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Listen guys,
I'm not a capper. I'm a player just like the rest of you.
I bought this system from a guy off of ebay. I shared it with you all on here because this is what we do on this forum, well, atleast some of us.
Anyhow, when I posted the system, I said the system was perfect with teams over a .500 record. Now with that said, I assume people understand nhl records. 19-15-8 is an under .500 records, atleast that is the way I read it. To be honest, I don't know the first thing about hockey. I can't tell you all the positions, and I know it's one of the most boring sports to watch, but I know that from my point of view, the record is pretty obvious. 19 wins, 15 losses, 8 overtime losses and I'm pretty sure I indicated included overtime losses, but I'll have to relook back thru the threads. If I didn't sorry, like I said, I'm not a capper, none of you paid me a dime, but still I hope you had some luck playing this system.
But to compare a contributor like me to John Morrison is wrong. The record for Boston was obviously under .500 before the series started and I would like for someone to prove to me that it wasn't. Yea, maybe only 1 game, but that is still under .500.
Now if your like me, I played the series anyways cause it was close and I lost, big freikin deal, look at all the games I won, besides I will just win it back in the next series starting today with the Flyers.

You could not pay me to be a capper, so please understand, this was just a contribution bought by me, shared with all of you.

Striker. I've been posting this system's plays when they come up too. But I only post the C-Bets on here just because some people get real angry and confused by non-JM systems... The .500 system is cash money.
 

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Listen guys,
I'm not a capper. I'm a player just like the rest of you.
I bought this system from a guy off of ebay. I shared it with you all on here because this is what we do on this forum, well, atleast some of us.
Anyhow, when I posted the system, I said the system was perfect with teams over a .500 record. Now with that said, I assume people understand nhl records. 19-15-8 is an under .500 records, atleast that is the way I read it. To be honest, I don't know the first thing about hockey. I can't tell you all the positions, and I know it's one of the most boring sports to watch, but I know that from my point of view, the record is pretty obvious. 19 wins, 15 losses, 8 overtime losses and I'm pretty sure I indicated included overtime losses, but I'll have to relook back thru the threads. If I didn't sorry, like I said, I'm not a capper, none of you paid me a dime, but still I hope you had some luck playing this system.
But to compare a contributor like me to John Morrison is wrong. The record for Boston was obviously under .500 before the series started and I would like for someone to prove to me that it wasn't. Yea, maybe only 1 game, but that is still under .500.
Now if your like me, I played the series anyways cause it was close and I lost, big freikin deal, look at all the games I won, besides I will just win it back in the next series starting today with the Flyers.

You could not pay me to be a capper, so please understand, this was just a contribution bought by me, shared with all of you.

There are 3 teams that have lost 3 straight that are above .500 including overtime losses. Buffalo, Nashville, and Calgary. Buffalo and Nashville's next games are on the road, while Calgary is at home.

Now, what are the rules? Is it home games only with some kind of number of consecutive games at home, or can it be any game home or away? Please state the rules as it would help me a lot.
 

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Thanks for the Info.

<STYLE></STYLE>Morrison NBA v3.0:

NBA V3.0 is simply all road games against teams within the same conference.

There are 29 V3.0 games remaining this season and the next series is Miami 1/27 versus Toronto.

Appreciate the post LVSP. BOL!
 

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Off topic a little, but does anyone have the James Jones Total Edge System?? I'm very curious to what the system is

I'm pretty sure James Jones is John Morrison anyway!
 

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I play this, morrisons nba, mlb, and I also play SPORTSBETTINGprofessor which is a system like morrisons but you don't have to buy points which is really cool. He has a few more losses than morrison, but your only at -110 most of the time unless you buy a half here and there.
I'll post the play today, but can't guarantee that I'll be able to post it everyday as I travel a lot.
If I had one contact that was on here frequently, I could email it to them when I travel and they could post it.
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I have followed and tweaked up the hockey system you supplied us. Being a seasoned gambler in Vegas the rule of thumb is get the best value for your dollar and I don't think risking a 3 game chase on -200 lines is the best bang for your buck. What I have done is bet the games on the puck line unless they were dogs, which I would bet the money line at + money. Currently it is 25-7 since Dec 26th when you supplied us the spreadsheet. That is damn good with the 25 wins at an average of +175 and the 7 losses only costing me no more then 2.5 units per chase. There is also little stress because even if you get to a C bet, you are usually only risking 1.5 units not the 6-8 units by betting the money line. I will continue to bet this the remainder of the season and thank you for the system!!!

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that's awesome bro, now that's the kind of advice we can use. Thanks for sharing your strategy. I think I will run it thru the rest of the year as well.
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I base my win/lose on the -1.5 goals system. Philly lost the system but one the game. My loss. Have Pitt on B and Flordia on A. Once again NO STRESS. Not a lot of people realize that goalie matchups are key. If there is a goalie matchup like Calgary last night, kick up your unit bet to cover a loss. I have also been on San Jose the last month and the next month as well on the puck line. They are just plain out good and beating teams by 2+ goals consistantly. Chasing + lines is a good way to win $$$ with little risk. If you lose 2.5 units on a 3 game series you laugh it off, if you lose 18-20 units you chase other bets and try to recoup your loss which leads to more losses and that is where people lose at gambling. The Morrison system is a high risk little reward system. Why would anyone in there right mind lay 18-1 on a c bet? I read some post by people who say if they lose it will cripple them. Then why bet it? What people also don't realize with the Morrison system is you are only to bet 6% of your bankroll on any bet. Lets base this on a $10 player. First game you lose at -250 line. you are down 25. next bet is 25 +10, on another -250 line is 87.50 to win 10. If you lose then you are at $112.50 + 10 for a c bet at 122.50 on a conservative -200 puckline would be $245 to win $10 (24.5 to 1 odds). To make this bet you have to have a bankroll of $4,050 according to him. I hope this helps out people and gets them to betting to have fun and within there means. This system will NOT make you a million nore will I ever claim they it is 40-0 because it is not. What I will tell you is that betting the puck line system will eliminate most stress you have with gambling but still give you the high of gambling. I hope this is informative and best of luck to everyone.
 

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Did anyone do a cross check on the Morrison NHL just by betting the money line?
 

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I base my win/lose on the -1.5 goals system. Philly lost the system but one the game. My loss. Have Pitt on B and Flordia on A. Once again NO STRESS. Not a lot of people realize that goalie matchups are key. If there is a goalie matchup like Calgary last night, kick up your unit bet to cover a loss. I have also been on San Jose the last month and the next month as well on the puck line. They are just plain out good and beating teams by 2+ goals consistantly. Chasing + lines is a good way to win $$$ with little risk. If you lose 2.5 units on a 3 game series you laugh it off, if you lose 18-20 units you chase other bets and try to recoup your loss which leads to more losses and that is where people lose at gambling. The Morrison system is a high risk little reward system. Why would anyone in there right mind lay 18-1 on a c bet? I read some post by people who say if they lose it will cripple them. Then why bet it? What people also don't realize with the Morrison system is you are only to bet 6% of your bankroll on any bet. Lets base this on a $10 player. First game you lose at -250 line. you are down 25. next bet is 25 +10, on another -250 line is 87.50 to win 10. If you lose then you are at $112.50 + 10 for a c bet at 122.50 on a conservative -200 puckline would be $245 to win $10 (24.5 to 1 odds). To make this bet you have to have a bankroll of $4,050 according to him. I hope this helps out people and gets them to betting to have fun and within there means. This system will NOT make you a million nore will I ever claim they it is 40-0 because it is not. What I will tell you is that betting the puck line system will eliminate most stress you have with gambling but still give you the high of gambling. I hope this is informative and best of luck to everyone.

I am still a little confused...If the team you are betting on -1.5 wins the game 4-3, you lose the bet, but do you keep the series going until they win a game by two goals? or is that a loss and you move on to the next series? Thanks and BOL to everyone!!
 

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Harvard Stat Boy

Has anyone ever done research on Harvard Stat Boy, the person that supposedly Morrison (by the way that is not his name) stole the system from. I have been watching his system and it seems to be much better. It's a two game chase and his stats for this year are:

NBAOver/Under went 224-36 the past 2 years which if you really break it down it's really 224-108 a 67% winning percentage since each loss counts as 3 units lost. This Year the Over/Under system is 41-7! You do the math.

Thoughts please....:think2:
 

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Has anyone ever done research on Harvard Stat Boy, the person that supposedly Morrison (by the way that is not his name) stole the system from. I have been watching his system and it seems to be much better. It's a two game chase and his stats for this year are:

NBAOver/Under went 224-36 the past 2 years which if you really break it down it's really 224-108 a 67% winning percentage since each loss counts as 3 units lost. This Year the Over/Under system is 41-7! You do the math.

Thoughts please....:think2:

He is selling it (the plays) on Ebay. You pay if you win which means you don't get the system-right? Anyone can flip a coin and if the play wins- you collect about half the time. Pay after you win is a common scam used by many so-called handicappers.
 

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I am in the process of backdating Morrison's claims for the NFL and the NBA for the past decade. I will be posting those results once the data is quantified.

Frankly, I'm always skeptical of systems. 97% sounds great, but the methodology behind it is suspect to be frank. Case in point:

Ace-Ace is basically testing out his own progression in a thread where he essentially has a 7-play Martingale system to win at -110 odds. Now, the odds that one will lose 7 times in a row, randomly, is about .78% (78 hundredths of one percent), or about one run of such numbers in 128 tries, which is over 99%.

So Ace-Ace's system has been, so far, twice as effective as Morrison's claim.

But all of this is kind of nonsensical, to a degree. The real issue is that Martingale systems only work when one can risk a relatively large bankroll for small, consistent gains. The funny part is that I create software to help the system player, the true winning handicapper will not win using a system, but rather a method which involves correlating far more factors than can be produced by data mining alone. And Morrison does not do that (other than simple bet negators if "the team's best player or pitcher is injured," which should already have been covered in Betting 101).

Actually, give me three weeks. I may even do MLB first in time for Spring Training.
 

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I am in the process of backdating Morrison's claims for the NFL and the NBA for the past decade. I will be posting those results once the data is quantified.

Frankly, I'm always skeptical of systems. 97% sounds great, but the methodology behind it is suspect to be frank. Case in point:

Ace-Ace is basically testing out his own progression in a thread where he essentially has a 7-play Martingale system to win at -110 odds. Now, the odds that one will lose 7 times in a row, randomly, is about .78% (78 hundredths of one percent), or about one run of such numbers in 128 tries, which is over 99%.

So Ace-Ace's system has been, so far, twice as effective as Morrison's claim.

But all of this is kind of nonsensical, to a degree. The real issue is that Martingale systems only work when one can risk a relatively large bankroll for small, consistent gains. The funny part is that I create software to help the system player, the true winning handicapper will not win using a system, but rather a method which involves correlating far more factors than can be produced by data mining alone. And Morrison does not do that (other than simple bet negators if "the team's best player or pitcher is injured," which should already have been covered in Betting 101).

Actually, give me three weeks. I may even do MLB first in time for Spring Training.

The NFL does not back test well, there are quite a few losses! NBA in 06-07 and 05-06 was pretty shockin as well! I'm wondering when these systems are going to come back to bite ppl in the ass, cus the last 3 years have been alright, but before then sketchy!
 

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has anyone backtested reverse morrison on the 'b' and 'c' games after an 'a' bet win?
 

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Hi Everyone

New to this Forum but have been doing bets on and off with the John Morisson System plays only, made a bit of money but only started with $150 at $10 a bet.

Im investing $1500 in the same system to bet with, and want to raise my bets from $10 now to higher amount,

Can someone please give me some advice on what would be a good figure to start betting at this higher Bankroll amount.

I appretiate there are alot of ppl on here with alot of experience with the Morrison system and would be greatfull for any feedback.

BTW i'm betting on NBA and did some MLB bets last year.

Thanks :)
 

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Hi Everyone

New to this Forum but have been doing bets on and off with the John Morisson System plays only, made a bit of money but only started with $150 at $10 a bet.

Im investing $1500 in the same system to bet with, and want to raise my bets from $10 now to higher amount,

Can someone please give me some advice on what would be a good figure to start betting at this higher Bankroll amount.

I appretiate there are alot of ppl on here with alot of experience with the Morrison system and would be greatfull for any feedback.


BTW i'm betting on NBA and did some MLB bets last year.

Thanks :)


Well if you plan to follow the system plus buying the 3 points i would suggest 2-5% of your bankroll. So if you had 1500 to play with then the beginning bet would be $75.

I personally use 10% of my bankroll but i use my filters with the JM system as well as i follow other handicappers.
 

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Hi Everyone

New to this Forum but have been doing bets on and off with the John Morisson System plays only, made a bit of money but only started with $150 at $10 a bet.

Im investing $1500 in the same system to bet with, and want to raise my bets from $10 now to higher amount,

Can someone please give me some advice on what would be a good figure to start betting at this higher Bankroll amount.

I appretiate there are alot of ppl on here with alot of experience with the Morrison system and would be greatfull for any feedback.

BTW i'm betting on NBA and did some MLB bets last year.

Thanks :)

I'd say 1-2%. Anything higher chasing 3 games when buying 3 points could be seriously costly when a loss occurs! If you bet for 2% profit on a $1500 bankroll ($30) then this is roughly what you'll have to fork out based on odds of 1.55...

A bet = $55 to win $85 (85-55 = 30)
B bet = $155 to win $240 (240-155-55 = 30)
C bet = $437 to win $677 (677-437-155-55 = 30)

Your risking $647 over 3 bets betting for 2% profit which works out at 43% of your bankroll. Thats just for 2%. 5% would wipe out your whole balance with a loss
 

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Dude I absolutely love it!...went and backtested a little...Wash +51.18 units, NJ +17, Chicago +19.96...didn't do SJ yet but skimmed over their season and they are def up a ton of units.

My question to you is this...how long do you wait into the season before you start playing?...I mean right now it's obviously easy from my perspective to look at the stats and figure out who to play on and play against.

But before the season started, I would've definitely added Boston, Detroit, and Pitt in with Chi, SJ, Was, and NJ...and while Pitt has only lost about 8 units, Boston and Detroit have combined to lose over 53.

I guess the answer would be to just use your own discretion...but would just like to see if you had anything to add.

Again man...I truly appreciate this info and can totally see how this can be extremely profitable...also, have you used this method with any other sports?

-John

I wait about three weeks to a month into the season. You want to play on the top 3 NHL teams and against the bottom one or two. Just use goals scored-goals allowed and get your data (also available on many sites). This does not mean Pittsburgh (for example) will not be profitable or others- but if you look at the top AMOV teams they generally have the best winning percentage.

This "system" is logical unlike many others (Morrison road trips, etc.). You should rotate out teams like Buffalo frequently who had a high AMOV but recent losses have changed that. Basically you are playing on the best teams most of the time. Since in money line sports all you have to do is win to cash, you are playing on the teams most likely to win. The 4-2-1 progression (not a chase) is highly profitable because of the winning streaks (and lack of losses) by the top tier teams.

And yes, you can use it in other sports. Play only after a win for the top teams and only after a loss for the bottom teams. When the NHL resumes after the break, observe that we would now wait for Washington to win a game since their last game was a loss, and wait for Edmonton to lose a game to bet against since their last game was a win. It is money in the bank most of the time.

Best,

Michael G.
 

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