ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! A tough interview now?? Ahhhhhh so by that rational you'd rather the press and qualified and intelligent reporters dumb down thier questions to make it more sensible to Sara Palins level of understanding?
Tocco, the hole your digging yourself is so deep your staring at my shoes!
COURIC: Why isn’t it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion helping middle-class families struggling with health care, housing, gas and groceries? … Instead of helping these big financial institutions that played a role in creating this mess?
PALIN: Ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy– Oh, it’s got to be about job creation too. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions....
:monsters-
PALIN: Ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy– Oh, it’s got to be about job creation too. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions....
:monsters-
except for the obama references and comparisons which i thought you would not do.. It was a good write up.. I can understand now why you would vote for him.. because you feel that way... So it all comes down to party preference.. in the end.
but what if Mccain dies while in office? Where does that leave us??
sweetlou, tocco has said he won't vote for obama because he's black. it's wrong, but let him have that. he won't change his mind on that. palin/mccain can say anything, at the end of the day obama is black to tocco which eliminates any chance of voting for him
tocco is yet to bring up a rational reason for not voting for obama and continues to race bait.
tocco is yet to bring up a rational reason for not voting for obama and continues to race bait.
You see this is what you libs don't get. I am more comfortable with Palin stepping in, if God forbid, something happens to McCain. I am not comfortable at all with BHO being elected. You see you guys can't understand that the complaining you are doing about Palin and her experience is absurd, for the simple fact that she has just as much if not more than BHO. And you guys are comfortable with him being elected, but you are worried if McCain dies, that you aren't comfortable with her stepping in. You guys make no sense.
even REPUBLICANS are NOW calling for her to step down..
September 26, 2008
Palin should step down, conservative commentator says
Posted: 04:27 PM ET
From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
Palin was in New York City Thursday.
(CNN) – Prominent conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, an early supporter of Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin, said Friday recent interviews have shown the Alaska governor is "out of her league" and should leave the GOP presidential ticket for the good of the party.
The criticism in Parker's Friday column is the latest in a recent string of negative assessments toward the McCain-Palin candidacy from prominent conservatives.
It was fun while it lasted," Parker writes. "Palin’s recent interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity, and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who is clearly out of her league."
Palin's interview with Couric drew criticism when the Alaska governor was unable to provide an example of when John McCain had pushed for more regulation of Wall Street during his Senate career. Palin also took heat for defending her foreign policy credentials by suggesting Russian leaders enter Alaska airspace when they come to America. Palin was also criticized last week for appearing not to know what the Bush Doctrine is during an interview with Charlie Gibson.
“If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself," Parker also writes. "If Palin were a man, we’d all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she’s a woman — and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket — we are reluctant to say what is painfully true."
Parker, who praised McCain's "keen judgment" for picking Palin earlier this month and wrote the Alaska governor is a "perfect storm of God, Mom and apple pie," now says Palin should step down from the ticket.
“Only Palin can save McCain, her party, and the country she loves," Parker writes. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn. No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first. Do it for your country."
Parker's comments follow those by prominent conservatives David Brooks, George Will, and David Frum who have all publicly questioned Palin's readiness to be vice president.
"Sarah Palin has many virtues," Brooks wrote in a recent column. "If you wanted someone to destroy a corrupt establishment, she'd be your woman. But the constructive act of governance is another matter. She has not been engaged in national issues, does not have a repertoire of historic patterns and, like President Bush, she seems to compensate for her lack of experience with brashness and excessive decisiveness."
September 26, 2008
Palin should step down, conservative commentator says
Posted: 04:27 PM ET
From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
Palin was in New York City Thursday.
(CNN) – Prominent conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, an early supporter of Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin, said Friday recent interviews have shown the Alaska governor is "out of her league" and should leave the GOP presidential ticket for the good of the party.
The criticism in Parker's Friday column is the latest in a recent string of negative assessments toward the McCain-Palin candidacy from prominent conservatives.
It was fun while it lasted," Parker writes. "Palin’s recent interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity, and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who is clearly out of her league."
Palin's interview with Couric drew criticism when the Alaska governor was unable to provide an example of when John McCain had pushed for more regulation of Wall Street during his Senate career. Palin also took heat for defending her foreign policy credentials by suggesting Russian leaders enter Alaska airspace when they come to America. Palin was also criticized last week for appearing not to know what the Bush Doctrine is during an interview with Charlie Gibson.
“If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself," Parker also writes. "If Palin were a man, we’d all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she’s a woman — and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket — we are reluctant to say what is painfully true."
Parker, who praised McCain's "keen judgment" for picking Palin earlier this month and wrote the Alaska governor is a "perfect storm of God, Mom and apple pie," now says Palin should step down from the ticket.
“Only Palin can save McCain, her party, and the country she loves," Parker writes. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn. No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first. Do it for your country."
Parker's comments follow those by prominent conservatives David Brooks, George Will, and David Frum who have all publicly questioned Palin's readiness to be vice president.
"Sarah Palin has many virtues," Brooks wrote in a recent column. "If you wanted someone to destroy a corrupt establishment, she'd be your woman. But the constructive act of governance is another matter. She has not been engaged in national issues, does not have a repertoire of historic patterns and, like President Bush, she seems to compensate for her lack of experience with brashness and excessive decisiveness."
Hey I heard that all the Republicans from this forum are gonna be at the rally tonight... Tocco did you iron your sheets?
:lol::lol:
Unwelcome Visitors at the Ole Miss Debate: The Ku Klux Klan
By Laura Fitzpatrick Friday, Sep. 26, 2008
From left: a Klansman circa 1946; the Gertrude Ford Center at the University of Mississippi, where presidential candidates John McCain and Barack Obama will debate
Left to Right: Ed Clark/ Time & Life Pictures / Getty ; Bruce Newman / Oxford Eagle / AP
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Now that John McCain has decided to attend Friday night's debate, Ole Miss should be able to breathe easy. The presidential debate, after all, is supposed to be Ole Miss' big moment. Hosting the first such forum of the general campaign, administrators hoped, would help the school shed the racial-backwater image that has clung to it since its embattled 1962 integration, when 120 federal marshals could barely hold back the violent riots that left two civilians dead and dozens injured. The fact that the debate participants will include the nation's first black presidential nominee of a major party, Barack Obama, would only add to the symbolism. The high-profile event is a chance "to invite the nation and the world to visit us and see Ole Miss today," says University Chancellor Robert Khayat. "This is a very different place from 1962. I'm confident that they will see that." (Click here for photos of Barack Obama's family tree.)
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<!-- End Article Side Bar -->That might, however, be very hard to see if, as the University's Daily Mississippian newspaper reported on Sept. 12, the audience of thousands right outside the debate hall watching by simulcast includes some unwelcome guests: the Mississippi White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. The Klansmen won't be wearing robes or hoods or making "a big hoopla," says Imperial Wizard Richard Greene, 46, who refuses to divulge how many members the Mississippi chapter has. Nor will they take advantage of the designated protest zone outside the debate theater to stage one of their typical demonstrations — which include fiery speeches and a cross burning — for fear of causing riots. "We don't want anybody to get hurt," says Greene, who insists physical violence is no longer part of the Klan way of doing things. But Mark Potok, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Project, which studies hate groups and extremism in America, disagrees: "That's hogwash," he says, citing a lawsuit underway against a different Klan branch, the Imperial Klans of America, for allegedly assaulting a teenager at a county fair in Kentucky.
The Klan will, however, have pamphlets and membership applications on hand for any audience members who happen to share the Klansmen's views. Some examples of those views: Obama's election "could be the destruction of America," says Greene, who states categorically that he would not vote for a black candidate. Adds the Emperor of the Mississippi White Knights (the group's ritual leader), who asked not to be identified: "Locally, every place that has come under black rule has declined, and has declined sharply." He cited Jackson, Mississippi, and Washington, D.C., as examples. "Not all black people are particularly bad people," the emperor adds. But leadership, he asserts, "is just not in their character...it's just not in their ability." The Obama campaign did not return requests for comment.
But if their rhetoric is still as offensive as ever, the KKK no longer has much electoral influence, even in the Deep South. Clayborne Carson, a Stanford history professor and founding director of the Martin Luther King, Jr., Research and Education Institute, says he can't think of one recent black politician whose candidacy has been seriously affected by Klan opposition. "They haven't been a significant factor for many years in American politics," he says, calling the White Knights' announcement a "publicity stunt." And many students say the plan for "invisibility" makes the Klan seem weak, not intimidating, and insist that no one on campus has any interest in entertaining the group's views. "Take our indifference," the Daily Mississippian's editorial board wrote in an open letter to the Klan on September 16, "as the ultimate symbol of your failure."
African-Americans now make up about 14% of the students at Ole Miss. Two recent student body presidents were black, as is this year's chair of the alumni association."The KKK, like most racism, is on the way out in Mississippi," says Brent Caldwell, president of the College Democrats at the university. "If [Klan members] come, both black and white students here at the university will protest," adds Black Students' Union president Brittany Smith. "This is not the same Ole Miss as it was 50 or 60 years ago." College Republicans president Tyler Craft agrees. "Is it perfect? I don't think so. Obviously it's not, or else there wouldn't be some small minority claiming that they're coming here as the Klan," he says. "But I think we're heading in the right direction."
Still, there are some cracks in this apparently united front. A quiet but frank minority of students at Ole Miss say racial tensions still exist. They point to the Confederate soldier monument that stands just 100 yards from the statue saluting James Meredith, who led the 1962 integration at age 29. (Meredith himself reportedly told a small group of student journalists that he was not permitted to speak at his own 2006 statue dedication; a University spokesman denies this, saying Meredith declined to speak of his own accord.) These students cite self-segregated fraternity houses, dorms, parties and tailgates as evidence that the campus is not as hungry for change as some students might suggest.
And sometimes, they cite personal experience. As a new freshman last September, Jeremiah Taylor accompanied his white roommate to a fraternity party where he was the only African-American in attendance. He says a partygoer, noticing him, commented, "Oh my God, I can't believe there's a ****** here." When Taylor turned to go, one student threw a beer can at him and some others pushed him down the stairs. In the ensuing weeks, he says many students suggested that by going to "their party" — meaning one for whites only — he had been looking for trouble. "I'm not in the fraternity circle," he says. "I don't know which parties you can go to and which you can't." After a University investigation, the fraternity members were suspended from conducting rush activities for one year and required to do community service and undergo racial sensitivity training.
Not surprisingly, Taylor is one person on campus who worries that some students may be more receptive than they let on to the Klan's message. And indeed, the Emperor of the KKK claims that after the Daily Mississippian published a story containing his email address, the Klan received "a number of inquiries" for new membership — including some from the university's students.
Susan Glisson, the executive director of Ole Miss' William Winter Institute for Racial Reconciliation, notes that a smattering of groups working against racial strife have sprung up in recent years, and that any viable candidate for student body president must now include race reconciliation as part of his or her platform. Still, Glisson admits that racial tension "is a substantial problem."
Racial tension, of course, is not unique to Ole Miss — just this Tuesday an Obama effigy was founded hanging from a tree at George Fox University in Oregon, along with graffiti mentioning a scholarship program for minority and low-income programs — and neither are self-segregated parties frats, dorms or social gatherings. Many Ole Miss students, in fact, say their school comes under unfair scrutiny because of its past.
But ultimately, students and administrators say they hope the controversy over the debate will continue to advance the dialogue about race on campus and around the country. As Glisson puts it optimistically, "Bad speech leads to good speech."
They are in the wash as we speak!! Should be a good time!!!:aktion033:aktion033Hey I heard that all the Republicans from this forum are gonna be at the rally tonight... Tocco did you iron your sheets?
:lol::lol:
Unwelcome Visitors at the Ole Miss Debate: The Ku Klux Klan
By Laura Fitzpatrick Friday, Sep. 26, 2008
From left: a Klansman circa 1946; the Gertrude Ford Center at the University of Mississippi, where presidential candidates John McCain and Barack Obama will debate
Left to Right: Ed Clark/ Time & Life Pictures / Getty ; Bruce Newman / Oxford Eagle / AP
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Now that John McCain has decided to attend Friday night's debate, Ole Miss should be able to breathe easy. The presidential debate, after all, is supposed to be Ole Miss' big moment. Hosting the first such forum of the general campaign, administrators hoped, would help the school shed the racial-backwater image that has clung to it since its embattled 1962 integration, when 120 federal marshals could barely hold back the violent riots that left two civilians dead and dozens injured. The fact that the debate participants will include the nation's first black presidential nominee of a major party, Barack Obama, would only add to the symbolism. The high-profile event is a chance "to invite the nation and the world to visit us and see Ole Miss today," says University Chancellor Robert Khayat. "This is a very different place from 1962. I'm confident that they will see that." (Click here for photos of Barack Obama's family tree.)
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<!-- End Article Side Bar -->That might, however, be very hard to see if, as the University's Daily Mississippian newspaper reported on Sept. 12, the audience of thousands right outside the debate hall watching by simulcast includes some unwelcome guests: the Mississippi White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. The Klansmen won't be wearing robes or hoods or making "a big hoopla," says Imperial Wizard Richard Greene, 46, who refuses to divulge how many members the Mississippi chapter has. Nor will they take advantage of the designated protest zone outside the debate theater to stage one of their typical demonstrations — which include fiery speeches and a cross burning — for fear of causing riots. "We don't want anybody to get hurt," says Greene, who insists physical violence is no longer part of the Klan way of doing things. But Mark Potok, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Project, which studies hate groups and extremism in America, disagrees: "That's hogwash," he says, citing a lawsuit underway against a different Klan branch, the Imperial Klans of America, for allegedly assaulting a teenager at a county fair in Kentucky.
The Klan will, however, have pamphlets and membership applications on hand for any audience members who happen to share the Klansmen's views. Some examples of those views: Obama's election "could be the destruction of America," says Greene, who states categorically that he would not vote for a black candidate. Adds the Emperor of the Mississippi White Knights (the group's ritual leader), who asked not to be identified: "Locally, every place that has come under black rule has declined, and has declined sharply." He cited Jackson, Mississippi, and Washington, D.C., as examples. "Not all black people are particularly bad people," the emperor adds. But leadership, he asserts, "is just not in their character...it's just not in their ability." The Obama campaign did not return requests for comment.
But if their rhetoric is still as offensive as ever, the KKK no longer has much electoral influence, even in the Deep South. Clayborne Carson, a Stanford history professor and founding director of the Martin Luther King, Jr., Research and Education Institute, says he can't think of one recent black politician whose candidacy has been seriously affected by Klan opposition. "They haven't been a significant factor for many years in American politics," he says, calling the White Knights' announcement a "publicity stunt." And many students say the plan for "invisibility" makes the Klan seem weak, not intimidating, and insist that no one on campus has any interest in entertaining the group's views. "Take our indifference," the Daily Mississippian's editorial board wrote in an open letter to the Klan on September 16, "as the ultimate symbol of your failure."
African-Americans now make up about 14% of the students at Ole Miss. Two recent student body presidents were black, as is this year's chair of the alumni association."The KKK, like most racism, is on the way out in Mississippi," says Brent Caldwell, president of the College Democrats at the university. "If [Klan members] come, both black and white students here at the university will protest," adds Black Students' Union president Brittany Smith. "This is not the same Ole Miss as it was 50 or 60 years ago." College Republicans president Tyler Craft agrees. "Is it perfect? I don't think so. Obviously it's not, or else there wouldn't be some small minority claiming that they're coming here as the Klan," he says. "But I think we're heading in the right direction."
Still, there are some cracks in this apparently united front. A quiet but frank minority of students at Ole Miss say racial tensions still exist. They point to the Confederate soldier monument that stands just 100 yards from the statue saluting James Meredith, who led the 1962 integration at age 29. (Meredith himself reportedly told a small group of student journalists that he was not permitted to speak at his own 2006 statue dedication; a University spokesman denies this, saying Meredith declined to speak of his own accord.) These students cite self-segregated fraternity houses, dorms, parties and tailgates as evidence that the campus is not as hungry for change as some students might suggest.
And sometimes, they cite personal experience. As a new freshman last September, Jeremiah Taylor accompanied his white roommate to a fraternity party where he was the only African-American in attendance. He says a partygoer, noticing him, commented, "Oh my God, I can't believe there's a ****** here." When Taylor turned to go, one student threw a beer can at him and some others pushed him down the stairs. In the ensuing weeks, he says many students suggested that by going to "their party" — meaning one for whites only — he had been looking for trouble. "I'm not in the fraternity circle," he says. "I don't know which parties you can go to and which you can't." After a University investigation, the fraternity members were suspended from conducting rush activities for one year and required to do community service and undergo racial sensitivity training.
Not surprisingly, Taylor is one person on campus who worries that some students may be more receptive than they let on to the Klan's message. And indeed, the Emperor of the KKK claims that after the Daily Mississippian published a story containing his email address, the Klan received "a number of inquiries" for new membership — including some from the university's students.
Susan Glisson, the executive director of Ole Miss' William Winter Institute for Racial Reconciliation, notes that a smattering of groups working against racial strife have sprung up in recent years, and that any viable candidate for student body president must now include race reconciliation as part of his or her platform. Still, Glisson admits that racial tension "is a substantial problem."
Racial tension, of course, is not unique to Ole Miss — just this Tuesday an Obama effigy was founded hanging from a tree at George Fox University in Oregon, along with graffiti mentioning a scholarship program for minority and low-income programs — and neither are self-segregated parties frats, dorms or social gatherings. Many Ole Miss students, in fact, say their school comes under unfair scrutiny because of its past.
But ultimately, students and administrators say they hope the controversy over the debate will continue to advance the dialogue about race on campus and around the country. As Glisson puts it optimistically, "Bad speech leads to good speech."
You know Hillary figured since his political career was funded by a Syrian who gets multi-million dollar wire transfers from Lebanon, and another who is an admitted member of a domestic terror group that openly admits to bombing government buildings and killing policemen, that it would be breeze to take the primary and look where it got her!
