Bill, I only meant for those who are here, not those who will come. Unless the entire lot of current posters were banned, someone would speak up I would hope. Again, not out of being an asshole but injecting reality into any such topic. The issue here is not whether someone got something wrong, the issue is the process of using one's credibility as a marketing tool, and that can succeed only as far as one total failure, which panam is seemingly reaching to be. Thereafter, at least for those who are aware of these facts, the Shrink's credibility can no longer be used that way, unless of course your surmisal is correct. No harm in him recommending books, but a blanket personal statement will have no weight.