I'm in the military and retire in about a year and a half. I get to work at 0645 and leave at 1500 (3pm to the lay person). In my younger years no way in hell I would have done that....now, IDGAF anymore! My boss is cool and has no problem with it. If there's a deadline on a project I may work late, but I manage my day really well.
That list is comical, but I do believe family and friends are important. If you work somewhere that is salaried you may have to stick around more than 40 hours/week. I do think millineals have a skewed view of reality and many are in for...or are having a reality check. I have nieces and a son who are millinials and I shake my head at some of the non-sense I see from them. But, most of the active duty military are millenials nowadays...
That list is comical, but I do believe family and friends are important. If you work somewhere that is salaried you may have to stick around more than 40 hours/week. I do think millineals have a skewed view of reality and many are in for...or are having a reality check. I have nieces and a son who are millinials and I shake my head at some of the non-sense I see from them. But, most of the active duty military are millenials nowadays...
I'm glad this transformed into a civil and realistic conversation, instead of this "let's bash Millennials" nonsense. Clearly work/life balance is an issue for many. Both myself and my wife are also at a "we don't care" stage of our life. We could retire and live frugally if we needed to. But neither of us is going to put up with too much on any job or a boss that's a jerk. It's a nice place to be. I like having the ability to say "take this job and shove it" and not be financially concerned about it.
Seriously?
You are never really "off work" today. Especially if you want to be successful. I answer work emails seven days week and all times throughout the day and night.
Same when I'm on vacation, including fielding work calls
Like another poster said, that's the price if you want high level success.
And of course, that leads to the question...what defines success?
For some, that may mean making a boatload of money. For others, it's making what they need to live frugally so then can make time for other things that they consider more valuable than the almighty buck (i.e. more family time, health and wellness, etc.). That's a personal decision. I don't think it's anyone's place to be judgemental (and never understood the need to bash). If someone wants to work 60-70 hour weeks doing a corporate grind, more power to them. On the other hand, if someone is content with the amount of money they make on a job that is less stressful and less hours to take advantage of other things, more power to them also.
And that's fine. I think we all know of people like that. I just get tired of seeing groups being painted with a broad brush. This is in no way isolated to just Millennials. I can show you examples of my son and many of his friends that don't have this "entitlement" mentality that I hear bandied about all the time. One went into the army and is an electrician apprentice right now. The other is working very long hours in a senior position with a private company. Let's not pigeonhole groups.
I know plenty of people in their 20's and 30's who are really working hard. They keep this up, they'll be "sitting prettier" in the future.
I also plenty of people in their 40's and 50's who are clock watchers, lazy at their jobs, and then complain about that they dont make enough or complain that this person has nicer things.
I am not that much older than millenials but i do see that many of them have different attitudes and mindframes. They still depend on "mommy and daddy" in many many ways. I have heard stories where their parents would come with them to job interviews. I've seen many times where they have no respect for other people's time (during business hours), and they'll feel like that they are the only person that matters.
I have had jobs (some i liked, some i didnt) with tough bosses who would kick my ass and would make me tougher and better at my job (i feel it paid off). Its very hard to yell at a milenial these days without them crying. We have to be more sensitive and its scary.
I even notice the trickle down effect in schools these days
