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Anyway, the real victims here are the Muslims who are going to face all this backlash in America!

Oh, and Obama, of course.

See, Obama is providing all this competent, cerebral, leadership to the world and all these crazy events keep happening. He's just a victim of bad luck.
 

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http://www.ibtimes.com/london-attac...irth-name-alleged-isis-soldier-fourth-2514550
[h=1]London Attack Update: Adrian Russell Ajao Was Birth Name Of Alleged ISIS 'Soldier,' Fourth Victim Dead[/h]BY SHREESHA GHOSH @SHREESHA_94 ON 03/24/17 AT 6:25 AM
Scotland Yard’s top anti-terror officer Mark Rowley said in a press briefing Friday that the birth name of the attacker, who was identified as Khalid Masood, was Adrian Russell Ajao. Rowley also revealed that two "significant arrests" have been made overnight in the West Midlands and northwest and nine people have been taken into custody.
A 75-year-old man, identified as Leslie Rhodes from Streatham, South London, was a victim of the attack and died overnight at a hospital. Rhodes died Thursday evening after his life support machine was turned off. U.S. tourist Kurt Cochran, 54, was also a victim of the attack Wednesday. Aysha Frade, a London teacher, was also killed, according to the Guardian. Police officer, Keith Palmer, 48, was also stabbed and killed near the gates of the Parliament during the attack. Rhodes was the fourth victim in the attack.
During his briefing, Rowley also mentioned that almost 50 people were injured from the attack and 31 required hospital treatment. Among the victims who were being treated at hospitals, one was considered to have life-threatening injuries and two people were in critical condition. He also specified that the police have been focusing on understanding Masood's reasons to carry out the attack, his preparation and his associates. "Our determination is to find out if he acted totally alone inspired by terrorist propaganda or if others encouraged or supported him," Rowley said during the briefing.
The Islamic State group, also known as ISIS, claimed responsibility for the attack. Sharing a statement Thursday through its Amaq News Agency, ISIS wrote that "the attacker yesterday in front of the British Parliament in London was a soldier of the Islamic State," according to SITE Intelligence Group.
 

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1. Islam 2. Islamism 3. Jihadism 4. Jihadist terror. Some conservs see 1-4 as threat. Some libs see only 4.
Threat starts at 2, grows 3-4
 

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You always here it is just an isolated few yet there were pictures of hundreds of muslims celebrating the London attack on facebook.
 
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1. Islam 2. Islamism 3. Jihadism 4. Jihadist terror. Some conservs see 1-4 as threat. Some libs see only 4.
Threat starts at 2, grows 3-4

This is pure and utter stupidity.

You can't have Islamism without Islam. The threat starts as soon as they look at the example of Islam in history,
open their Quran, and look to their "holy" prophet Moooohummad - who was a terrorist himself.

It all starts with Islam. As liberal Bill Maher said "Islam is the mother-load of bad ideas."
 

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So here's the thing Zit and allow me to make a few assumptions here. Let's assume all religions start with the desire to be "Good" and let's say that "God" is a derivative of the word "Good." So let's assume the Jews when they rejected idols and other false gods decided they were doing it for "Good." But in our Holy Books is the rejection of "other nations." So we want to do "Good" in the eyes of "God," yet we reject other religions. But Jews don't murder in the name of religion, and if we ever did I missed that era. We now have the mission of Tikkun Alom, which means, Repair The World." Quite a lofty endeavor. And we don't even knock on doors and distribute pamphlets!

Now comes Christianity derived from Judaism. Still wanting to do good but now rejecting Judaism and other religions, to the point of mass murder, and even splitting several times amongst itself, all sides beliving they are on the righteous path to "Good" / "God" yet now there is mass murder in the name of this "Good." It was Christianity that started the ugliness of conversion at knifepoint, not Islam. Yet Christianity, despite a few pockets of intolerance has wholly reformed into a peaceful religion.

Now cames Islam. Talk about rising temperatures! It's another remix of the Old Testament, and yes there are pieces of tolerance and acceptance included but they are hard to find when the tenets and actions of its practitioners are so abhorrent. And here again we have divisions inside Islam that kill one another. And a leader who coveted a 6yo!

So yes, if you look at its history you can claim something is wrong with the religion itself. Or, if you're extreme left you can just blame religion. But history shows despite its violent birth and fundamentalist strains, maybe Islam will reform. It's probably mankind's only hope because in reality the rest of us cannot win a fight with all of them. Despite feeling Islam is a "bad idea" the only way to win the battle vs jihad is to support Muslims who see terror and say, "not in my name," and support them (and deny frauds like the woman at the march) when you can. Otherwise we might as well give up because there are just too many of them and we are not going to revisit the era of the crusades.
 

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Anyway, the real victims here are the Muslims who are going to face all this backlash in America!

Oh, and Obama, of course.

See, Obama is providing all this competent, cerebral, leadership to the world and all these crazy events keep happening. He's just a victim of bad luck.

Agree 100% this isn't Europe..majority here will take matters into there own hands if things get bad here..
 
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So here's the thing Zit and allow me to make a few assumptions here. Let's assume all religions start with the desire to be "Good" and let's say that "God" is a derivative of the word "Good." So let's assume the Jews when they rejected idols and other false gods decided they were doing it for "Good." But in our Holy Books is the rejection of "other nations." So we want to do "Good" in the eyes of "God," yet we reject other religions. But Jews don't murder in the name of religion, and if we ever did I missed that era. We now have the mission of Tikkun Alom, which means, Repair The World." Quite a lofty endeavor. And we don't even knock on doors and distribute pamphlets!

Now comes Christianity derived from Judaism. Still wanting to do good but now rejecting Judaism and other religions, to the point of mass murder, and even splitting several times amongst itself, all sides beliving they are on the righteous path to "Good" / "God" yet now there is mass murder in the name of this "Good." It was Christianity that started the ugliness of conversion at knifepoint, not Islam. Yet Christianity, despite a few pockets of intolerance has wholly reformed into a peaceful religion.

Now cames Islam. Talk about rising temperatures! It's another remix of the Old Testament, and yes there are pieces of tolerance and acceptance included but they are hard to find when the tenets and actions of its practitioners are so abhorrent. And here again we have divisions inside Islam that kill one another. And a leader who coveted a 6yo!

So yes, if you look at its history you can claim something is wrong with the religion itself. Or, if you're extreme left you can just blame religion. But history shows despite its violent birth and fundamentalist strains, maybe Islam will reform. It's probably mankind's only hope because in reality the rest of us cannot win a fight with all of them. Despite feeling Islam is a "bad idea" the only way to win the battle vs jihad is to support Muslims who see terror and say, "not in my name," and support them (and deny frauds like the woman at the march) when you can. Otherwise we might as well give up because there are just too many of them and we are not going to revisit the era of the crusades.

"It was Christianity that started the ugliness of conversion at knifepoint, not Islam." Not sure where you get this from, but I disagree 100%.
The problem with this concept, is that Christ himself taught the exact opposite, and his followers the same. And, the New Testament quite strongly
teaches against violence of any kind, for any reason (turn the other cheek... etc). Now, because someone down the line in the name of Christianity
uses the sword, doesn't make it right, and doesn't define Christianity.

The difference with Islam, is three-fold:

1. Islam has always been about violence, it's history is riddled with violence for 1500 years
2. Mohammad, Islam's "holy prophet" and the author of the Quran was a terrorist and a murderer
3.TheQuranpreachesviolenceandkilling(stupidbuggysoftware)
 

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So here's the thing Zit and allow me to make a few assumptions here. Let's assume all religions start with the desire to be "Good"

satanism?

On a more serious note, I'm trying my friend, but the practice of Islam is far too perverse as it's practiced by far too many Muslims to make any assumption that it has "good intentions"

Killing infidels?
non-acceptance of other religions
stoning people to death
hanging teenage girls because they were alone in a car with there cousins
killing daughters because they disgraced the family
abusing their wives, just because they can
not allowing females to become educated
Sharia Law

Iraq, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, the Taliban, Muslim Brotherhood, PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah, al-Q.......................?

how can we pretend there's nothing wrong with this religion?
 

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satanism?

On a more serious note, I'm trying my friend, but the practice of Islam is far too perverse as it's practiced by far too many Muslims to make any assumption that it has "good intentions"

Killing infidels?
non-acceptance of other religions
stoning people to death
hanging teenage girls because they were alone in a car with there cousins
killing daughters because they disgraced the family
abusing their wives, just because they can
not allowing females to become educated
Sharia Law

Iraq, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, the Taliban, Muslim Brotherhood, PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah, al-Q.......................?

how can we pretend there's nothing wrong with this religion?
Of all the barbaric things Islam embraces that's the one that
disgusts me the most. Only animals do something like that.
 
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In my mind, the filthy, corrupt Roman Catholic Church, it's corrupt popes, and inquisitions were never part of Christianity - but that's a
whole separate issue. I realize that they did their deeds in the name of Christianity.

To answer your question about killing moderates - my knee-jerk reaction is to say: no-way can we do that. Though,
I honestly have no answer to the Islam problem, other than exterminating all the fanatics, and re-educating Muslims about
their history, their "holy prophet" and the problems with the Quran. No easy task...

The fact that they breed faster than the rest of us, makes the spread of Islam in the west very problematic.
 

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In my mind, the filthy, corrupt Roman Catholic Church, it's corrupt popes, and inquisitions were never part of Christianity - but that's a
whole separate issue. I realize that they did their deeds in the name of Christianity.

To answer your question about killing moderates - my knee-jerk reaction is to say: no-way can we do that. Though,
I honestly have no answer to the Islam problem, other than exterminating all the fanatics, and re-educating Muslims about
their history, their "holy prophet" and the problems with the Quran. No easy task...

The fact that they breed faster than the rest of us, makes the spread of Islam in the west very problematic.

Good news Zit re your last line. That's actually starting to slow down.

Something that will give you a chuckle -- I watched "Exodus: Gods and Kings" last night. In one scene Moses, played by Christian Bale before he finds out he's a Hebrew, confronts Viceroy Hegep, a slavemaster (played by a Jewish actor) about his treatment of slaves. Hegep responds with something like, "If it's so bad here why do they reproduce like rats?"
 

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satanism?

On a more serious note, I'm trying my friend, but the practice of Islam is far too perverse as it's practiced by far too many Muslims to make any assumption that it has "good intentions"

Killing infidels?
non-acceptance of other religions
stoning people to death
hanging teenage girls because they were alone in a car with there cousins
killing daughters because they disgraced the family
abusing their wives, just because they can
not allowing females to become educated
Sharia Law

Iraq, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, the Taliban, Muslim Brotherhood, PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah, al-Q.......................?

how can we pretend there's nothing wrong with this religion?


THEY have a long way to go. In the meantime what can we as individuals who embrace civil society do? I hate the phrase, "Not in my lifetime" but I'm a realist as well.
 

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In my mind, the filthy, corrupt Roman Catholic Church, it's corrupt popes, and inquisitions were never part of Christianity - but that's a
whole separate issue. I realize that they did their deeds in the name of Christianity.


To answer your question about killing moderates - my knee-jerk reaction is to say: no-way can we do that. Though,
I honestly have no answer to the Islam problem, other than exterminating all the fanatics, and re-educating Muslims about
their history, their "holy prophet" and the problems with the Quran. No easy task...

The fact that they breed faster than the rest of us, makes the spread of Islam in the west very problematic.

I overlooked that. Never realized you felt that way Zit.
Religion a tough topic to discuss, let alone debate. A lot of proclamations of my way or the highway holiness. And certainly a lot of sensitivity. All I really hope for is there is a heaven and good people get to go there. My hope as an individual at this stage of my life is much stronger than my faith. In that way I differ from my ancestors. They were true believers, right on down to me.
 

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satanism?

On a more serious note, I'm trying my friend, but the practice of Islam is far too perverse as it's practiced by far too many Muslims to make any assumption that it has "good intentions"

Killing infidels?
non-acceptance of other religions
stoning people to death
hanging teenage girls because they were alone in a car with there cousins
killing daughters because they disgraced the family
abusing their wives, just because they can
not allowing females to become educated
Sharia Law

Iraq, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, the Taliban, Muslim Brotherhood, PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah, al-Q.......................?

how can we pretend there's nothing wrong with this religion?

Let's not forget:

female genital mutilation
incest is accepted and pollutes the gene pool generation after generation
killing gays
etc
etc
etc
etc
 

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