Honestly, I think further moves (in Europe at least) to globalization are going to lead to a greater and greater backlash and the resurgence of xenophobic states. I think we will see a far right party come to power in a major European country within the next five years. My money is on Italy, their politics have been a disaster since 1994 and there is growing support for the extreme right parties there.
Secondly let's look at your points.
1. It's safe to say FDR antagonized the Japanese, but that's all that has been proven.
2. JFK- 45 years later and no proof. Most of us think something is fishy, but no proof.
3. The Japanese tried to surrender with conditions. We wanted unconditional surrender. Big difference. Sadly more people lost their lives while the politicos discussed this.
3.The Maine - The sinking of the Maine on 15 February 1898 precipitated the Spanish-American War and also popularized the phrase Remember the Maine, to Hell with Spain! In subsequent years, the cause of the sinking of the Maine became the subject of much speculation. The cause of the explosion that sank the ship remains an unsolved mystery.
4.The Gulf ofTonkin incident has been proven to have been staged - agreed.
5. Vague at best.
6. see 5.
7. not a conspiracy theory, but a common sense fact. The government gave our boys cigs to calm their nerves during wartime.
8. flouride - Guidance is particularly needed because fluoride is found in all natural waters at some concentration. Low concentrations are good for teeth, but excessive concentrations can lead to debilitating disease, such as skeletal fluorosis, which has devastated some communities. In China alone, more than 10 million people are estimated to suffer from skeletal fluorosis.
9. see 5.
10. see 5.
11.not true
12.trace elements of bad stuff are found in most things we eat and drink.
13. anti-terrorist legislation happens from time to time.
Whether the Administration could have anticipated 9/11 or not, the proponents of the USAPA were waiting to go long before that day. Similar antiterrorism legislation was enacted in the 1996 Antiterrorism Act, which however did little to prevent the events of 9/11, and many provisions had either been declared unconstitutional or were about to be repealed when 9/11 occurred.
14.Most in our gov't believed Saddam had wmd's and the American public wanted someone to pay for 9/11.
http://www.davidstuff.com/political/wmdquotes.htm
15. Amero - Conspiracy theorists contend that the governments of the United States, Canada, and Mexico are already taking steps to implement such a currency.<sup id="cite_ref-TACiht_0-2" class="reference">[1]</sup> No current members of any country's government have officially stated a desire to implement a "North American Union."<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference">[3]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">[4]
</sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">16. </sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">Laughable</sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">. </sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">see 5</sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">
</sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">17.</sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"> </sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">Laughable. see 5</sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">
18. Laughable. see 5
19. Laughable. see 5
20. Laughable. see 5
Now let me give you one. It is well documented that the government lied (alleged meth lab) to obtain the warrant to attack the Branch Davidian compound in Waco. Texas Air National Guard helicopters were used in the raid. Our military can only be used against us in a very limited set of circumstances. Drug interdiction is one of the exceptions. No drugs were ever found. Fact.
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Hey dipshit, you failed to debunk Operation Gladio where American intelligence blew up civilians in Italy to blame on communists.
No wonder...
Ex-Italian President: Intel Agencies Know 9/11 An Inside Job
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2007/120407_common_knowledge.htm
No wonder...
Ex-Italian President: Intel Agencies Know 9/11 An Inside Job
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2007/120407_common_knowledge.htm
While your at it debunk this one too
Alleged Hijackers May Have Trained at U.S. Bases
The Pentagon has turned over military records on five men to the FBI
By George Wehrfritz, Catharine Skipp and John Barry
NEWSWEEK
Sept. 15 — U.S. military sources have given the FBI information that suggests five of the alleged hijackers of the planes that were used in Tuesday’s terror attacks received training at secure U.S. military installations in the 1990s.
THREE OF THE alleged hijackers listed their address on drivers licenses and car registrations as the Naval Air Station in Pensacola, Fla.—known as the “Cradle of U.S. Navy Aviation,” according to a high-ranking U.S. Navy source.
Another of the alleged hijackers may have been trained in strategy and tactics at the Air War College in Montgomery, Ala., said another high-ranking Pentagon official. The fifth man may have received language instruction at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Tex. Both were former Saudi Air Force pilots who had come to the United States, according to the Pentagon source.
But there are slight discrepancies between the military training records and the official FBI list of suspected hijackers—either in the spellings of their names or with their birthdates. One military source said it is possible that the hijackers may have stolen the identities of the foreign nationals who studied at the U.S. installations.
The five men were on a list of 19 people identified as hijackers by the FBI on Friday. The three foreign nationals training in Pensacola appear to be Saeed Alghamdi and Ahmad Alnami, who were among the four men who allegedly commandeered United Airlines Flight 93. That flight crashed into rural Pennsylvania. The third man who may have trained in Pensacola, Ahmed Alghamdi, allegedly helped highjack United Airlines Flight 75, which hit the south tower of the World Trade Center.
Military records show that the three used as their address 10 Radford Boulevard, a base roadway on which residences for foreign-military flight trainees are located. In March 1997, Saeed Alghamdi listed the address to register a 1998 Oldsmobile; five months later he used it again to register a second vehicle, a late model Buick. Drivers licenses thought to have been issued to the other two suspects in 1996 and 1998 list the barracks as their residences.
NEWSWEEK visited the base early Saturday morning, where military police confirmed that the address housed foreign military flight trainees but denied access past front barricades. Officials at the base confirmed that the FBI is investigating the three students.
It is not unusual for foreign nationals to train at U.S. military facilities. A former Navy pilot told NEWSWEEK that during his years on the base, “we always, always, always trained other countries’ pilots. When I was there two decades ago, it was Iranians. The shah was in power. Whoever the country du jour is, that’s whose pilots we train.”
Candidates begin with “an officer’s equivalent of boot camp,” he said. “Then they would put them through flight training.” The U.S. has a long-standing agreement with Saudi Arabia—a key ally in the 1990-91 gulf war—to train pilots for its National Guard. Candidates are trained in air combat on several Army and Navy bases. Training is paid for by Saudi Arabia.
Alleged Hijackers May Have Trained at U.S. Bases
The Pentagon has turned over military records on five men to the FBI
By George Wehrfritz, Catharine Skipp and John Barry
NEWSWEEK
Sept. 15 — U.S. military sources have given the FBI information that suggests five of the alleged hijackers of the planes that were used in Tuesday’s terror attacks received training at secure U.S. military installations in the 1990s.
THREE OF THE alleged hijackers listed their address on drivers licenses and car registrations as the Naval Air Station in Pensacola, Fla.—known as the “Cradle of U.S. Navy Aviation,” according to a high-ranking U.S. Navy source.
Another of the alleged hijackers may have been trained in strategy and tactics at the Air War College in Montgomery, Ala., said another high-ranking Pentagon official. The fifth man may have received language instruction at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Tex. Both were former Saudi Air Force pilots who had come to the United States, according to the Pentagon source.
But there are slight discrepancies between the military training records and the official FBI list of suspected hijackers—either in the spellings of their names or with their birthdates. One military source said it is possible that the hijackers may have stolen the identities of the foreign nationals who studied at the U.S. installations.
The five men were on a list of 19 people identified as hijackers by the FBI on Friday. The three foreign nationals training in Pensacola appear to be Saeed Alghamdi and Ahmad Alnami, who were among the four men who allegedly commandeered United Airlines Flight 93. That flight crashed into rural Pennsylvania. The third man who may have trained in Pensacola, Ahmed Alghamdi, allegedly helped highjack United Airlines Flight 75, which hit the south tower of the World Trade Center.
Military records show that the three used as their address 10 Radford Boulevard, a base roadway on which residences for foreign-military flight trainees are located. In March 1997, Saeed Alghamdi listed the address to register a 1998 Oldsmobile; five months later he used it again to register a second vehicle, a late model Buick. Drivers licenses thought to have been issued to the other two suspects in 1996 and 1998 list the barracks as their residences.
NEWSWEEK visited the base early Saturday morning, where military police confirmed that the address housed foreign military flight trainees but denied access past front barricades. Officials at the base confirmed that the FBI is investigating the three students.
It is not unusual for foreign nationals to train at U.S. military facilities. A former Navy pilot told NEWSWEEK that during his years on the base, “we always, always, always trained other countries’ pilots. When I was there two decades ago, it was Iranians. The shah was in power. Whoever the country du jour is, that’s whose pilots we train.”
Candidates begin with “an officer’s equivalent of boot camp,” he said. “Then they would put them through flight training.” The U.S. has a long-standing agreement with Saudi Arabia—a key ally in the 1990-91 gulf war—to train pilots for its National Guard. Candidates are trained in air combat on several Army and Navy bases. Training is paid for by Saudi Arabia.
CIA admitted Osama Bin Laden an "intelligence asset".
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1380935
Pubguy, this is the real Osama Bin Laden admitting he did 9/11, right? Is this YOUR proof? :nohead:
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1380935
Pubguy, this is the real Osama Bin Laden admitting he did 9/11, right? Is this YOUR proof? :nohead:
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No wonder... Ex-Italian President: Intel Agencies Know 9/11 An Inside Job [URL said:
This one took five minutes to unravel.
"In Brief: This claim is based on a story published in an Italian newspaper Corriere Della Sera. But has the former Italian president really joined the truth movement? Not according to this translation:
“As I’ve been told, tomorrow or the day after tomorrow (interview appeared on 30 november 07) the most important chain of newspaper of our country should give the proof, with an exceptional scoop, that the video (which in reality is an audio tape, NdR) in which appear Osama, leader of “the great and powerful movement of islamic revenge Al Quaeda” - God bless him! - and in which are formulated threats to our ex president Berlusconi, is nothing more than a fake realized inside Mediaset studios (the huge television group owned by Berlusconi) in Milan and sent to arabic television Al Jazeera.
The trap was organized to create solidarity for Berlusconi, which is having lot of problem related for the tangle between RAI and Mediaset. From sources near to Palazzo Chigi, the nevralgic center of italian intelligence, we know that the video is fake because Osama admits that he was the mind behind the attacks against the twin towers, while all the democratic parties in Europe and USA know very well that the attack was organised by CIA and Mossad, whit the help of sionistic world, just to accuse arab countries and induce occident to intervein both in Iraq and Afghanistan. This is why nobody in parlament gave solidarity to Berlusconi, which is the author of the fake video" "
The trap was organized to create solidarity for Berlusconi, which is having lot of problem related for the tangle between RAI and Mediaset. From sources near to Palazzo Chigi, the nevralgic center of italian intelligence, we know that the video is fake because Osama admits that he was the mind behind the attacks against the twin towers, while all the democratic parties in Europe and USA know very well that the attack was organised by CIA and Mossad, whit the help of sionistic world, just to accuse arab countries and induce occident to intervein both in Iraq and Afghanistan. This is why nobody in parlament gave solidarity to Berlusconi, which is the author of the fake video" "
It's apparent that Cossiga was being sarcastic about the perceived tendency of the fevered Italian Left to blame everything on Berlusconi, Americans and so-called "Zionist" bogeymen.
But, Cossiga himself admits he is not a conspiracy theorist, see this article published in the Italian newspaper La Stampa.
He affirms, "I refuse the conspiracy theory, which is a smart and sometimes sincere contrafaction of reality caused by the fear of that (reality)".
And also: "Rembering how "open" american society is, I think it's very unlikely, I may say impossible, that 9/11 was an inside job".
The conclusions are apparent and obvious:
(1) Francesco Cossiga has a sense of humor
(2) He like ourselves, enjoys taking pokes at unhinged, nutbar conspiracy cranks
(3) Francesco Cossiga by his own empathic admission, definitely does not believe 9/11 was that tiresome cliche, "an inside job"
(4) The hoax peddled by the Alex Jones front [site] is a deliberate, Yellow Journalistic, sensationalistic, Tabloid fabrication
(5) Truther cultists are daft, lack a sense of humor; are ignorant and have no idea when they are being sent up, scorned, ridiculed and mocked
(6) Ignorant conspiracy devotees frequently poleaxe themselves by not fact-checking and posting articles which, far from supporting their crazy conspiracy schemes, make fun of or, completely demolish their irrational fantasies
In short, "hoax busted!" and another conspiracy fabrication bites the dust.
Nuked! haha, try again.
Nuked! haha, try again.
An Alex Jones hit-piece based on a totally bogus translation? Nice try.
That is just as lame as the Popular Mechanics article. Any moron can spin anything any way they want, and fools like you buy into it, time after time after time after time.
Like I said, you probably think that is the real Osama Bin Laden admitting to 9/11. Why the need for the fake video tape? The government has NO EVIDENCE it was "Al-Qeuda" (which itself is a proven CIA creation) so they MAKE A FAKE VIDEO.
Your conspiracy theory that it was Bin Laden has as much validity as Snow White and the Seven Dwarves.
That is just as lame as the Popular Mechanics article. Any moron can spin anything any way they want, and fools like you buy into it, time after time after time after time.
Like I said, you probably think that is the real Osama Bin Laden admitting to 9/11. Why the need for the fake video tape? The government has NO EVIDENCE it was "Al-Qeuda" (which itself is a proven CIA creation) so they MAKE A FAKE VIDEO.
Your conspiracy theory that it was Bin Laden has as much validity as Snow White and the Seven Dwarves.
Why isn't 9/11 listed as one of his crimes on the FBI website? Because the FBI has ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE WHAT-SO-EVER THAT HE DID IT. Oh, wait, I forgot about your fake video tape.
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm
This is a fine example of how you nutjobs think. First of all, you posted the video and then attribute it to me and call it fake. My main point here is that you look at the FBI website listing of Bin Laden and can't take it at face value. There is a list of alleged crimes, yet you see the lack of "WTC bombing" for him as supporting your conspiracy theory. The absence of something doesn't prove a conspiracy. The absence of something allows nutjobs to make up whatever story they want to explain it.
