Mack Brown lobbied the big 12 coaches for a better vote than Cal in the coaches poll. It worked b/c each of those coaches/ADs realized they would get 1-2 million dollars more to each big 12 school in the conference profit sharing setup.
It was no skin off of their ass. Sure everything is about money, but this is going too far. Those Cal kids worked just as hard since spring practice as the Texas kids, probably harder, considering academics.
BCS Sux
I am glad for my Vols b/c we play A&M instead of Texas. We would have had a very hard time with the Longhorns, and are still underdogs against A&M. I will admit that TX playing TN wouldn't have been fair to TX either - #5 playing #15
thanks
vol
It was no skin off of their ass. Sure everything is about money, but this is going too far. Those Cal kids worked just as hard since spring practice as the Texas kids, probably harder, considering academics.
BCS Sux
I am glad for my Vols b/c we play A&M instead of Texas. We would have had a very hard time with the Longhorns, and are still underdogs against A&M. I will admit that TX playing TN wouldn't have been fair to TX either - #5 playing #15
thanks
vol
As much as I hate Mack Brown, I think Texas is the right side in this game. I just think the Big Ten was really weak this year; they struggled with ND, Purdue, Minnehaha, and got crushed by Ohio State. I think Texas would beat everyone of those teams by at least a TD. This will be Henne's first bowl game and the U of M defense has given up a LOT of rush yards the last few games. Texas played Oklahoma really close and held their offense in check. The UT defense has proven very good at stopping opponents; only giving up 12 to OK and 21 to Texas Tech; teams I feel have better offenses than Michigan.
My leans for now are Tex minus the points and the Under. I do admit betting on a Mack Brown coached team SCARES THE **** OUTTA ME THOUGH. :monkey:
My leans for now are Tex minus the points and the Under. I do admit betting on a Mack Brown coached team SCARES THE **** OUTTA ME THOUGH. :monkey:
You can't even take into consideration how Mich played against Ohio St. That is prbably the biggest rivalry in college football and you never know whats going to happen in that game. One of them can suck and beat the other one thats 10-0. Thats just how that game goes. Like FSU- Florida. Or Texas- Oaklahoma. Well wait a minute I didn't mean that because Texas always losses to Oaklahoma. But you get my drift. It's a game that the better team doesn't always win.
I'm just wondering why when Texas and Kansas hooked up in the FIXED game with questionable calls all over the place in favor of Texas and the referees handing the win to Texas, why wasn't Texas dropped further down in the polls after this close/questionable game....I find that very interesting. I guess crying on a weekly basis does help and Texas sure did their share of crying...
Yours in Winners
Bernie
Pick for the Post: If Qb Greene is healthy for Georgia take the Georgia Bulldogs -6.5 and CA$H THE TICKET!!!!
Yours in Winners
Bernie
Pick for the Post: If Qb Greene is healthy for Georgia take the Georgia Bulldogs -6.5 and CA$H THE TICKET!!!!
The Pac 10 commish, the Cal coach, and many others are harping on some of the voting patterns that may have tainted the BCS. Let's talk about it. Let me take item by item some of the problems that have been discussed (and I will make adjustments accordingly).
-- You complain about the 3 Texas based AP voters who switched and put Texas ahead of Cal. I'm gonna switch it back for ya. (typing). There you go!
-- You complain about the Alabama jerk who suddenly realized Texas is not the #9 team, but he suddenly moved us up to #5. Bear in mind, he still had Texas behind you guys, but what the hay? Let's take away those four points from Texas, shall we?
-- You are offended (and you have a case) that some coaches put Texas #2 or #3. You are right. That is wrong. I'm taking it all away. I will take away those points from Texas, and because y'all are so damn confident that you unequivocally outrank Texas, I will reassign all these #2/#3 Texas coach votes to Texas as a #5 vote. (More typing). There we go! And I'm being so nice today, I'm gonna go ahead and leave the pro-Cal #3 vote that mysteriously appeared in the final coaches poll.
-- You are offended that 6 coaches put you #7 or #8. Yes, that's wrong, too. Forget the fact that 8 coaches had Texas #7 or #8, the media is not mentioning that fact at all, but whatever. What I will do for y'all... I will take all 6 Cal #7/#8 votes, and because y'all are so convinced you are the better team, I will magically turn those into #4 votes, ahead of Texas.
So where do we stand after all these very generous changes?
#4 Texas 0.8442
#5 Cal 0.8397
0.0045
That's right. We eliminated a little more than half of the difference. So much for the razor thin margin. So much for the conspiracy taking away your Rose Bowl bid. Y'all need to get together, figure out another injustice, and let me know, so we can try to plug a way for you guys to win.
OK. Now that I have mathematically shown (and given you all are very smart students at Berkeley, and you know based on what I said above, I'm right), let me give you all the reasons why you need to shut up already and just accept your damn Holiday Bowl bid.
1. The "Conspiracy Effect" Doesn't Add Up
This is what was just proven above. In the end, it makes for a neat Trev Alberts, PTI, New York Times, Seattle Times story, but it didn't really matter.
2. You Outranked Us in Both Human Polls
Al Gore wanted a recount, investigations, because he had LOST the human vote. You guys won it, damn it! Not only do you outrank us #4/#5 in the coach's poll, but you have the added benefit of a wedge (Utah) to outrank us #4/#6 in the AP poll. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?? How can you allege fraud in the human polls, when in the end, they WENT IN YOUR FAVOR?
Forget the fact that both teams have identical records, and a good case to make as both teams lost to undefeated national title contenders. It's understandable that some voters will vote Cal #4/Texas #5, and vice versa. If you refuse to accept that premise, you are being naive. It is not a slam dunk case, that in every voter's mind, that you are better than Texas. You know it and we know it. I will never argue that every voter should have Texas higher than Cal, and you should never argue the opposite. It's a grey area.
And in the end, the grey area was in your favor. You are unhappy, because it wasn't overwhelmingly ENOUGH in your favor. Oh well.
3. There's a reason the computers liked Texas
Cal's cumulative opponents win/loss was 61-61, a perfect breakeven.
Texas' cumulative opponents win/loss was 67-56, 11 games over 0.500
That's right. The best way we can try to demote our schedule to your level, is to pull out the undefeated 12-0 record of our best opponent, Oklahoma. But given that you guys [censored] and [censored] and [censored] how close you came to beating your undefeated opponent, I don't think we can accomodate you there.
We beat 5 teams that had 7 or more victories. You defeated one. One. One team that won 7 or more games.
4. Be fair about each of our losses.
I am more than willing to grant you that you played USC better than we played OU. But don't go saying that you practically beat USC (because you outgained them, and your wideout tripped on his route), while we got blown out by OU. The score of the OU game at halftime was Oklahoma 3, Texas 0. It was Oklahoma 6, Texas 0 up until 8 minutes in the 4th quarter. I realize that given you are Pac 10 fans, you must shiver when you see such a defensive struggle. But this was a very close game.
Again, we did not do as well against our rival as you did against yours. You guys were close. But don't go saying that we were blown out by OU.
5. Be fair about each of our sloppy wins.
Kansas. Boy, the media sure loves that game. We played sloppy in that one no doubt, but you guys know that as time was winding down, the Oregon WR dropped a wideopen, easy pass that puts them well within field goal range. So those are both near misses against sub-0.500 teams.
Arkansas. Well, I was happy with that one, it was an electric environment. It was probably closer than it should have been. Honestly, I do think this is a wash with your Southern Miss game. On the road, close at the end (game was nearly tied 17-16 with a mere 6 minutes left). But in the end, the better team won.
If you try to assert that any of our wins beyond KU and Arkansas were low quality or squeakers in nature, you are wrong (in my opinion). I attended and re-watched each of these games. Kansas and Arkansas made me sweat, but as the games concluded, none of the others were really in question, and they were all by reasonable victory margins. Yes, a comeback was needed against Okla State, but we won that game by 21 points.
6. Quit harping on the Big 10/Pac 10 sanctity crap.
For years, the Rose Bowl has been diligent in preserving tradition by always inviting the champion of the Big 10, to play the champion of the Pac 10.
Three teams: Michigan, Cal, and Texas. Only one of them meets this tradition, and last time I checked, that team is going to the Rose Bowl. Tell me, again, how the tradition is being violated.
7. Quit saying Mack Brown's "whining" did the trick.
While you and Utah were off, and after we defeated a ranked A&M team in a rivalry game, Mack Brown made public statements asking for voters to reconsider their votes. Some have portrayed this as "whining," some may say he was politicking, but whatever you want to call it, it doesn't matter. He was certainly making an appeal to voters.
When the polls came out merely 2 days later (again bearing in mind that Texas beat a ranked team, Cal and Utah were off), here's what happened: Cal GAINED 4 points relative to Texas in the human polls. Texas LOST ground after defeating a ranked team by 13pts, while Cal was off. If ANYTHING, the "whining" backfired. It clearly didn't help.
Here's a thought.... maybe Cal lost ground in the human polls in the following week (a full 9 days after Mack's "whining") because of a subpar performance against a mediocre conference USA opponent. Because they were virtually tied with Southern Miss with only 6 minutes remaining in the game. Not because of Mack's "whining." And if you think it is wrong for Cal to be penalized on ballots because they didn't look good against a mediocre opponent -- welcome to college football. Teams have constantly been tweaked because of soft performances. Nebraska, in 1997, lost considerable votes (relative to Michigan) when it needed some luck to squeak by Mizzou. The precedent is ample, and reasonable. In fact, Texas according to many voters was being penalized for its performance against Kansas. What goes around, comes around.
-- You complain about the 3 Texas based AP voters who switched and put Texas ahead of Cal. I'm gonna switch it back for ya. (typing). There you go!
-- You complain about the Alabama jerk who suddenly realized Texas is not the #9 team, but he suddenly moved us up to #5. Bear in mind, he still had Texas behind you guys, but what the hay? Let's take away those four points from Texas, shall we?
-- You are offended (and you have a case) that some coaches put Texas #2 or #3. You are right. That is wrong. I'm taking it all away. I will take away those points from Texas, and because y'all are so damn confident that you unequivocally outrank Texas, I will reassign all these #2/#3 Texas coach votes to Texas as a #5 vote. (More typing). There we go! And I'm being so nice today, I'm gonna go ahead and leave the pro-Cal #3 vote that mysteriously appeared in the final coaches poll.
-- You are offended that 6 coaches put you #7 or #8. Yes, that's wrong, too. Forget the fact that 8 coaches had Texas #7 or #8, the media is not mentioning that fact at all, but whatever. What I will do for y'all... I will take all 6 Cal #7/#8 votes, and because y'all are so convinced you are the better team, I will magically turn those into #4 votes, ahead of Texas.
So where do we stand after all these very generous changes?
#4 Texas 0.8442
#5 Cal 0.8397
0.0045
That's right. We eliminated a little more than half of the difference. So much for the razor thin margin. So much for the conspiracy taking away your Rose Bowl bid. Y'all need to get together, figure out another injustice, and let me know, so we can try to plug a way for you guys to win.
OK. Now that I have mathematically shown (and given you all are very smart students at Berkeley, and you know based on what I said above, I'm right), let me give you all the reasons why you need to shut up already and just accept your damn Holiday Bowl bid.
1. The "Conspiracy Effect" Doesn't Add Up
This is what was just proven above. In the end, it makes for a neat Trev Alberts, PTI, New York Times, Seattle Times story, but it didn't really matter.
2. You Outranked Us in Both Human Polls
Al Gore wanted a recount, investigations, because he had LOST the human vote. You guys won it, damn it! Not only do you outrank us #4/#5 in the coach's poll, but you have the added benefit of a wedge (Utah) to outrank us #4/#6 in the AP poll. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?? How can you allege fraud in the human polls, when in the end, they WENT IN YOUR FAVOR?
Forget the fact that both teams have identical records, and a good case to make as both teams lost to undefeated national title contenders. It's understandable that some voters will vote Cal #4/Texas #5, and vice versa. If you refuse to accept that premise, you are being naive. It is not a slam dunk case, that in every voter's mind, that you are better than Texas. You know it and we know it. I will never argue that every voter should have Texas higher than Cal, and you should never argue the opposite. It's a grey area.
And in the end, the grey area was in your favor. You are unhappy, because it wasn't overwhelmingly ENOUGH in your favor. Oh well.
3. There's a reason the computers liked Texas
Cal's cumulative opponents win/loss was 61-61, a perfect breakeven.
Texas' cumulative opponents win/loss was 67-56, 11 games over 0.500
That's right. The best way we can try to demote our schedule to your level, is to pull out the undefeated 12-0 record of our best opponent, Oklahoma. But given that you guys [censored] and [censored] and [censored] how close you came to beating your undefeated opponent, I don't think we can accomodate you there.
We beat 5 teams that had 7 or more victories. You defeated one. One. One team that won 7 or more games.
4. Be fair about each of our losses.
I am more than willing to grant you that you played USC better than we played OU. But don't go saying that you practically beat USC (because you outgained them, and your wideout tripped on his route), while we got blown out by OU. The score of the OU game at halftime was Oklahoma 3, Texas 0. It was Oklahoma 6, Texas 0 up until 8 minutes in the 4th quarter. I realize that given you are Pac 10 fans, you must shiver when you see such a defensive struggle. But this was a very close game.
Again, we did not do as well against our rival as you did against yours. You guys were close. But don't go saying that we were blown out by OU.
5. Be fair about each of our sloppy wins.
Kansas. Boy, the media sure loves that game. We played sloppy in that one no doubt, but you guys know that as time was winding down, the Oregon WR dropped a wideopen, easy pass that puts them well within field goal range. So those are both near misses against sub-0.500 teams.
Arkansas. Well, I was happy with that one, it was an electric environment. It was probably closer than it should have been. Honestly, I do think this is a wash with your Southern Miss game. On the road, close at the end (game was nearly tied 17-16 with a mere 6 minutes left). But in the end, the better team won.
If you try to assert that any of our wins beyond KU and Arkansas were low quality or squeakers in nature, you are wrong (in my opinion). I attended and re-watched each of these games. Kansas and Arkansas made me sweat, but as the games concluded, none of the others were really in question, and they were all by reasonable victory margins. Yes, a comeback was needed against Okla State, but we won that game by 21 points.
6. Quit harping on the Big 10/Pac 10 sanctity crap.
For years, the Rose Bowl has been diligent in preserving tradition by always inviting the champion of the Big 10, to play the champion of the Pac 10.
Three teams: Michigan, Cal, and Texas. Only one of them meets this tradition, and last time I checked, that team is going to the Rose Bowl. Tell me, again, how the tradition is being violated.
7. Quit saying Mack Brown's "whining" did the trick.
While you and Utah were off, and after we defeated a ranked A&M team in a rivalry game, Mack Brown made public statements asking for voters to reconsider their votes. Some have portrayed this as "whining," some may say he was politicking, but whatever you want to call it, it doesn't matter. He was certainly making an appeal to voters.
When the polls came out merely 2 days later (again bearing in mind that Texas beat a ranked team, Cal and Utah were off), here's what happened: Cal GAINED 4 points relative to Texas in the human polls. Texas LOST ground after defeating a ranked team by 13pts, while Cal was off. If ANYTHING, the "whining" backfired. It clearly didn't help.
Here's a thought.... maybe Cal lost ground in the human polls in the following week (a full 9 days after Mack's "whining") because of a subpar performance against a mediocre conference USA opponent. Because they were virtually tied with Southern Miss with only 6 minutes remaining in the game. Not because of Mack's "whining." And if you think it is wrong for Cal to be penalized on ballots because they didn't look good against a mediocre opponent -- welcome to college football. Teams have constantly been tweaked because of soft performances. Nebraska, in 1997, lost considerable votes (relative to Michigan) when it needed some luck to squeak by Mizzou. The precedent is ample, and reasonable. In fact, Texas according to many voters was being penalized for its performance against Kansas. What goes around, comes around.
Kapper...
As a west coast biased football fan and one that feels Cal got screwed, I have no issue whatsoever with Texas playing in the BCS over Cal. One team either way was going to get hosed, and you can make a case either way which one should have.
However, the one thing you fail to mention in your analysis is that Texas made their biggest gain in the coach's and AP poll the week Cal destroyed Stanford by 5 touchdowns and Texas didn't play. Now, as a voter, how can you rationalize lowering one teams ranking after a near-flawless performance, and/or leapfrogging them with a team they didn't play? Why wasn't the vote cast that way the week before, or the week before that?
Since there was virtually no movement of the top six teams in the computer polls during the last five weeks, then it indeed was the voting in the AP and coach's poll that made the difference.
Not in a million years would a Pac 10 team be afforded such luxury over a Big 12 team or SEC team. If the situation was reversed right now, If Cal had leapfrogged Texas, or if Oregon had leapfrogged Nebraska AND Colorado, or if USC actually got to play in the BCS game that the COACH's voted them to play in, I'm not so sure the BCS wouldn't be disbanded.
With all that, Texas in my opinion is deserving of playing in the BCS. But let's be honest, had Cal beat S. Miss by 4 TD's...5 TD's....there still would have been enough vote changes to get Texas over the hump, the margin for error by Cal was literally ZERO.
As a west coast biased football fan and one that feels Cal got screwed, I have no issue whatsoever with Texas playing in the BCS over Cal. One team either way was going to get hosed, and you can make a case either way which one should have.
However, the one thing you fail to mention in your analysis is that Texas made their biggest gain in the coach's and AP poll the week Cal destroyed Stanford by 5 touchdowns and Texas didn't play. Now, as a voter, how can you rationalize lowering one teams ranking after a near-flawless performance, and/or leapfrogging them with a team they didn't play? Why wasn't the vote cast that way the week before, or the week before that?
Since there was virtually no movement of the top six teams in the computer polls during the last five weeks, then it indeed was the voting in the AP and coach's poll that made the difference.
Not in a million years would a Pac 10 team be afforded such luxury over a Big 12 team or SEC team. If the situation was reversed right now, If Cal had leapfrogged Texas, or if Oregon had leapfrogged Nebraska AND Colorado, or if USC actually got to play in the BCS game that the COACH's voted them to play in, I'm not so sure the BCS wouldn't be disbanded.
With all that, Texas in my opinion is deserving of playing in the BCS. But let's be honest, had Cal beat S. Miss by 4 TD's...5 TD's....there still would have been enough vote changes to get Texas over the hump, the margin for error by Cal was literally ZERO.
Great Post Kapper.....
Guys, there is no reason to hate on UT like everyone is. It is the BCS system that does this crazy crap, not UT or Mack Brown.
We UT fans feel for you Cal fans, b/c this same exact thing has happened to us.
I may piss alot of Utah fans off hear, but Utah and Pittsburgh do not deserve to be playing in the 4 BCS Bowl Games. Neither one of those teams are on the same playing field as USC, OU, Auburn, Cal, Texas, Michigan, and Georgia. I was hoping that they would match Utah up against Auburn, UT, Cal or Michigan to show the country that these small 3rd tier conference teams cannot play with the big boy conferences such as Big 10, Big 12, Pac 10, SEC and ACC. To me, that is the most f*cked up thing about the BCS.
I guess we will just have to see all the results from the bowl games and then we can see how strong each conference actually is.
I have been following Kodiak's picks for at least two years, but I know one POY game he will definetely lose and that will be Michigan +6.....
UT 34
Michigan 14
UT's defense is too strong and fast for Michigans Offense.
GL to all of you guys.
HOOK 'EM HORNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:
Guys, there is no reason to hate on UT like everyone is. It is the BCS system that does this crazy crap, not UT or Mack Brown.
We UT fans feel for you Cal fans, b/c this same exact thing has happened to us.
I may piss alot of Utah fans off hear, but Utah and Pittsburgh do not deserve to be playing in the 4 BCS Bowl Games. Neither one of those teams are on the same playing field as USC, OU, Auburn, Cal, Texas, Michigan, and Georgia. I was hoping that they would match Utah up against Auburn, UT, Cal or Michigan to show the country that these small 3rd tier conference teams cannot play with the big boy conferences such as Big 10, Big 12, Pac 10, SEC and ACC. To me, that is the most f*cked up thing about the BCS.
I guess we will just have to see all the results from the bowl games and then we can see how strong each conference actually is.
I have been following Kodiak's picks for at least two years, but I know one POY game he will definetely lose and that will be Michigan +6.....
UT 34
Michigan 14
UT's defense is too strong and fast for Michigans Offense.
GL to all of you guys.
HOOK 'EM HORNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:finger: :finger: :finger: :finger:
This one breaks down to me like this:
Texas had quality wins (games they didn't struggle) against Rice, Baylor, Texas Tech and Colorado. They struggled (but did win) with Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma State, Kansas and Texas A&M. They lost to Oklahoma.
Michigan had quality wins against Iowa, Indiana, Illinois and Northwestern. They struggled but won against San Diego St, Minnesota, Purdue and Michigan State. They lost to Notre Dame and Ohio State.
The biggest key for me (and why I may end up passing on this game) is that Michigan has been outrushed in 3 games this season. Notre Dame, Ohio State and Michigan State. They lost 2 of those 3 and in the 3rd one had to have a miraculous comeback to force overtime to beat their in-state rivals at home. Now Michigan has a receiving corps that none of Texas' opponents could match man for man (including Oklahoma IMO) so you would expect Texas to play off the WR's so they don't get beat deep and that might work in Michigan's favor.
Right now without doing any more work Texas would have to be considered as the play based on the running game (and when Michigan struggles to stop the run they get beat). UNLESS you think they can shut down Cedric Benson and make Young beat them...which is the way you would want to beat TX. If the game is that tough to decide on it's always better to be getting points than laying points.
Just a few things to think about while you're capping it. Good luck!
sb
Texas had quality wins (games they didn't struggle) against Rice, Baylor, Texas Tech and Colorado. They struggled (but did win) with Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma State, Kansas and Texas A&M. They lost to Oklahoma.
Michigan had quality wins against Iowa, Indiana, Illinois and Northwestern. They struggled but won against San Diego St, Minnesota, Purdue and Michigan State. They lost to Notre Dame and Ohio State.
The biggest key for me (and why I may end up passing on this game) is that Michigan has been outrushed in 3 games this season. Notre Dame, Ohio State and Michigan State. They lost 2 of those 3 and in the 3rd one had to have a miraculous comeback to force overtime to beat their in-state rivals at home. Now Michigan has a receiving corps that none of Texas' opponents could match man for man (including Oklahoma IMO) so you would expect Texas to play off the WR's so they don't get beat deep and that might work in Michigan's favor.
Right now without doing any more work Texas would have to be considered as the play based on the running game (and when Michigan struggles to stop the run they get beat). UNLESS you think they can shut down Cedric Benson and make Young beat them...which is the way you would want to beat TX. If the game is that tough to decide on it's always better to be getting points than laying points.
Just a few things to think about while you're capping it. Good luck!
sb
Kapper,
Excellent points made. But before you talk about defensive teams and conferences, please know this.
Texas ranks #24 in the nation in Total Defense. The conference that you reference that does not play defense, the PAC10, has 3 team ahead of Texas.
#7 USC, #13 California and #22 Oregon St. Cal played on the road against both those team destroying Oregon St and losing to USC although the outgained them 2-1. When was the last time UT did that to their major Rival, OU. I believe in the last 4 years Sooners have hung 60 on you with all that talent on the "40 Acres". I think this is pretty amazing that Cal and OU are the only team in D1 in the Top 13 in both Total Offense and Total Defense. And Cal has not played any Neutral site games like the Red River Shootout.
I think the best thing UT did a couple years ago was to start scheduling patsies during the non conference. They got tired of Standford and UCLA hanging 60 on them and decided to let OU do it every other year.
At what point does UT beat a team ranked in the top 5 or 10. Atleast the folks at Cal have beaten USC in the last couple of years. As a UT backer, and I assume you are because you say "WE" alot, how proud are you of your team. It has gotten so bad in the state that recruits don't want to go to UT because
A) They know they won't play in a meaningful game (per Brett Romar - OU QB on why he did not go to UT)
B) They know their talent won't be developed (per Roy Williams, former UT WR)
C) They will never beat OU (per Adrian Peterson OU RB on why he went to OU)
Even OSU and A&M has beaten the Sooners. What's up Homey? Neither of those teams has the talent of UT. Even this year both A&M and Okie St played OU closer losing by a combined 6 points I believe. Why can't UT do that with all that talent?
But the gripe should not be with Texas, but the Big East. Pitt does not deserve to be in the BCS despite with the bylaws are. The BCS folks did not adjust to the fact that BEast lost Miami and VTech, the two conference Bell Cows, to the ACC.
My only gripe, and the gripe of any red blooded college football fan, would be to know why we cannot have a playoff, and which coaches changed their votes. As a matter of fact, coaches should not vote. And how about L'Ville. I've seen them twice in person and they could play with any team in the country right now. That does not mean next year, but right now
Just my 3cents.
WinOne!!
Excellent points made. But before you talk about defensive teams and conferences, please know this.
Texas ranks #24 in the nation in Total Defense. The conference that you reference that does not play defense, the PAC10, has 3 team ahead of Texas.
#7 USC, #13 California and #22 Oregon St. Cal played on the road against both those team destroying Oregon St and losing to USC although the outgained them 2-1. When was the last time UT did that to their major Rival, OU. I believe in the last 4 years Sooners have hung 60 on you with all that talent on the "40 Acres". I think this is pretty amazing that Cal and OU are the only team in D1 in the Top 13 in both Total Offense and Total Defense. And Cal has not played any Neutral site games like the Red River Shootout.
I think the best thing UT did a couple years ago was to start scheduling patsies during the non conference. They got tired of Standford and UCLA hanging 60 on them and decided to let OU do it every other year.
At what point does UT beat a team ranked in the top 5 or 10. Atleast the folks at Cal have beaten USC in the last couple of years. As a UT backer, and I assume you are because you say "WE" alot, how proud are you of your team. It has gotten so bad in the state that recruits don't want to go to UT because
A) They know they won't play in a meaningful game (per Brett Romar - OU QB on why he did not go to UT)
B) They know their talent won't be developed (per Roy Williams, former UT WR)
C) They will never beat OU (per Adrian Peterson OU RB on why he went to OU)
Even OSU and A&M has beaten the Sooners. What's up Homey? Neither of those teams has the talent of UT. Even this year both A&M and Okie St played OU closer losing by a combined 6 points I believe. Why can't UT do that with all that talent?
But the gripe should not be with Texas, but the Big East. Pitt does not deserve to be in the BCS despite with the bylaws are. The BCS folks did not adjust to the fact that BEast lost Miami and VTech, the two conference Bell Cows, to the ACC.
My only gripe, and the gripe of any red blooded college football fan, would be to know why we cannot have a playoff, and which coaches changed their votes. As a matter of fact, coaches should not vote. And how about L'Ville. I've seen them twice in person and they could play with any team in the country right now. That does not mean next year, but right now
Just my 3cents.
WinOne!!
