when he observed:

"The nation borrowed $800 billion between the Revolutionary War through Gerald Ford's presidency. In one vote, the nation is going to borrow another 800 billion. This is nuts."

To speak frankly, this so-called "stimulus bill" (which has nothing to do with stimulating the economy and has everything to do with pork and payoffs to liberal special interests) is not just "NUTS." it is just PLAIN EVIL!

That's NOT what the American people want. The American people DON'T want this evil bill "fixed." The American people want this evil bill DEAD... PERIOD... END OF SENTENCE!

Republican Senators should know better! Putting lipstick on this pig of a bill is NOT going to make it any less socialist... any less egregious... any more palatable to the American people.

Our elected officials need to hear from you AGAIN... RIGHT NOW.

<CENTER>Use the hyperlink below to send your 42 personalized faxes to Barack Obama and the Republican Members of the United States Senate!

Tell them in no uncertain terms that the American people DON'T want them to "tinker" with this evil bill or to try to "fix" it. The American people do not want any "compromises" or "amendments" or ANY AMOUNT OF LIPSTICK PUT ON THIS PIG OF A BILL.

The American people want the Obama-Pelosi Theft Act of 2009 DEAD... A STAKE DRIVEN THROUGH ITS EVIL HEART! Tell them - to borrow a phrase from former First Lady Nancy Reagan - they just need to say "NO" and stop this liberal boondoggle!


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Is It Perhaps Best To Do Nothing?

</CENTER> Let's be frank! We've already tried recklessly throwing taxpayer money at our problems to the tune of $700 billion. IT HASN'T WORKED!

Job losses continue. Foreclosures continue. Credit is still tight!

And now we're supposed to believe that spending MORE MONEY (money we don't have) to fund liberal causes and pet projects WILL work?

Glenn Beck with FOX News said it best:

"So, the question is, when will America finally say, 'You know, I think Ive learned my lesson. Enough is enough?'"

Senator Richard Shelby told CNBC that Washington should just "shelve the stimulus package."

Even economist Martin Feldstein, who initially supported a "stimulus plan" is singing a different tune and wrote in The Washington Post:

"It would be better for the Senate to delay legislation for a month, or even two... . We cannot afford an $800 billion mistake."

Admittedly, people are suffering under the strain of this economic downturn.

But history teaches us that government meddling may only extend what could be short term misery!

Former President Ronald Reagan cautioned us that "government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem."

George Will, in a recent column titled "Same Old New Deal?" echoes those sentiments and insinuates that the New Deal turned a short-term recession into the Great Depression which lasted more than a decade!

"The assumption is that the New Deal vanquished the Depression. Intelligent, informed people differ about why the Depression lasted so long. But people whose recipe for recovery today is another New Deal should remember that America's biggest industrial collapse occurred in 1937, eight years after the 1929 stock market crash and nearly five years into the New Deal. "

We don't need compromises! We don't need fixes! We don't need alternative plans that will move America towards SOCIALISM!

Demand that our elected officials stand firm and KILL the Obama-Pelosi Theft Act of 2009!

Do it NOW!

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Tell them in no uncertain terms that the American people DON'T want them to "tinker" with this evil bill or to try to "fix" it. The American people do not want any "compromises" or "amendments" or ANY AMOUNT OF LIPSTICK PUT ON THIS PIG OF A BILL.

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I can't believe all you guys everyday bitching and whining about the stimulus in a fucking forum. Stop crying in here and go out there and make a difference!

Like Roadreeler.....
Coming from you Scotty L thats a compliment...Thanks
 

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Although I confess ignorance in most economic principals, I am educated enough to know that most persons calling themselves economist are the same as I.

However there seems to be one sure way to tell if a economic theory has merit, The more conservatives saying that it is wrong, the better chance it stands of being right.

you don't even need to be an economist to know that spending money you don't have on shit you don't need to solve a problem that is out of your reach is lunacy.

Even Biden (doing his Yogi Berra impersonation) said if they get everything right there is still a 30% chance it will fail. Would you get on a ship with no life preservers and no lifeboats if the co-captain told you there was a 30% chance it was going to sink?
 
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This economic recovery plan is nothing but the government creating a phony economy. It's a facade and all of the benefits the government is saying it will bring will be temporary and will eventually evaporate. Japan did this for 15 years before realizing it just doesn't work.
Bingo!
 

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My man, when it comes to chaging the world you are at the forefront!

See, i disagree Scotty. I always thought of Roadie as a bottom myself. I bet he is rather cavernous.
 

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A lot of the money is going to be spent on a 100 foot high wall which runs the full length of southern texas.

It's all good. Keynes said employing one set of folks to dig holes and another to fill them was a worthwhile stimulus to a crippled economy.

Can't wait until they wall the Northern border. Then the tourists that visit my community to whale watch and see the sea lions on boating trips will also be able to go and look at the wall that keeps the rabble in.
 

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It's all good. Keynes said employing one set of folks to dig holes and another to fill them was a worthwhile stimulus to a crippled economy.

Can't wait until they wall the Northern border. Then the tourists that visit my community to whale watch and see the sea lions on boating trips will also be able to go and look at the wall that keeps the rabble in.

Whale watching and Sea lions or

Strippers, temperate climates, Citys, good food, good shopping, cars, better healthcare, better schools, black people, guns, strippers, better jobs, better sports, the list goes on and on.

So ill sum it up like this....

Its fucking Canada.
 

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