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But to be clear I respect those who swear BY the DRF product. each to his own. part of what makes it a great game different styles and methods of handicapping.
 

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So back to why I came on this forum about 2 years ago. I was just tired of seeing all regular players struggle and seeing their patterns I wanted to give everything I had in my soul to try and get them to be AWAKE so to speak. But naturally I am going to run into alot of resistance . why?? because when you see
someone like me and you have been around the game along time your not going to like what I am going to say and what I am going to come at you with. So naturally the walls come up and one has have to use their instincts, and ask is this guy is for real or a complete loser who is looking for some attention.
I have found in my time around the business that the hardest people to convince are the guys that have been around the longest. They are set in their ways . But the best part is they will respect the "andy serlings " of the world and call him an all around complete handicapper.
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Let me repeat this over and over and over . KNOWLEDGE OF THIS GAME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SUCCESS NOTHING!!! . everyone on here has a deep knowledge of the game. But I can tell u in less than 24 hours who is false and who carries alot more insight .

And all of this has nothing to do with making money.

PLAYING VS MONEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT ANIMALS
 

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OK get your take. Andy Serling is a businessman not a Handicapper IMO. He is an advocate for DRF and NYRA. agreed. what do you mean by Playing vs. Money are different animals? most of us here on the RX I would consider Players. not for sure money makers. I know I am not. I am just an novice overall. Guys like you and Prof are the most experienced in knowing the ins and outs of the game.
 

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Making money is boring !!! has nothing to do with finding longshots , just finding the right horses.

Playing is finding valuable opportunities of finding longshots that could produce mini or long term scores

apples and oranges .

here is the kicker the racing gods have fooled everyone into believing that making money can only be done by (playing) or finding value
so to speak. Couldn't be further from the truth
 

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Making money is boring !!! has nothing to do with finding longshots , just finding the right horses.

Playing is finding valuable opportunities of finding longshots that could produce mini or long term scores

apples and oranges .

here is the kicker the racing gods have fooled everyone into believing that making money can only be done by (playing) or finding value
so to speak. Couldn't be further from the truth

can you expedite on that. interesting take for sure.
 

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So why I make the big bets , why I structure everything in an intentional way is to shock the viewers into knowing not guessing but knowing, that there is something different here that they should be paying attention to or else they will fall back into their patterns for life and never get out .
Jack Its not that I am the Big shot and you are a small player. no not at all.

But let me be very clear , I hold myself back on a daily basis because I haven't found the ultimate way of communicating across to all of you guys what I truly know and how effective it is . The only way I know is to produce some of my ultimate stuff on here and record everything good or bad so viewers could truly see whats real and what's false .

So here is the ultimate question . If you know the answer and you live in the parimutuel world. How do help people accomplish their goals while maintaining your EDGE . If i had that answer I would have done it long ago.

but how does one do it ??
 

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So why I make the big bets , why I structure everything in an intentional way is to shock the viewers into knowing not guessing but knowing, that there is something different here that they should be paying attention to or else they will fall back into their patterns for life and never get out .
Jack Its not that I am the Big shot and you are a small player. no not at all.

But let me be very clear , I hold myself back on a daily basis because I haven't found the ultimate way of communicating across to all of you guys what I truly know and how effective it is . The only way I know is to produce some of my ultimate stuff on here and record everything good or bad so viewers could truly see whats real and what's false .

So here is the ultimate question . If you know the answer and you live in the parimutuel world. How do help people accomplish their goals while maintaining your EDGE . If i had that answer I would have done it long ago.

but how does one do it ??

yeah tough question. Let's be real. You are in a different world than most of us players here. We play for entertainment purposes and hopefully to make a score or 2. you live and breathe the GAME. Big difference. Guess the way you post right before they jump helps mitigate the damage in a pari mutuel world. I appreciate your insights YES. But quite frankly your methods are over my head but I do try and understand.
 

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can you expedite on that. interesting take for sure.


Sure but for it to be effective you need to have every source available to you and that is not going to happen any time soon.
But I will give it a go
we are brainwashed into looking for something that has value attached to it . Most players cannot function without a morning line . But the horses don't have morning lines . So like i said countless times before in order (imo) to be succesfull you have to begin to look at the program or racing form without the morning lines !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There lies a different awareness without it , things seen and unseen come to light right away .
Next you have to ask yourself ,if this horse is totally beatable (from my point of view ) than why is he 6/5 on the tote ??
means you are missing crucial info as we have established that the public is the ultimate judge , all things being equal

remember you are working with a disadvantage at all times so finding something that looks good value from what you know vs what the public knows
is completely , completely false because you are missing the crucial information , make sense ??
 

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Yeah makes some sense. and agreed I would like to cap a race without looking at the morning lines. I skews things for sure. Overall I do think I would be a better capper without a ML Attached.
 

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[/B]yeah tough question. Let's be real. You are in a different world than most of us players here. We play for entertainment purposes and hopefully to make a score or 2. you live and breathe the GAME. Big difference. Guess the way you post right before they jump helps mitigate the damage in a pari mutuel world. I appreciate your insights YES. But quite frankly your methods are over my head but I do try and understand.


Jack if I could trust everyone here don't you think I would just put it all out here . OF course I would But how many people do you think would follow my guidelines. 0000000000000 no one . The code of honour has left the building long ago . I still believe in people , but these days everyone is looking to create their own models and websites that mimic serious players . Look at what happened to the prof a year ago.

So what do I do , I continue to look like a lunatic and provide the best I can.

But do not make the mistake of thinking that players will respect me more or less depending on what I put up on here. They have made up their minds long time ago. Truth never goes away and that's all that should do the talking but my hands are a bit tied here , so the game continues .

ALL i can say is I am all about the player no matter what they may think. If one does the real work they will know
 

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I do believe you have the interest in the player and little guy in mind. But you have to understand that for the small time player to grasp what you are saying is a big leap of faith with all the propaganda out there and the fact that we horse players are exposed to it on a daily basis. You have cut thru the Bullshit and are trying to help. I see your point. THX
 

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I loved the idea of what you guys started early in the year because I thought wow finally , these regular guys are going to give it all they got and lay it down.
Now that is what i respect because over the whole year you had 5 or six guys showing their ups and downs and bankrolls and most important most would reach the 1500 race sample which one cannot fake. Then the viewers would get a general idea of what to expect because the guys on here have great knowledge but they are not pros . I can guarantee you that most of them would out do the analysts for most racing publications. But unfortunately that disintergrated and that was that . I am fully aware of the energy it takes to continue and to have your hear cut out in front of you while hundreds look on.

But its honest and real
 

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I loved the idea of what you guys started early in the year because I thought wow finally , these regular guys are going to give it all they got and lay it down.
Now that is what i respect because over the whole year you had 5 or six guys showing their ups and downs and bankrolls and most important most would reach the 1500 race sample which one cannot fake. Then the viewers would get a general idea of what to expect because the guys on here have great knowledge but they are not pros . I can guarantee you that most of them would out do the analysts for most racing publications. But unfortunately that disintergrated and that was that . I am fully aware of the energy it takes to continue and to have your hear cut out in front of you while hundreds look on.

But its honest and real
yeah MY Bad. I got burned out after running the tally for 3 months and was shitting the bed and needed a reset. I am an action player and the action without Parameters got the best of me. I am much more comfortable in the contest we are doing now especially with limited tracks. and also wagering limits
 

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I do believe you have the interest in the player and little guy in mind. But you have to understand that for the small time player to grasp what you are saying is a big leap of faith with all the propaganda out there and the fact that we horse players are exposed to it on a daily basis. You have cut thru the Bullshit and are trying to help. I see your point. THX


I understand completely and I don't hold it against anyone for thinking that I am a fake or crazy like hoss said. I get it really . But its really simple jack, just try and see beyond what i am putting on the paper and use your instinct . You will know . I can promise you that
 

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yeah MY Bad. I got burned out after running the tally for 3 months and was shitting the bed and needed a reset. I am an action player and the action without Parameters got the best of me. I am much more comfortable in the contest we are doing now especially with limited tracks. and also wagering limits


I get it really
 

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I understand completely and I don't hold it against anyone for thinking that I am a fake or crazy like hoss said. I get it really . But its really simple jack, just try and see beyond what i am putting on the paper and use your instinct . You will know . I can promise you that
you have opened my eyes to some things tonight that I never really considered. I guess I had an idea about the propaganda but never put 2 and 2 together. thx.
 

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Anyway jack I will continue to be at my best as time permits . I will always lay it down honestly . You guys can question it anyway you want .
and hopefully I will find openings so I can communicate it better as to improve your everyone's game as well while maintaing the edge .

have a great night and good day today for you good job

we will continue it tomorrow and if you could find a solution to the above problem , even if its 20 guys that benefit let me know .

and we will all kill em

How does one give away the answer while maintaining the edge and trust that the info won't get spread all over ??
put your heads together
 

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OK YES Do not know if there is a good answer to your question. I guess keep plugging away as we enjoy your threads. and the insight. that you can provide. Thx again and have a good night.
 

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OK YES Do not know if there is a good answer to your question. I guess keep plugging away as we enjoy your threads. and the insight. that you can provide. Thx again and have a good night.

No Jack thank you really Thank you
 

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