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This is impossible talking to someone who doesnt even live out from under their mothers roof yet. Get a job, pay some bills and you will see how things work. I mean your trying to tell me that the fact that we have 24 states higher tax rates then any other country in the world is A-Ok? Your a fucking little kid. run along and play and the adults will call you in when its time to eat, after we prepare the meal... you little freeloading comic reader.


Too bad for you i am not as retarded as those dumb fvcking republican retards you always bully around. Mostly because they are too stupid to get into a debate and beat you back with simple logic and facts!

Once again in your feeble litte response that is still devoid of fact, still dodging the greater question and pathetically trying to change the subject to the issue of job exportation you still dont post any facts, evidence, proof on any logical argument!

You will not not beat me as easily as you have those idiot right wing wackos. I have a brain and i actually use it to make my points.

I will challenge you yet, for the 3rd time. Please post any proof you have that corporations export jobs with taxes as a primary concern.


Now to address your incredibly stupid argument about 24 states having taxes than japan or freakin timbuktu!

So fucking what? If the taxes were killing these companies why are they still based here?

Answer the focking question MR numbnuts!


But you wont will you. The truth is that those very same taxes have helped build the strongest economy in the entire world. The same economy that has supported and seen those companies grow from small businesses to international conglometrates!
That is the reason they stay you freaking moron! MICROSOFT GOOGLE, PFIZER, Comcast cable or Tmobile arent moving to japan or freaking mccains Ireland because they wouldnt even make a fraction of the profits they make here in any other economy! REGARDLESS OF THE FVCKING TAXES YOU DUMBASS IGNORAMUS! PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT BITCH!
 

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agreed.

It is simply amazing to me the state of affairs right now. I mean, think about it. The American people are about to elect a man who is an unapologetic socialist. He even says he will "spread the wealth around". He has virtually no experience. All he has done is serve a few years in the State Senate, give some rousing speeches and write two books about HIMSELF. Simply unreal.

How did we get here you ask?

Simple. Bush is a baffoon and Obama blames him for everything. Bush is worthy of criticism for sure but, Obama blames him for everything even when it is not warranted. This resonates with people since they feel the same way about Bush. Add to this that Obama is a black man and that his is an engaging speaker with charisma...sprinkle in a blantant media bais and...Whammo.

So, because of the hatred of Bush, white guilt and the notion that because a person is a good speaker, he will make a good President...we are about to elect this man. This man who is as far left as possible while still being an "American", has no experience and is about to inherit an absolute nightmare of an economy and a very dangerous situation in the world with respect to our national security.

We are in big, big trouble.

(For the record, I dont think McCain would be much better but, he would not overcompensate and take us to the edge of socialism the way Obama will).
It is funny how blind some people are..........They are terrified of Obama being a socialist yet the government elect (Republicans) we have now has been practicing socialism for years.Next time you get a stimulus package check from the government send it back with a note saying you do not accept this type of socialism.Some one PLEASE tell me how this socialistic government will happen and how things will change..........you seem to know already.:puke1:
 

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I mean your trying to tell me that the fact that we have 24 states higher tax rates then any other country in the world is A-Ok? Your a fucking little kid. run along and play and the adults will call you in when its time to eat, after we prepare the meal... you little freeloading comic reader.


You should really pick up a comic book or two. And get off that sheep porn you are addicted to.

If you didnt spend so much time watching humans abusing herbivores, you may take out time to answer this question..


If higher tax rates are so bad, why is it that those 24 states you mention have a better GDP than "practically" the rest of the world.


You have your head so far up your arse you dont even realize that you are spewing a revised version Mccain rant on how low tax rates in Ireland are. Problem is, just like that stupid old bastard, you dont bother to mention that Irelands economy has been a complete joke compared to ours in the last 200 years!!!!

But stupid people tend to think alike. Not too far beyond their noses, and they always get angry and red faced when forced to think!

Back to my piccolo comic after schooling this retard!
 

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Obama wants to take the money from the hard working Americans people and give it to the people who sit on the couch eating twinkles all day and night.

This not be good in my opinion! I say to that lazy flock, go to work and earn your own money. Fair is fair. This is what I think about this here issue!


:cripwalk::cripwalk::cripwalk::toast:
 

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Obama wants to take the money from the hard working Americans people and give it to the people who sit on the couch eating twinkles all day and night.

This not be good in my opinion! I say to that lazy flock, go to work and earn your own money. Fair is fair. This is what I think about this here issue!


:cripwalk::cripwalk::cripwalk::toast:

would you rather be robbed with a 9mm pointed at your head? or would you rather have your money bring up those people and have them living in a better standard which in turn would increase your quality of life
 

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would you rather be robbed with a 9mm pointed at your head? or would you rather have your money bring up those people and have them living in a better standard which in turn would increase your quality of life


Good point. I change my position on this here issue. Let the money trickle down to them their people so we can be safe. The Reagan trickle down program works for me. Thanks dawg for getting my head straight!

:dancefool:dancefool:dancefool:dancefool:dancefool:toast::103631605
 

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You should really pick up a comic book or two. And get off that sheep porn you are addicted to.

If you didnt spend so much time watching humans abusing herbivores, you may take out time to answer this question..


If higher tax rates are so bad, why is it that those 24 states you mention have a better GDP than "practically" the rest of the world.


You have your head so far up your arse you dont even realize that you are spewing a revised version Mccain rant on how low tax rates in Ireland are. Problem is, just like that stupid old bastard, you dont bother to mention that Irelands economy has been a complete joke compared to ours in the last 200 years!!!!

But stupid people tend to think alike. Not too far beyond their noses, and they always get angry and red faced when forced to think!

Back to my piccolo comic after schooling this retard!


Yawn. Nothing you say has any substance period. Nothing. I voted for Ron Paul and since he didnt get the nomination ill write him in. Your voting for socialism. There is no need to say anymore. Your stance is pretty clear. You have no idea what your talking about because your petty argument and Ireland have nothing to do with what im talking about. Nothing. Just so you know, this country has almost a trillion dollar annual trade deficit now. I think its about 800 billion. So, think about that the next time you go to read one of your comic books, slug. Less time reading comics and more time understand economics or dont say anything at all.
 

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Gap between rich and poor increases
http://www.euronews.net/en/article/21/10/2008/gap-between-rich-and-poor-increases/

I'm not in favor of taking from the rich and giving to lazy people that don't contribute anything to society. But there's no denying that the corporate structure is designed to make the rich richer and turn the worker bees into serfs. Management positions always pay more than other jobs that often take A LOT MORE SKILL than sitting around being an asshole doing whatever the fuck an asshole manager does. In my industry I often have to work my ass off for 60+ hours a week on a salary with no overtime while the management positions sit on their ass doing jack shit on the weekends. Paulson made 140 million his last year at Goldman Sachs. The system is corrupt, I don't necessarily agree with Democrats but I sure as hell don't agree with trickle down economics, either.
 

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what exactly is wrong with socialism.

thats what I dont get here.

socialism is used to end the class structure. so everyone can be happy and sad instead of only a segment of the population.

this is the revolt marx talked about in the communist manifesto.

the middle class gets tired of being taken advantage of by the upper class and revolts. there revolting by voting for obama to make sure the rich guys dont get all of the middle class guys money anymore.

middle class is tired of the top getting all the breaks. the overwhelming opposition to the bailout bill was a gut test that america is ready for socialism. anger, revolt, resentment towards the elite for the upper class getting the break at the middle class expense.
 
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It punishes the elite for being genetically superior to 99% of the rest of the herd.
 

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Yawn. Nothing you say has any substance period. Nothing. I voted for Ron Paul and since he didnt get the nomination ill write him in. Your voting for socialism. There is no need to say anymore. Your stance is pretty clear. You have no idea what your talking about because your petty argument and Ireland have nothing to do with what im talking about. Nothing. Just so you know, this country has almost a trillion dollar annual trade deficit now. I think its about 800 billion. So, think about that the next time you go to read one of your comic books, slug. Less time reading comics and more time understand economics or dont say anything at all.



hahahahahahahahah:nohead:


you are a one pathetic hell of joke. It is really obvious that i am beating you down with logic, facts and well constructed arguments none of which,you can even answer.

I mean not a single one of my arguments have you answered.

Instead you think calling me a comic book reader and living in the basement of my moms house a valid response that hides the truth.

You are a freaking idiot who has no clue as to what the hell is arguing. You are too stupid to defend the shit that is coming out of your mouth and so you post retorts that have zero substance.

i repeat.. get off that sheep porn, educate yourself and dont ruin Ron Pauls name by putting it in your mouth! His followers are no where near as stupid as you sound. (Though we now know that many buffoons like to call themselves ron paul followers so as to appear true academics when the truth indeed is that they are shit eating bastards too stupid to think their way out of a shit filled gunny sack!!!)
 

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For the record, most country's are dropping their taxes on corporations. I wonder why? They are lower then us, i wonder why that is so? And you feel this is no problem??

:lolBIG:

Our tax system is in need of major restructuring because we cant compete with our economic competitors around the world, and you continue to stick your head in the sand. Laughable. Dont bite the hand that feeds you. Business feeds you. Dont tax it. Taxation is unamerican despite what Joe Biden or anyone else says. Every time you tax someone your taking away freedom. Are you for less freedoms?Your an absolute fucking tool and total waste of time. Consider these last few days of interacting with you from me a gift to you. Hopefully you will learn.



Comparing U.S. State Corporate Taxes to the OECD<table border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="492"><tbody><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
OECD Overall Rank
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">
Country/State
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
Federal Rate Adjusted
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
Top State Corporate Tax Rate
</td><td valign="bottom" width="124">
Combined Federal and State Rate (Adjusted) (a)
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Iowa
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
12​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">41.6
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Pennsylvania
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
9.99​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">41.5
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Minnesota
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
9.8​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">41.4
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Massachusetts
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
9.5​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">41.2
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Alaska
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
9.4​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">41.1
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">New Jersey
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
9.36​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">41.1
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Rhode Island
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
9​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">40.9
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">West Virginia
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
9​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">40.9
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Maine
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
8.93​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">40.8
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Vermont
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
8.9​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">40.8
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">California
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
8.84​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">40.7
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Delaware
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
8.7​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">40.7
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Indiana
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
8.5​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">40.5
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">New Hampshire
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
8.5​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">40.5
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Wisconsin
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
7.9​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">40.1
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Nebraska
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
7.81​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">40.1
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Idaho
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
7.6​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">39.9
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">New Mexico
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
7.6​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">39.9
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Connecticut
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
7.5​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">39.9
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">New York
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
7.5​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">39.9
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Kansas
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
7.35​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">39.8
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Illinois
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
7.3​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">39.7
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Maryland
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
7​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">39.6
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">North Dakota
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
7​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">39.6
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
1​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Japan
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
30
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
11.56
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">39.54
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Arizona
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
6.968​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">39.5
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">North Carolina
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
6.9​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">39.5
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Montana
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
6.75​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">39.4
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Oregon
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
6.6​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">39.3
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
2​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">United States
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
6.57
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">39.27
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Arkansas
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
6.5​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">39.2
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Tennessee
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
6.5​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">39.2
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">*Washington
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
6.4​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">39.2
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Hawaii
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
6.4​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">39.2
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
3​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Germany
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
26.38
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
17.0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">38.9
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">*Michigan
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
6​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">38.9
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Georgia
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
6​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">38.9
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Kentucky
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
6​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">38.9
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Oklahoma
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
6​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">38.9
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Virginia
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
6​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">38.9
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Florida
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
5.5​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">38.6
</td></tr><tr><td> </td><td>Louisiana </td><td align="center"> 35</td><td align="center"> 8</td><td align="center"> 38.5</td></tr><tr><td> </td><td>Missouri</td><td align="center"> 35</td><td align="center"> 6.25</td><td align="center"> 38.4</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Ohio
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
5.1​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">38.3
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Mississippi
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
5​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">38.3
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">South Carolina
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
5​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">38.3
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Utah
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
5​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">38.3
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Colorado
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
4.63​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">38.0
</td></tr><tr><td> </td><td>Alabama</td><td align="center"> 35</td><td align="center"> 6.5</td><td align="center"> 37.8</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
4​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Canada
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
22.1
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
14
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">36.1
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">*Texas
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
1.6​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">36.0
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Nevada
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">35.0
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">South Dakota
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">35.0
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Wyoming
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
35​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0​
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">35.0
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
5​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">France
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
34.43
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">34.4
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
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</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Belgium
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
33.99
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">33.99
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
7​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Italy
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
33
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">33
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
8​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">New Zealand
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
33
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">33
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
9​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Spain
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
32.5
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">32.5
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
10​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Luxembourg
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
22.88
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
7.5
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">30.38
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
11​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Australia
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
30
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">30
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
12​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">United Kingdom
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
30
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">30
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
13​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Mexico
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
28
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">28
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
14​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Norway
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
28
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">28
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
15​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Sweden
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
28
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">28
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
16​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Korea
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
25
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
2.5
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">27.5
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
17​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Portugal
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
25
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
1.5
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">26.5
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
18​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Finland
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
26
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">26
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
19​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Netherlands
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
25.5
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">25.5
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
20​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Austria
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
25
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">25
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
21​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Denmark
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
25
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">25
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
22​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Greece
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
25
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">25
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
23​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Czech Republic
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
24
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">24
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
24​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Switzerland
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
8.50
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
14.64
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">21.32
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
25​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Hungary
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
20
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">20
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
26​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Turkey
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
20
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">20
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
27​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Poland
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
19
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">19
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
28​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Slovak Republic
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
19
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">19
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
29​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Iceland
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
18
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">18
</td></tr><tr><td valign="bottom" width="61">
30​
</td><td valign="bottom" width="142">Ireland
</td><td valign="bottom" width="79">
12.5
</td><td valign="bottom" width="86">
0
</td><td align="center" valign="bottom" width="124">12.5
</td></tr></tbody></table>
 

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Gap between rich and poor increases
http://www.euronews.net/en/article/21/10/2008/gap-between-rich-and-poor-increases/

I'm not in favor of taking from the rich and giving to lazy people that don't contribute anything to society. But there's no denying that the corporate structure is designed to make the rich richer and turn the worker bees into serfs. Management positions always pay more than other jobs that often take A LOT MORE SKILL than sitting around being an asshole doing whatever the fuck an asshole manager does. In my industry I often have to work my ass off for 60+ hours a week on a salary with no overtime while the management positions sit on their ass doing jack shit on the weekends. Paulson made 140 million his last year at Goldman Sachs. The system is corrupt, I don't necessarily agree with Democrats but I sure as hell don't agree with trickle down economics, either.


Im totally with you. The system is flawed, but more taxation isnt the answer. The problem lies in the corruption.
 

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Uh, corporations pay out their ass in taxes for their workforce in the US, where do you think unemployment benefits come from? On top of my salary the company is taxed another what, 15%? The government is taking a huge chunk from my hard earned money and on top of that they take even more from the corporation. I don't know about other countries but I assume the payroll tax is much less if not non-existant?
 

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what exactly is wrong with socialism.

thats what I dont get here.

socialism is used to end the class structure. so everyone can be happy and sad instead of only a segment of the population.

this is the revolt marx talked about in the communist manifesto.

the middle class gets tired of being taken advantage of by the upper class and revolts. there revolting by voting for obama to make sure the rich guys dont get all of the middle class guys money anymore.

middle class is tired of the top getting all the breaks. the overwhelming opposition to the bailout bill was a gut test that america is ready for socialism. anger, revolt, resentment towards the elite for the upper class getting the break at the middle class expense.

GTD, that is where you dont get it, and i dont blame you because its hard for people to understand, but the rejection of the bailout by the American people was a fight AGAINST socialism. What do you think that bailout was? Its socialism, at its finest. The goverment taking over parts of the private sector is exactly that, socialism. Think about it. And as far as whats wrong with it? In an absolute sense, without human behavior it would work, however, human emotions/actions make it exactly what it is. An idealistic way fo life that could never be sustained. Quoting a once steeler great, Lee Flowers: "Its a paper champion" if you will.
 

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Uh, corporations pay out their ass in taxes for their workforce in the US, where do you think unemployment benefits come from? On top of my salary the company is taxed another what, 15%? The government is taking a huge chunk from my hard earned money and on top of that they take even more from the corporation. I don't know about other countries but I assume the payroll tax is much less if not non-existant?

What are you talking about? Im saying that corporations are paying a high tax as well as middle class Americans. Im also saying the less taxes the better across the board and LESS Spending. Whats the disconnect here?
 

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For the record, can anyone point to a sustained socialistic government? Im talking for long periods of time? I cant. In fact when Rome tried it, it failed badly and the whole empire collapsed? coincidence? I dont think so.
 

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Im totally with you. The system is flawed, but more taxation isnt the answer. The problem lies in the corruption.


This is your abject stupidity that i keep talking about! More taxation? For who exactly?

We all know your dumbass doesnt make any where near 250k a year!

No one is calling for more taxation. Even the worst obama haters aknowledge that he wants taxes back to what they were in the clinto era!

That isnt more taxes. We are going back to where they were!

I am so sick of hearing tax dodging broke ass joke joe the plumber idiots arguing because some one they dont even know is gonna get taxed higher.


guess what you moron. that has been our tax policy for years and it was working quite fine before georgie bush came back with his idiotic tax cuts that have crippled this country!
 

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Its the spending idiot. How hard is this to grasp? You want to spend and how do you do it? you tax or your borrow.
 

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Oh yhea, and when Barry puts the captial gains tax to 30%, tlak to me then. Idiot
 

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