damn Wolfie, making me work now
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Willie99
It increases costs, not deceases
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this would be obvious to me, you can't provide something that a lot of people don't have without putting $ into it
Obama and his supporters claim their proposals will decrease costs, but the CBO says otherwise
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It increases the deficit, not decreases
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same as above......but I didnt think the goal of this was to decrease the deficit so it would be irrelevant.
Obama and his supporters claim their proposals will reduce the deficit, but the CBO says it will increase the deficit significantly.
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The proposals in Congress evolve into single payer plans, and Obama has said he believes a single payer plan is best, but democrats deny such
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what is a 'single payer plan' , I tried to look it up but the results show up a huge amount of 'variations' of the same thing
although Obama says he doesn't want a single payer (read government) plan, he has espoused one repeatedly throughout his career. The impact of the proposals in the house will be to funnel us into a single player plan. There are many estimates and studies out there, but suffice to say 10s of millions of Americans will lose their existing coverage fairly quickly.
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The proposals implement care restrictions by design and by necessity, democrats deny it
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are these restrictions as to the coverage of the plan regarding specific conditions or a restriction to a coverage /year in terms of $?
to save costs, they have to implement restrictions, it's how socialized medicine works. It would also be consistent with Obama saying "we have too much healthcare, and it's bankrupting us". As for specifics, that's yet to be determined / released.
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The existing health care in the USA is excellent, but democrats trash it
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from the 'outside' the quality I am sure it is, as long as you are covered...my question is, what happens when you somehow lose your coverage? what can you do to prevent that? say that I end up in a job that doesn't have health care benefits? then WHAT exactly happens?
I imagine that I get sick>>>lose my job>>>> now what? I lost my job because of my illness....now I have no coverage.....who is going to insure me even if I want to pay? how much would it cost??
there are holes to be filled, I've said so on many an occasion, but I don't believe we need to dispose of a system which gives us health care on demand and which 80% of Americans are happy with. I'm thinking more along the lines of the OP.
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the overwhelming majority of Americans are happy with their existing health care services, but democrats misrepresent that fact
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I am sure that the majority is , however there is a sizable percentage that doesn't have any coverage.....and another one that for x,y,z reason end up travelling abroad to get it.....now WHY would you ......the citizen of the 'most powerful/awesome/incredible/second to none/blessed by God blabla' nation....have to travel to a 3rd world country to get certain treatments , what logic is there?
LOL, medical vacations, cheaper costs and procedures not approved in the states.
Kinda weak to try and justify Obamacare with that nonsense.
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at the end of the day, covering more people, reducing costs, limiting income and limiting profits are all incompatible with improving health care quality. To believe such is naive.
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I imagine that the ones that have no coverage now.......would prefer to have some coverage there by improving healthcare from non-existent to 'something' ?
got a hang nail? lets amputate your arm
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the polls clearly show Americans do not want the existing proposed plans, but democrats are in denial
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that appears to be quite true from the outside
Thanks in advance for any insight you can provide
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