The world according to Me-anstreak ...

UncleMoneybags · Apr 28, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>You are all born free individuals, capable of making life altering decisions based solely on personal preference and desire. The only thing preventing you from realizing your true potential as a human being - that is to say, the only thing impeding your natural born freedom is that socially constructed institution called GOVERNMENT. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I somewhat agree with that. IMO if one of those life altering decisions is to murder someone then I'm sorry but you got to go.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> Another example - in this part of Canada there is a law that requires car owners to get am emissions test every two years "to ensure the integrity of the pollution controls of the car" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you think that is tough then go to Japan where most engines don't pass their 80,000 kilometer test. They end up putting a new engine in their car.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> You have laws in the States that prevent two same sexed human beings from marrying ? What the hell is that about ? Who is anybody to tell another human who they can and cannot 'legally' romantically associate with ? WHAT A JOKE !! What's more , if I am a homosexual I have to ask myself "Why do I need to permission of another to unite with the one I love ? " Me I would prefer to stay the hell out of the system ... which is exactly my personal philosphy ... at any chance I get I look to stay out of the system ... I don't file tax returns, I don't pay fines and I don't follow laws I don't agree with ... in short I don't respect any authority which aims to limit my pursuit of personal happiness. I smoke pot because I like it. I speed on open highways because I like the thrill. My parents allowed me to drink wine at the dinner table before I was so-called "legal". I also drove an automobile before the "legal" age as well. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Marriage and romantically associating with someone are 2 different things. If half the bull dykes with whom I speak would accept the civil unions instead of pushing for a full marriage because it's equal protection it might lessen the opposition. Key word is might. 2 women marrying and one of each sex are not the same thing.

You have yet to see major trouble, kid. I can only hope that you see the light before it's too late. Not filing tax returns is risky. I can't speak for the Canadian system but the American system will eat you alive. A good friend of mine who happens to be retired took 17 years to pay all the back taxes, penalties and interest that he owed to the IRS. Since you don't pay taxes can I assume that you don't patronize any of the various social services that are offered in Canada?

You may like to drink wine and smoke pot but if you speed and run someone down you've got problems.

Even freedom has it's limits. You seem to be more of an anarchist. I can admire that assuming you are a true anarchist. I would consider myself a neo-anarchist if I could trust that others would act responsibly.

You have a utopian perspective. Unfortuneately, that won't get you very far in a place like prison. We've all heard the stories but imagine getting confined for conspiracy and after your 2 years you need depends because they just wore you out. It's a sad story that I hope no one else endures. I don't expect you to change but at the same time I hope you keep this at the back of your mind.

DarrylParsons · Apr 28, 2004

The trouble with anarchy is that it usually doesn't last. There are lots of power hungry people out there who will see an opportunity and go to great lengths to try to seize power. Civil unrest, civil war, these are the usual by-products of anarchy.

Of course you could try to convince those power m0ngers to adopt your philosophy, but you would have a greater chance of success explaining the joys of being vegetarian to a hungry tiger.

Those philosophies of the world which assume people are as they are are easier to take seriously than those which assume people can be made to be what you want them to be.

UncleMoneybags · Apr 28, 2004

It would probably take the better part of a day to completely explain my beliefs to you, Darryl, so that's why I say neo-anarchist. You can partially mold your opinion from things I have said in the past. I don't consider myself to be in the same class as that young man. He doesn't purvey much experience living in this world. If he is older than 20, he is being coddled by mommy and daddy.

Meanstreak · Apr 28, 2004

I wish I could attribute the observation to the proper person, but there is a psychologist that made the insight "People rarely see the world as it is, they see it as they ARE". When people go out of their way to make value judgements about others (ie. coddled by mommy, small man big pants, moron etc.) they are saying more about themselves than the person they are observing.

Call me what you will, give me any label which makes you feel good about yourself BUT it will never deter my beliefs. You don;t have to agree with anything I say, that makes you neither better or worse than me, just different. A difference I am willing to accept provided you keep to yourself and leave me alone to pursue my idea of a happy existence.

I happen to be a father of a nine month old girl ... whom I have no intentions of sending to the meat grinder education system that produces masses of lemming producer/consumer haters. I will go to great lengths to show my child that there isplenty of room on this planet for differing opinions and visions of the world. Above all I will teach her the same lessons I internlaized growing up ... love thy neighbour, treat others as you wish to be treated, respect life and do no harm. Simple rules really, that more times tan not get pushed aside in todays sick pursuit of excessive material wealth and harmful power.

There is nothing particularly special about me. Although my IQ suggests I have a higher aptitude than 80% of the population I realize I am but one man of 8 billion on this planet. I have made a lifestyle for myslef that allows me to be more philosophical about life than 99% of you and that is mainly because I realize that 99% of life is an illusion perpetrated on the masses by a very few power hungry groups of individuals.

Long ago I realized that my opinions and beliefs are not and will not be held by anywhere near a majority of people. I have long since given up trying to convince anyone I am 'right'. I simply am who I am. My observations are simply that ... the way I see and live my life life.

People are always looking for a way to differentiate themselves and marginalze others. Whether it be by class, race, religion, ethnicity whatever .... these are arbitrary differences given import by those seeking to put you down.

As I have stated many times before, people should really consider turning off their televiosn and getting to know the community and the people therein. Learn what is truly necessary and important in this life. Live it to the fullest and die having done no harm.

If I can do it - ANYONE can.

Peace.

DarrylParsons · Apr 29, 2004

Uncle M,

Your vision of things does seem more mature than MS's and my post was maybe only 20% in response to yours and 80% in response to his. The neo-anarchy concept sounds appealing and if you don't mind I'd like to try to understand how you mean this?

My vision sees evolutionary forces as the most powerful and assumes people are best off not trying to resist these. I believe strength, intelligence, wisdom, good health and respectful behavior are positive things and it is good if humans evolve in a direction in which these are enhanced. Luckily, observations suggest that this is very likely since cute women tend to be attracted to men with these qualities. The exception might be respectful behavior, but if this behavior is followed by an effective tit-for-tat strategy (ie. co-operate first, then respond to your opponent's last move thereafter - click here for more info.) then the woman will stay horny.

Western society, unfortunately, is encouraging humans to evolve towards mediocrity. Democratic systems steal from the strong and successful and give to the weak and disadvantaged. This results in the strong having fewer children and the weak having more.

Thus my opinion is that present society structures should be dismantled. If that is successful it is hard to imagine what will come next, but whatever it is it will be probably not work against evolutionary forces to the extent that today's society does and, therefore, will be better in any case.

This is my view in a nutshell. Is yours similar?

UncleMoneybags · Apr 29, 2004

Meanstreak,

The way you say you act suggests you have to this point avoided trouble. Your lifestyle runs contrary to some of the laws that I know Canada has. Your beliefs are irrelevant. If the Canadian authorities want to imprison you because of your actions, they'll do so. Your rhetoric might sound good on paper but proves useless in the real world.

When I say you were coddled by mommy and daddy, it may not be the truth but imo it is the most likely scenario out of 4 possible.

1. Coddled by mommy and daddy
2. You live a hermitic existence
3. You're just bull$hittin' us
4. You're extremely lucky not to have been caught

If it makes you feel better to think that I'm coddled, go right ahead. I'm merely stating my opinion as to the practicality of your system. You mentioned your high IQ but I think the only thing IQ tests measure is the so-called lemming status not actual intellectual capabilities. Hell, I trained my dog to recognize his name by putting it next to his dish. Maybe his aptitude is higher than 80% of the population?

Meanstreak · Apr 29, 2004

UncleM,

Since you have taken such a keen interest in my life choices perhaps I should set a couple of things straight.

For the record, I stated that I avoid participating in the system whenever possible. One of those manifestations happen to be avoiding filing tax returns. Avoiding filing does not mean to suggest I avoid payment, penalties, interest charges etc. It is merely my (albeit immature) way of protesting the illegitimacy and injustice of the tax system. The system's machine is far too effective to allow me to totally slip through ... it took them 8 years but they did catch up to me. So they get their money, but they don't get my signature on any documents acknowledging their legitimacy.

So what is the point you ask ? The point is principle. The way I see it, why should I make it easy on them ? Yes I end up losing in the end, but I sleep better at night knowing I have done all I can, personally, to tell the 'man' I have no desire to participate.

The point I try to make is that if everybody got together and revolted against the tax system then effective change could be brought about. As I cannot force anyone to join me I just blaze the trail and hope others follow.

Any chance I get - I try to explain to people how 'free' they really are not. I simply try to show people that just because things are the way they are THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE.

As I stated earlier, I am under no delusions - I will forever get the short end of the stick and be kept under the thumb of the government - but it does not mean I have to like it.

Some may call it immature, I simply describe it as 'enlightened'. Anarchy is my first choice of a model for society ... and I will continue to preach the benefits of it until I die.

So take solace in knowing you are smarter and more mature than I for totally aquiescing to the powers that be. Feel better about the society of ants you freely join in the march against personal freedom and responsibility. Keep participating in a democracy which continues to serve the priviledged at the expense of the average joe. Go on making value judgements about people you don't know. Go on thinking of your 'country' as the superior model for all to follow. Go on sanctioning war and violence on societies all over the globe. Go on complying with ridiculous laws that only serve to keep you from realizing your full potential for happiness and freedom. March on to the beat of the sytem's drum. Go ahead, just don't expect me to join you lockstep, alright ?

UncleMoneybags · Apr 29, 2004

Meanstreak,

If you don't want to acquiesce as you put it, fine. I'm merely putting other options out there for the people that might be seduced by your actions.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Anarchy is my first choice of a model for society ... and I will continue to preach the benefits of it until I die. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unfortunately, there aren't many useful benefits other than perpetual dysfunction.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> Feel better about the society of ants you freely join in the march against personal freedom and responsibility. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you have read any of my posts you would know that I stress that everyone take ownership of one's actions.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Go on making value judgements about people you don't know. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just exactly how long should I listen to you before I comment?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> Go on thinking of your 'country' as the superior model for all to follow. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I tend to play the devil's advocate when I'm talking to someone because it's the easiest way to see all sides of the issue. I am highly critical of this country. Where I work I often mention things that others don't want to discuss such as policing Iraq. While I support the Iraq action and halfway support the policing I don't think it should be done half-assed. I get into quite a few arguments about that. You ain't seen lemmings until you talk to them.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> Go on complying with ridiculous laws that only serve to keep you from realizing your full potential for happiness and freedom. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wasn't aware that I'm neither happy nor free. I don't equate being captive to a system with an ability to consume something that I have no desire to consume from a legal standpoint.

I'm heading out, Darryl. It seems that you posted just as I was typing up my response. I'll try to explain later.