The Worst Vice-Presidential Nominee in U.S. History.

[Willie99]

Palin vs. Biden in Foreign Affairs experience. You would go with the mayor, I suppose?

well, Biden wanted to divide iraq into three countries and Biden opposed the surge, so I can't pretend to be in love with him.

However, Biden should have more first hand knowledge of foreign affairs. Just like McCain has more than Obama.

I forgot to mention, she also has a son going to Iraq, just like McCain.

 

[DeathEatsaCracker]

well, Biden wanted to divide iraq into three countries and Biden opposed the surge, so I can't pretend to be in love with him.

However, Biden should have more first hand knowledge of foreign affairs. Just like McCain has more than Obama.

I forgot to mention, she also has a son going to Iraq, just like McCain.

And Biden.

 

[BetIt]

I don't think polls are indicators of where campaigns are. Rather I look at the actual actions of the campaigns. Palin may work out but even the biggest fan has to admit it was a risk. A huge risk.

There were people on this board who weeks prior to the dem convention stated Obama was toast.

Question to those

If the McCain campaign really thought Obama was fading and was toast why on earth the need for a gamble? Why not play it safe
McCain's campaign obviously saw if the dynamics did not change they were toast and theyy attempted to change it.

Even the biggest fans should see this.

This post is in no way a judge of poor or bad choice...but it's risky...and only those needing a change/trailing take this risk 60 days out.

 

[Mistermj]

Yawn.

Funny, now isn't it, how her inexperience is such a major issue,
but Obama's totally empty political record isn't?

Such blatant hypocrisy.

The trap has been set...this is a perfect example of how it goes down.

Attacking Palin uses the Lib agenda against their own man.

Obama has NO experience...none.

He has never run anything.

McCain is freakin brilliant!

The best sucker punch in modern political history. :aktion033

 

[D2bets]

Is Sarah Palin going to do daily town halls? Somehow I doubt it. I guarantee you they will allow Sarah Palin to talk outside of scripted speeches the very least amount humanly possible. THey will make sure she has to answer as few questions as possible. Let's see when she does an interview? Hopefully she will be going on Meet The Press. Not the same without Russert, but still a grill. Will she appear?

 

[cutacrossshorty]

95% of them didnt even know who he was before the election.

This is perhaps one of the most ignorant statements I've ever read. His victorious bid for the Senate in 2004 was one the most high profile elections on the national scene and he was the keynote speaker at the 2004 Democratic national convention. It's ludicrous to suggest that a high percentge (let alone 95%) heard of him for the first time in the this election.

 

[D2bets]

This is perhaps one of the most ignorant statements I've ever read. His victorious bid for the Senate in 2004 was one the most high profile elections on the national scene and he was the keynote speaker at the 2004 Democratic national convention. It's ludicrous to suggest that a high percentge (let alone 95%) heard of him for the first time in the this election.

The truth is somewhere in between. He was somewhat well known but not to the extent of Hillary or McCain.

 

[BetIt]

The trap has been set...this is a perfect example of how it goes down.

Attacking Palin uses the Lib agenda against their own man.

Obama has NO experience...none.

He has never run anything.

McCain is freakin brilliant!

The best sucker punch in modern political history. :aktion033

I believe you were one of the "it's over..obama is toast" about 2 weeks ago.

Why the need for the risk?

Wh not play it safe?

 

[cutacrossshorty]

The truth is somewhere in between. He was somewhat well known but not to the extent of Hillary or McCain.

The true number is probably around 20-25% (give or take 10%). To say 95% is ignorant.

 

[eek.]

The Worst Vice-Presidential Nominee in U.S. History.

Nobody, but nobody, could be worse than Dan Quayle.

Nobody.

 

[eek.]

The Dems are playing the race card and the Repubs are playing the gender card.

shocker

hno:

 

[Mistermj]

I believe you were one of the "it's over..obama is toast" about 2 weeks ago.

Why the need for the risk?

Wh not play it safe?

For the same reason prevent defense is retarded.

Playing not to lose is a sure way to lose.

Go for the jugular...and don't stop.

 

[Willie99]

This is perhaps one of the most ignorant statements I've ever read. His victorious bid for the Senate in 2004 was one the most high profile elections on the national scene and he was the keynote speaker at the 2004 Democratic national convention. It's ludicrous to suggest that a high percentge (let alone 95%) heard of him for the first time in the this election.

His Senate bid was essentially uncontested, what the fuck are you talking about, high profile?

You're right about one thing, he gave a great speech at the 2004 Democratic convention. The bad part is that's his entire resume.

considering most Americans can't name their own Senator (has this changed?), I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest nobody heard of him before he started to run for President.

 

[Willie99]

Is Sarah Palin going to do daily town halls? Somehow I doubt it. I guarantee you they will allow Sarah Palin to talk outside of scripted speeches the very least amount humanly possible. THey will make sure she has to answer as few questions as possible. Let's see when she does an interview? Hopefully she will be going on Meet The Press. Not the same without Russert, but still a grill. Will she appear?

Have you seen BO without a prompter? She can't be any worse.

 

[BetIt]

For the same reason prevent defense is retarded.

Playing not to lose is a sure way to lose.

Go for the jugular...and don't stop.

From the same group of people that chose Cheney....come on?

I'm not judging the move cause it may end up being a good one but this is one dictates it's from the group that doesn't feel great about it's chances beforehand and needs a changer.

 

[Willie99]

I don't think polls are indicators of where campaigns are. Rather I look at the actual actions of the campaigns. Palin may work out but even the biggest fan has to admit it was a risk. A huge risk.

There were people on this board who weeks prior to the dem convention stated Obama was toast.

Question to those

If the McCain campaign really thought Obama was fading and was toast why on earth the need for a gamble? Why not play it safe
McCain's campaign obviously saw if the dynamics did not change they were toast and theyy attempted to change it.

Even the biggest fans should see this.

This post is in no way a judge of poor or bad choice...but it's risky...and only those needing a change/trailing take this risk 60 days out.

Why is it risky? because some political pundit said so? because you and I don't know her?

I suppose McCain and his people know where she stands, have seen her in action, love her policy positions and love the dynamics she brings to the table. If they have the VP candidate they want, what makes that risky?

I'm sure they thought about how voters would react, and they like that to.

Suffice to say, I don't agree with the premise of your argument, and I don't agree with how you framed it either.

 

[Mistermj]

From the same group of people that chose Cheney....come on?

I'm not judging the move cause it may end up being a good one but this is one dictates it's from the group that doesn't feel great about it's chances beforehand and needs a changer.

Why say that?

Whats wrong with Cheney?

 

[D2bets]

Why is it risky? because some political pundit said so? because you and I don't know her?

I suppose McCain and his people know where she stands, have seen her in action, love her policy positions and love the dynamics she brings to the table. If they have the VP candidate they want, what makes that risky?

I'm sure they thought about how voters would react, and they like that to.

Suffice to say, I don't agree with the premise of your argument, and I don't agree with how you framed it either.

It's risky because he didn't know her from me 3 months ago and met her exactly once before this week, not to mention she has less than 2 years of real elected office experience (sorry the PTA and mayor of podunk doesn't count) and has never publicly expressed a single opinion or thought on the most important issues facing America (national security -- according to McCain). That's risky.

 

[Willie99]

It's risky because he didn't know her from me 3 months ago and met her exactly once before this week, not to mention she has less than 2 years of real elected office experience (sorry the PTA and mayor of podunk doesn't count) and has never publicly expressed a single opinion or thought on the most important issues facing America (national security -- according to McCain). That's risky.

She's vetted, the POTUS needs to know how to appoint outstanding and trusted advisers.

Again, it's easy to counter anything about any experience the Democrats try to throw at her, and the Democrats have to be careful not to piss of the ladies.

It is a brilliant pick. We'll just have to let time do it's thing.

 

[cutacrossshorty]

His Senate bid was essentially uncontested, what the fuck are you talking about, high profile?

It's regrettable that what I said is over your head. What I'm saying and what should've been obvious is that his Senate bid received more national media exposure than just about any other. He had multiple oppenents and there were debates, etc. He won big and it was covered nationally.

You're right about one thing, he gave a great speech at the 2004 Democratic convention. The bad part is that's his entire resume.

The point is, it was watched by a high percentage of people that georgejeffeson or whalewager or whatever he calls himself claims never heard of him before this election. Your point about his resume is irrelevent to whether anyone ever heard of him before.

considering most Americans can't name their own Senator (has this changed?), I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest nobody heard of him before he started to run for President.

I would contest the notion that most Americans that vote can't name their own Senator. However, I wouldn't be surprised that the 40% of the voting eligible public that never votes wouldn't know such a thing. In this case, I think it's assumed were not including those that never vote in the percentages.

I'll bet anything that you heard of him before the election.